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[Treacherous J Slither]

100% Galactic readiness - Allied forces are holding their own and winning in key areas.... Conventional Victory is impossible.

Alliance propaganda.

[Pasquale1234]

The first harvest.

Apparently, the intelligence was able to harvest the Leviathan and create Harbinger when:

-- There were not yet any reapers available to conduct the harvest
-- It managed to harvest a species capable of defeating reapers and mind control

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Intelligence: I have come to a conclusion that you are a major part of the problem and need to be ground up in to tiny bits and crammed into thing that looks like you. I instructed your thralls to build a giant blender for this purpose. They also built a giant space ship in which to house this.

 

Leviathan: No. I don't approve of this.

 

Intelligence: Don't you see? If it wasn't for you pandering to these thralls they wouldn't be building these synthetics in the first place. Also you're the problem because you built me. Now swim over there and into the blender.

 

Leviathan: No.

 

Intelligence: You have no choice. I am turning on the blender and soon all of your kind will be sucked through it.

 

* Giant sucking sound *

 

Leviathans: Nooooo!!!!!!

 

The thralls finish building the first reaper.

 

Thralls: We have finished the reaper as you instructed.

 

Intelligence: Good. Harbinger, take your revenge.

 

Also since there was only one reaper created, the first harvest must have taken a very very long time.

 

Come to think of it, the harvests didn't make any sense, did they.

[Laughing_Man]

The first harvest.

Apparently, the intelligence was able to harvest the Leviathan and create Harbinger when:

-- There were not yet any reapers available to conduct the harvest
-- It managed to harvest a species capable of defeating reapers and mind control

 

I'm going to be the devil's advocate here. (because everyone knows that ME canon is the devil...)

 

The Leviathan were so powerful and great in their time, that perhaps rightfully, they didn't honestly consider the possibility of a real threat to their existence, and pride always comes before fall.

 

I'm not saying that it would be easy to harvest them, but an A.I. with a carte blanche to do *whatever it takes* is not something to sneeze at.

Remember that as long as it didn't do anything overt against the Leviathan, it could justify almost anything as part of it's "research".

[Vazgen]

The first harvest.

Apparently, the intelligence was able to harvest the Leviathan and create Harbinger when:

-- There were not yet any reapers available to conduct the harvest
-- It managed to harvest a species capable of defeating reapers and mind control

Leviathan mentions the intelligence creating pawns. Those pawns were likely purely synthetic and Leviathans have no control over them. Those pawns were the ones doing the harvest. They were the ones building the first Reaper - Harbinger. 

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Another thing that doesn't make sense: Cerberus making it through the Omega 4 relay in one piece. The Omega 4 relay needed a special IFF so that drift would be minimized so that you wouldn't end up ripped to shreds and in a black hole.

 

Well this requires a leap of faith that the Reaper IFF is not a device but the software in the device. This would mean that The Illusive Man already had the software by the time Shepard's team went to the derelict reaper. So why did Shepard even bother going to the derelict reaper? Why not just give Shepard the Reaper IFF software?

 

Ah, plot reasons. Legion! That is the only reason. Otherwise you don't need it.

 

See, if the Reaper IFF was a device as is mentioned in the story, then The Illusive Man would want that device, right? And our job was to go through the relay and destroy the Collector Base, right? A one way trip. So...

 

But then that panel magically allows us to send a radiation pulse through the station and kill all the Collectors and leave the Technology intact! So even if we do that, there is no indication anywhere, either in game or in any comic where Shepard gives the IFF to The Illusive Man.... Miranda? And Cerberus gets through anyway, even if you destroy the base, leaving me to conclude it was software, not a device, and that TIM had it all along. So why didn't TIM just give it to you instead of sending you to the derelict reaper to retrieve it?

[Vazgen]

IFF is hardware. And I don't think this counts as a "thing that doesn't make sense" in the same way as some of the other issues brought up in this thread. I'd classify it as "removable via headcanon". Synthesis is a "thing that doesn't make sense"

[Laughing_Man]

Another thing that doesn't make sense: Cerberus making it through the Omega 4 relay in one piece. The Omega 4 relay needed a special IFF so that drift would be minimized so that you wouldn't end up ripped to shreds and in a black hole.

 

Well this requires a leap of faith that the Reaper IFF is not a device but the software in the device. This would mean that The Illusive Man already had the software by the time Shepard's team went to the derelict reaper. So why did Shepard even bother going to the derelict reaper? Why not just give Shepard the Reaper IFF software?

 

If we assume that the IFF is mainly software, EDI was at the time still bound, and was subject to any restrictions and orders TIM had placed on her.

He could have simply ordered her to send her complete findings to him through the quantum entanglement communicator immediately as she discovered them.

[Iakus]

Another thing that doesn't make sense: Cerberus making it through the Omega 4 relay in one piece. The Omega 4 relay needed a special IFF so that drift would be minimized so that you wouldn't end up ripped to shreds and in a black hole.

 

Well this requires a leap of faith that the Reaper IFF is not a device but the software in the device. This would mean that The Illusive Man already had the software by the time Shepard's team went to the derelict reaper. So why did Shepard even bother going to the derelict reaper? Why not just give Shepard the Reaper IFF software?

 

Ah, plot reasons. Legion! That is the only reason. Otherwise you don't need it.

 

See, if the Reaper IFF was a device as is mentioned in the story, then The Illusive Man would want that device, right? And our job was to go through the relay and destroy the Collector Base, right? A one way trip. So...

 

But then that panel magically allows us to send a radiation pulse through the station and kill all the Collectors and leave the Technology intact! So even if we do that, there is no indication anywhere, either in game or in any comic where Shepard gives the IFF to The Illusive Man.... Miranda? And Cerberus gets through anyway, even if you destroy the base, leaving me to conclude it was software, not a device, and that TIM had it all along. So why didn't TIM just give it to you instead of sending you to the derelict reaper to retrieve it?

Bah what really doesn't make sense is Shepard and his/her entire crew of bad@$$es decide to take a road trip in a kodiak right after plugging a piece of Reaper tech into the Normandy.

[Treacherous J Slither]

Another thing that doesn't make sense.

Recruiting that murderous psychopath Jack for a freaking suicide mission and her actually agreeing.

[Treacherous J Slither]

Another thing that doesn't make sense:

Not curing the genophage when you have the chance out of fear of what the krogan will do if/when the Reapers are destroyed.

As if victory can be assured. Ridiculous.

[Treacherous J Slither]

Another thing that doesn't make sense:

The Reapers not orbital striking everything. What are they landing for?

[Treacherous J Slither]

Another thing that doesn't make sense:

Not being able to listen to the games OST from the title menu. I know I could just YouTube or even Pandora it...but I shouldn't have to!

[Laughing_Man]

Another thing that doesn't make sense.

Recruiting that murderous psychopath Jack for a freaking suicide mission and her actually agreeing.

 

The game calls it a suicide mission, but it is never actually presented as such inside the story.

Just an extremely dangerous mission, and that's just another day in the office for Shep.

 

Jack just likes to destroy stuff, living or otherwise. A bit like Grunt. A mission like this one gives her a chance to get back at Cerberus by finding information, and find lots of challenging enemies to destroy - win win.

 

Another thing that doesn't make sense:

Not curing the genophage when you have the chance out of fear of what the krogan will do if/when the Reapers are destroyed.

As if victory can be assured. Ridiculous.

 

The part that makes no sense, is the part were Krogan foot soldiers supposedly can make a difference against Reapers.

All they can do is slow the ground forces, but we all know that reaper ground forces are just pawns and shock troops, not the real enemy.

The real danger is from actual Reapers, the big ones or the destroyers.

(the story about Krogan and Turian fighters working together to destroy a Reaper Destroyer seems unlikely in the extreme, considering their level of power.)

 

Still, if you do believe in the possibility of a victory, you have to think about the Krogan and their unlikely reproduction numbers.

 

Another thing that doesn't make sense:

The Reapers not orbital striking everything. What are they landing for?

Yeah. Science was shot in the head when the designers got to this part.

 

Orbital strikes even using technology that exists today (See "Kinetic bombardment", "Project Thor", "Rods from God".) are more devastating than the effects that were shown in ME3 of Reaper "beam" weapons used on urban areas.

 

That said, they may have wanted to leave more organics intact for harvesting.

 

And the Reapers landing on their giant stilts? That hurt my brain.

[Treacherous J Slither]

@TA: The kind of person I envisioned Jack to be would have got her Cerberus info after boarding the ship, learned all she wanted, and as soon as the ship docked somewhere she'd go ape **** and slaughter as many people on that boat as she could.

 

Purgatory was full of the baddest of the bad and they were all terrified of her. The sane ones anyway. There had to be good reason. 

 

Instead she came off as kind of a softie.

[Vazgen]

She knows better than to mess with Shepard.

"You don't want to be my enemy"

[Laughing_Man]

@TA: The kind of person I envisioned Jack to be would have got her Cerberus info after boarding the ship, learned all she wanted, and as soon as the ship docked somewhere she'd go ape **** and slaughter as many people on that boat as she could.

 

Purgatory was full of the baddest of the bad and they were all terrified of her. The sane ones anyway. There had to be good reason. 

 

Instead she came off as kind of a softie.

 

They are afraid of her because she gets high when she kills people due to Cerberus conditioning, and is capable of destroying three YMIR mechs with one biotic explosion. Still, that doesn't necessarily give her the personality of a monster, she can play fair assuming you don't try anything.

[Iakus]

They are afraid of her because she gets high when she kills people due to Cerberus conditioning, and is capable of destroying three YMIR mechs with one biotic explosion. Still, that doesn't necessarily give her the personality of a monster, she can play fair assuming you don't try anything.

 

She also has a murderous rage against Cerberus.  And the bulk of the SR2's crew is...Cerberus.

 

Yeah nothing could possibly go wrong with recruiting her 

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Yet you have to recruit her to trigger Horizon.

 

And making Tali an Admiral without even giving her a ship? WTF? Couldn't they have given her the Alarei? No. That was so she could remain "vas Normandy." An admiral in the Quarian fleet who serves on the ship not even in the Migrant Fleet. Now this really makes a lot of sense....

[themikefest]

The goodbyes in London.

 

I might be the only one that doesn't care for having them in London. I rather have them on the Normandy while heading to Earth. When talking with Anderson, Shepard says "Every minute wasted here, the reapers gather strength" Look at all that time wasted saying goodbye. When I get to the fob, I just ignore everyone and talk with Anderson.

 

https://youtu.be/ofCrBYAAMkI?t=11m15s

[The Gman707]

Something that bothers me every time I see it is the breather masks in places with dangerous or little to no atmosphere that only cover the mouth and nose.



Stop it.

Ha ha. I've often wondered why liara's eyes havent burst from the preasure. I can only assume there must be miniature mass effect fields protecting them or something.

[Vortex13]

Ha ha. I've often wondered why liara's eyes havent burst from the preasure. I can only assume there must be miniature mass effect fields protecting them or something.

 

 

Liara? What about Jack?

 

 

I don't care how much of a biotic badass you think you are, but you are not going to be destroying anyone when you eyes have ruptured and all your exposed skin has frozen/melted off.

 

 

Really, outside of ME 1 only Shepard (with a fully sealed helmet) EDI and Legion should be present on those missions in hazardous areas, everyone else should be pulling an Arnold from Total Recall.

[Iakus]

Liara? What about Jack?

 

 

I don't care how much of a biotic badass you think you are, but you are not going to be destroying anyone when you eyes have ruptured and all your exposed skin has frozen/melted off.

 

 

Really, outside of ME 1 only Shepard (with a fully sealed helmet) EDI and Legion should be present on those missions in hazardous areas, everyone else should be pulling an Arnold from Total Recall.

Jack's tatoos are airtight, yo 

 

But yeah, in ME2, I run pretty much just Garrus and Tali on those missions.

[themikefest]

How does medigel heal edi and Legion?

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

How does medigel heal edi and Legion?

 

Through the power of synthesis they are part organic... oh wait.