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This was why the Extended Cut actually made the Beam run worse. I didn't need an explanation as to how people got onto the Normandy. What would have been better would have been correcting it so that those you brought with you died, period. But no, they gave into the whining. The original ending beam run was very well done. The Deus Ex ending really sucked, made no sense to the rest of the story, and because of it, we're in Andromeda.

 

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I also like how the Asari adapt human weaponry in ME3. Kassa Fabrications must have one hell of a marketing campaign.



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Did anyone try to make contact with anyone on the Citadel when it was moved to Earth? Or at least try to contact someone in C-sec, perhaps Bailey, to see if they can open the arms?

 

Is there a reason to have the Hades Cannon in London? A destroyer can do the same thing and most likely wouldn't be destroyed by a single shot from the cain



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My guess is that when the Citadel was closed it acted like a Faraday box.

 

Hades Cannons took fewer processed organics to make than a destroyer and probably weren't intelligent.



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After the crucible fires its space magic at the first relay, that relay will fire the space magic to another relay. When the scene shows the galaxy, the beam of magic is shown being fired to other relays, but it also shows a couple of the relays firing the beam of magic in two different directions at the same time. How is that possible?

 

https://youtu.be/jsNjas1Ne2w?t=3m30s



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If guns in the series have basically unlimited ammo, and just need reloading of thermal clips, what are the shells coming out of the N7 Typhoon? 



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After the arms to the Citadel are opened, Hackett is heard saying Shepard. Shepard's response is 'what do you need me to do?'. Don't know why he/she would say that. Why not have Shepard say. "I read you Admiral' or 'Shepard here'?



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After the arms to the Citadel are opened, Hackett is heard saying Shepard. Shepard's response is 'what do you need me to do?'. Don't know why he/she would say that. Why not have Shepard say. "I read you Admiral' or 'Shepard here'?

 

I guess it's just one of those things when you're hurt and speaking out of exhaustion or something.. not thinking straight right away.

 

Or something. It works for me, I guess.



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I guess it's just one of those things when you're hurt and speaking out of exhaustion or something.. not thinking straight right away.

 

Or something. It works for me, I guess.

Yet Shepard was able to convince TIM to shoot himself a few moments ago.



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Yet Shepard was able to convince TIM to shoot himself a few moments ago.

 

Fair point. It's worth questioning when you put it all together.

 

I suppose it could be a lull, from getting up, after losing more blood or something. There's a small amount there where it seems Shep's just about had it... Then they regain their composure again before the Catalyst scene.



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I thought Shepard was pretty coherent with Hackett, compared to what s/he babbled in the conversation that followed. ;)



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In ME1, everyone calls the Citadel, Citadel. Sovereign calls it Citadel. The damaged VI on Ilos says Citadel. Vigil says Citadel

 

In ME2, everyone calls the space station Citadel

 

At the beginning of ME3, Anderson says Citadel. When talking with the council, the word catalyst is mentioned. Its a part that is missing that would complete the device. After the coup the word catalyst in mentioned again. Everyone is still calling the Citadel, Citadel. Even Javik refers the Citadel as Citadel. On Thessia, Vendetta mentions catalyst as well as Shepard.

 

On Chronos Vendetta says in your cycle its known as the Citadel. Interesting. So if Vendetta calls the Citadel catalyst, why didn't Javik and the two VI's on Ilos call it catalyst?

 

Turns out Vendetta was incorrect. The catalyst is the leader of the reapers. But Leviathan calls it the intelligence. Why did the catalyst say its the catalyst when Leviathan calls it the intelligence?  Did the Insuannon, the species before the Protheans, call the citadel something different?

 

If previous cycles were able to translate the plans to build the device, wouldn't they of been able to know the Citadel is needed for the device to work? Or was it the Protheans who decided to call the Citadel  something different as a safety precaution? Or maybe not all Protheans called it catalyst, but Citadel and it was the group that was building the crucible that called the Citadel, catalyst. Vendetta did say it was programmed not to say what the catalyst is until the Crucible is completed.


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After the crucible fires its space magic at the first relay, that relay will fire the space magic to another relay. When the scene shows the galaxy, the beam of magic is shown being fired to other relays, but it also shows a couple of the relays firing the beam of magic in two different directions at the same time. How is that possible?

 

https://youtu.be/jsNjas1Ne2w?t=3m30s

 

There are 2 kinds of Mass Relays. One for long distance that are 1 to 1 relays. And smaller ones that go shorter distance and can connect to multiple ones.


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There are 2 kinds of Mass Relays. One for long distance that are 1 to 1 relays. And smaller ones that go shorter distance and can connect to multiple ones.

So the small one can send the space magic in two different directions at the same time? How would that work sending two ships in two different directions at the same time? Or would it send one ship to this location and then send the other ship to another location a short time later? I can believe that. I can't believe it can send something in two different directions at the same time



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The energy over charges the mass relay and has it fire off in all directions it is capable of. If it tried that with a ship it would rip it in two. But this is a mass of energy Different rules apply. Each time the pulse hits a mass relay the relay over charges releasing a wave of energy into area of effect and fires off another pulse to the next relay(s) it is linked to.



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Is there anything supporting that?



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Is there anything supporting that?

 

Yes. When the curcible fires and hits the Charon relay you see the gyroscope like thing speed up as it charges. When it fires off the energy to the relay it is linked to it releases the wave of energy that destroys, controls or synthesis the Sol system.

 

Charon relay I think is a primary relay which is a 1 to 1 connection. Like a one stop flight.

 

Secondary relays are multi connections to other secondary. The distance is shorter so the energy burst can be shot to all connected secondary relays at once.

 

The reason no one has ever done that before with a ship is because it would tear the ship in to peices killing everyone on it. Much in the same way no had destoryed a Mass Relay before either because of the possible consequences as we learn with ME2 DLC. Or the simple fact it would render that area of the galaxy all but inaccessible to standard FTL drives. . Rather then it being a physical impossibility to do so.



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A word on the rachni:

 

So, in ME1, we have the whole deal with the rachni that go mad, despite the fact that the queen is actually not hostile herself. The reasoning here is that the queen had no control over her offspring because the Binary Helix guys (or Cerberus in the case of that side mission) removed them from the queen, so she couldn't "sing" to them anymore (i.e. telepathically educate them or whatever).

 

However, in Leviathan, during a conversation in Dr. Brysons lab, Ann Bryson mentions that the rachni queens do posses a biological equivalent of quantum entaglement communicators (however that would look like) in order to control the swarm at long range. Why didn't the queen use that in ME1?

 

I do wonder why the writers felt it necessary to put this weird sentence into Ann Bryson's mouth in the first place. Until then, I was simply under the impression that rachni queens had to be close by in order to directly control anyone. We never see a rachni remote controlled from a long distance. The only one who comes close is that Asari on Illium during ME2 but she is not controlled by the queen at that moment, she is just repeating a "pre-recorded" message to Shepard, as you can find out during the conversation.

 

I guess it is possible that the rachni queen needs some sort of receiver to long-range-control the swarm (kind of like the Overmind needed the cerebrats in Starcraft). This would kinda make sense, given that at least the technological QECs are strictly point-to-point anyway. However, we never heard of such a receiver and frankly that whole tidbit in Bryson's lab was just strange.


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Could be the young are not born with said ability to communicate over distances. And it is something that is developed as they grow. In normal circumstances babies would be kept  with/near the queen till maturity anyways. Premature removal from queen results in growth errors I guess for lack of better word.

 

I mean if you took a newborn away and kept it in a silent room. It wouldn't be able to communicate very well with other humans by the time they were teenagers.



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My guess is that when the Citadel was closed it acted like a Faraday box.

 

There's at least one QEC device on the Citadel twinned to one on the Normandy.  The Council was using it to keep appraised of Shepard's activities.  Such devices are absolutely secure and can't be jammed "conventionally"


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A word on the rachni:

 

So, in ME1, we have the whole deal with the rachni that go mad, despite the fact that the queen is actually not hostile herself. The reasoning here is that the queen had no control over her offspring because the Binary Helix guys (or Cerberus in the case of that side mission) removed them from the queen, so she couldn't "sing" to them anymore (i.e. telepathically educate them or whatever).

 

However, in Leviathan, during a conversation in Dr. Brysons lab, Ann Bryson mentions that the rachni queens do posses a biological equivalent of quantum entaglement communicators (however that would look like) in order to control the swarm at long range. Why didn't the queen use that in ME1?

 

I do wonder why the writers felt it necessary to put this weird sentence into Ann Bryson's mouth in the first place. Until then, I was simply under the impression that rachni queens had to be close by in order to directly control anyone. We never see a rachni remote controlled from a long distance. The only one who comes close is that Asari on Illium during ME2 but she is not controlled by the queen at that moment, she is just repeating a "pre-recorded" message to Shepard, as you can find out during the conversation.

 

I guess it is possible that the rachni queen needs some sort of receiver to long-range-control the swarm (kind of like the Overmind needed the cerebrats in Starcraft). This would kinda make sense, given that at least the technological QECs are strictly point-to-point anyway. However, we never heard of such a receiver and frankly that whole tidbit in Bryson's lab was just strange.

I don't take anything said about the rachni  in Leviathan as given.  Notice that data about them is explicitly irrelevant to finding the Leviathan.  Thus I take it as being free to call it into question.



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i thought the m-7 & m-8 were human designed weapons, with the m-8 being licensed to EC? or do i have that wrong?


I'm just going to headcanon this myself really. M-whatever is widespread throughout the weapon gallery, and used for actual human creations.

There is no evidence to prove that the M-8 Avenger (which is based on the human made M-7 Lancer) was licensed to Elkoss.

The Elkoss bio data they're a Terminus System based weapon manufacture that basically builds high end affordable knockoffs.

Why the Alliance use a knockoff for their entire army and say....not the N7 Valkyrie, idk.

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I'm just going to headcanon this myself really. M-whatever is widespread throughout the weapon gallery, and used for actual human creations.

There is no evidence to prove that the M-8 Avenger (which is based on the human made M-7 Lancer) was licensed to Elkoss.

The Elkoss bio data they're a Terminus System based weapon manufacture that basically builds high end affordable knockoffs.

Why the Alliance use a knockoff for their entire army and say....not the N7 Valkyrie, idk.

 

You already answered that question.

 

High end affordable.

 

You know like an Apple anything to really any other brand. Does the exact same thing, same quality but is much cheaper.

 

And yes in this case the apple product is the over priced one.



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But the N7 Valkyrie is issued to every Alliance soldier, so barring DLC nonsense, why would the Alliance use the Avenger? I don't think it would be cost or performance, the Valkyrie's bio make it out to be a pretty good rifle.

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But the N7 Valkyrie is issued to every Alliance soldier, so barring DLC nonsense, why would the Alliance use the Avenger? I don't think it would be cost or performance, the Valkyrie's bio make it out to be a pretty good rifle.

 

Well so is the Avenger. Most likely the rapid fire compared to Valkyrie anyways. Is why it is preferred. I've used N7 Valkyrie in game. It is powerful weapon but very slow shot rate. Assuming that isn't just game play mechanics. Faster fire rate of avenger would drop shields quicker.   Which is the entire in game reason for switching from cool down to thermal clips.



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It makes no sense though that terminus produced assault rifle would be the standard issue weapon for all militaries in Citadel space.