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Well so is the Avenger. Most likely the rapid fire compared to Valkyrie anyways. Is why it is preferred. I've used N7 Valkyrie in game. It is powerful weapon but very slow shot rate. Assuming that isn't just game play mechanics. Faster fire rate of avenger would drop shields quicker.   Which is the entire in game reason for switching from cool down to thermal clips.

 

It makes no sense. The Alliance Defense Department would always go with the domestically produced more expensive product. The US Military will always use the $100 toilet seat over the identical $19 toilet seat you can buy at Costco.



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It makes no sense. The Alliance Defense Department would always go with the domestically produced more expensive product. The US Military will always use the $100 toilet seat over the identical $19 toilet seat you can buy at Costco.

Maybe they finally got smarter



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Why don't biotics use shields to boost their defensive ability?

 

ME2 and 3 if you are a soilder, enginner or infiltrator you have a shield bar. If you are Adept, Sentinel or Vanguard you get a barrier bar.  Why couldn't they also use a shield? This would make Asari soilders one of the hardest to kill because not only would you have kinetic barrier to breach but her own biotic barrier.



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Maybe someone said this already but:

Aren't combat powers actually tech powers?
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Why don't biotics use shields to boost their defensive ability?

 

ME2 and 3 if you are a soilder, enginner or infiltrator you have a shield bar. If you are Adept, Sentinel or Vanguard you get a barrier bar.  Why couldn't they also use a shield? This would make Asari soilders one of the hardest to kill because not only would you have kinetic barrier to breach but her own biotic barrier.

 

They didn't do this for the Asari because of game balance and to make humans special. The Asari should have been the most dominant species in the galaxy. They had a massive tech head start. Humans and the rest of the galaxy should be thankful that the Asari Republics were not an expansionist Asari Empire. 



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^Word.

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They didn't do this for the Asari because of game balance and to make humans special. The Asari should have been the most dominant species in the galaxy. They had a massive tech head start. Humans and the rest of the galaxy should be thankful that the Asari Republics were not an expansionist Asari Empire. 

 

Salarians were not that far behind the Asari. What was it only like 300 years give or take between the Asari finding the Cit and the Salarians finding it.



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Salarians were not that far behind the Asari. What was it only like 300 years give or take between the Asari finding the Cit and the Salarians finding it.


300 hundred years is a long time to the salarians though isn't it? That's like 6 generations for them. The asari were there for quite a while as far as they're concerned.

Not that much different for us either. Let's put it into perspective. 300 years ago the age of imperialism was in full swing and the U.S. didn't exist. There was no electricity or even indoor plumbing. Everyone traveled by horse, carriage, or on foot. Nobody brushed their teeth and large portions of the population were illiterate. Diseases were epidemics. I could really go on and on. Just a few centuries and life on earth was vastly different.

That's less than one lifetime for the asari. Probably just one of their aging stages. With their longevity alongside their advanced culture, technology, and innate abilities, i'm surprised they don't run around thinking they're better than everyone else.

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Why don't biotics use shields to boost their defensive ability?

ME2 and 3 if you are a soilder, enginner or infiltrator you have a shield bar. If you are Adept, Sentinel or Vanguard you get a barrier bar. Why couldn't they also use a shield? This would make Asari soilders one of the hardest to kill because not only would you have kinetic barrier to breach but her own biotic barrier.


A krogan biotic would be even tougher to kill.

Not only would he have a shield and a barrier to get past, he'd also have on far heavier armor than anything an asari could get away with, and he has a regenerative ability AND redundant organs! On top of all that, these guys have a blood rage berserker mode that heightens their natural abilities!

Good thing biotic krogan are rare.
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Wasn't Wrex a biotic? Look how easy it was to kill him on Virmire either by Shepard or Ashley. Heck it was easy to kill him on the Citadel in ME3


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Isn't Wrex supposed to be some kind of badass?
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Wasn't Wrex a biotic? Look how easy it was to kill him on Virmire either by Shepard or Ashley. Heck it was easy to kill him on the Citadel in ME3

Yup.  And in Revelation, Saren himself said only a fool would face a krogan biotic one-on-one.


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Yup.  And in Revelation, Saren himself said only a fool would face a krogan biotic one-on-one.

I wouldn't know about that since I've never read the comics. Either way, Wrex was easy to kill.



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I wouldn't know about that since I've never read the comics. Either way, Wrex was easy to kill.

It was a book, actually. About the incident that got Anderson booted from becoming the first human Spectre.

 

And written by Drew Karpyshyn.   <_<  


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On Chronos, Vendetta says the reason why it couldn't tell Shepard that the catalyst was the citadel was because it was feared that if the reapers knew the intended use of the catalyst, they would retake control of it.

 

What does it mean by retake? Vigil says the reapers seized control of the Citadel or as Vendetta calls it, catalyst, when first attacking at the beginning of their cycle. Why would the reapers have to retake it? Were the Protheans able to destroy the reapers that were controlling the Citadel/catalyst? Did Vendetta or at least the group that was constructing the crucible not know the reapers had control of the catalyst/Citadel already?

 

In our cycle, the reapers never had control of the Citadel until late in the game.



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Wow mikefest, you are really nitpicky today, aren't you? :)

I interpreted it this way: The reapers built the citadel and last held it during the prothean cycle. While they did not have it yet in this cycle, if they do conquer it, they will take control of something that they did hold (50.000 years) before. Hence it does make sense to say "retake control".



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On Chronos, Vendetta says the reason why it couldn't tell Shepard that the catalyst was the citadel was because it was feared that if the reapers knew the intended use of the catalyst, they would retake control of it.

 

What does it mean by retake? Vigil says the reapers seized control of the Citadel or as Vendetta calls it, catalyst, when first attacking at the beginning of their cycle. Why would the reapers have to retake it? Were the Protheans able to destroy the reapers that were controlling the Citadel/catalyst? Did Vendetta or at least the group that was constructing the crucible not know the reapers had control of the catalyst/Citadel already?

 

In our cycle, the reapers never had control of the Citadel until late in the game.

Vigil tells us the Citadel fell first.  This is pretty much confirmed by Javik when he says the Citadel fell long before he was born and only stories about it existed in his lifetime.

 

And yet the Catalyst was always there...

 

Just another case of "Who cares what happened before?"



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Wow mikefest, you are really nitpicky today, aren't you? :)

What other times today was I being nitpicky?



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What other times today was I being nitpicky?

 

None, this one was enough for me. :D

That said, if there is any thread for being nitpicky, it's this one.



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On Chronos, Vendetta says the reason why it couldn't tell Shepard that the catalyst was the citadel was because it was feared that if the reapers knew the intended use of the catalyst, they would retake control of it.

 

What does it mean by retake? Vigil says the reapers seized control of the Citadel or as Vendetta calls it, catalyst, when first attacking at the beginning of their cycle. Why would the reapers have to retake it? Were the Protheans able to destroy the reapers that were controlling the Citadel/catalyst? Did Vendetta or at least the group that was constructing the crucible not know the reapers had control of the catalyst/Citadel already?

 

In our cycle, the reapers never had control of the Citadel until late in the game.

 

He is speaking of our time. Since it wasn't under Reaper control yet. A convenient place to end the cycle when they all make their final stand there. Alerting them any point before the crucible was complete would get all spare Reapers to attack it and hold it behind a line of Reapers. Thus dooming that cycle's chance to kill them off.

 

Remember all these Prothean VI's. Particularly the one left on Thessia were left with the specific hope of instructing this cycle to finally stop the Reapers.

 

Which is basically what happens thanks to TIM.



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He is speaking of our time. Since it wasn't under Reaper control yet.

How would it know that the reapers haven't taken the Citadel in our cycle? Did it not know the reapers controlled the Citadel at the beginning of its cycle?

 

Wouldn't it of known the reapers would control the Citadel at the beginning of our cycle just like they did during the prothean cycle? So what would be accomplished by revealing the catalyst after the device is built if the reapers already have control of the Citadel/catalyst? Was it aware of what the scientists on Ilos did? If the VI was aware of that, what guarantee was there that what the scientists did would work? Also if it was aware of what those scientists did, then why is it calling the Citadel, catalyst whereas Vigil refers to it as  Citadel?
 

Remember all these Prothean VI's. Particularly the one left on Thessia were left with the specific hope of instructing this cycle to finally stop the Reapers.

Look how well that worked out thanks to the asari.

Even with the crucible finished and the catalsyt revealed to be the citadel, what's stopping the reapers from controlling the Citadel before the crucible is attached to the citadel/catalsyt?
 



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VI was able to fully deconstruct our language from that of the Prothean.  Virgil was able to listen into our com chatter to form this connection. It is not difficult to say that Vendetta would have similar capability. Which if so it would be fairly obvious the Citadel had not fallen to the Reapers yet.

 

If it can access our coms odds are it can also access the extranet. Particularly on a thriving planet appose to Illos which was abandoned.

 

It isn't just the Asari's fault. Turian, Salarian and even Human are all equally at fault. All groups refused to believe shepard about the Reapers.  Had they in the 2-3 year gap between Shepard going down and the Reapers finally officially invading they could have potentially learned and build the crucible waiting. With the Asari who if they listened to Liara's father. Their only fail on their own. With supplies ready to rebuild the relay should something happen.



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Wasn't Vendetta programmed by the Protheans to say what it did?

 

At least you admit no one, including the ME1 characters, did anything after the SR1 was destroyed to find a way to stop the reapers



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Wasn't Vendetta programmed by the Protheans to say what it did?

 

At least you admit no one, including the ME1 characters, did anything after the SR1 was destroyed to find a way to stop the reapers

 

It was programmed to react to certain events yes. Much like Alivina or what ever the VI on the Citadel was in the first game. How ever at the time of Reaper invasion Asari or any other species were not advanced enough to be able to program a base language. Not even counting the fact that language changes over the years.

 

Ardat-Yakshi as good example said by Samra to be an old Asari dialect.

 

You keep hammering home that the ME1 characters didn't do anything. Yet you seem to miss the simple fact on your way to persecute them. The big important fact you keep overlooking is the fact that no one believed them. Even Shepard didn't get any support only Anderson and Hackett to a lesser extend believed him.  How ever the 3 out of 4 councilors didn't believe him. And the remaining human parliament didn't believe him.

 

Your posts keep having this feel of you pointing at them demanding them to awnser for their inaction and how their inaction caused problems. But you seem to willingly ignore they didn't choose inaction. They simply couldn't act.  Everything was swept under the rug leaving them with nothing to be able to do.

 

There is barely true proof of Protheans in the galaxy. A few odd ruins but about it. Any tech left over is extremely rare. Hence the high penalty for withholding it from the council as well as the security Anderson took when getting the beacon from Eden Prime.  The reapers as the victor of the last cycle would leave nothing behind to show they exist. Their entire strategy is the sudden surprise of their existence. Cripple key points of government quickly before anyone can react then slowly harvest the rest while they are disorganized and unable to react in a unified way anymore.

 

Ane certainly nothing would be left that might show weaknesses or ways to defeat them. They weren't able to harvest so many cycles by being dumb idiots leaving the "how to destroy us" hand book on every planet.



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The Vendetta said it was programmed to not reveal the catalyst until the crucible was built. Meaning that the Protheans programmed it to say what it did. So how would they know the reapers haven't taken control of the Citadel in our cycle?