anyone notice the 2 bodies with the "oily shadow" coming off them vs the 2 close by that don't?? lol i could believe just singed but curious on others thought
better explaination:
In ME1 when you first get to eden prime the corridor leading to jenkins slaughter the bodies on the rock have a "oily/fresh cooked smoke" coming off them and the other 2 bodies do not
What I'd like to know is ...
How come Prothean Beacons, not only have Plug 'n' Play USB ports and Wireless Hotspots, but why do only 2 Cerberus agents have the passwords/plug to them?
Didn't Shepard get at least the Wireless Password from the Beacon on Eden Prime back in ME1?
And how come Prothean VI's can speak in Galactic Standard? So, erm ... why do we need a Cypher again exactly?
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And Who TF is Kai Leng? And who TF is that Corporal on the shuttle with Anderson who talks to you as though you should give a damn about his opinion?
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Space Magic ... 'Nuff said.
Here's another one: why did Saren need to set all those bombs in ME1? I mean couldn't Sovereign had glassed the f***ing colony with one shot? No one would have even guessed it was anything other than some giant geth ship. Beacon shmeacon. Shepard would have been dead, too.
Sovereign was an idiot. That was as bad as Shepard's thoughts about Asari reproduction.
"You're just machines, and machines can be broken."
Here's another one: why did Saren need to set all those bombs in ME1? I mean couldn't Sovereign had glassed the f***ing colony with one shot? No one would have even guessed it was anything other than some giant geth ship. Beacon shmeacon. Shepard would have been dead, too.
Sovereign was an idiot. That was as bad as Shepard's thoughts about Asari reproduction.
"You're just machines, and machines can be broken."
The same reason why the reapers didn't shutoff the relay when entering the Sol system at the beginning of ME3
The same reason why the reaper on Rannoch didn't fire its beam horizontally at Shepard
The same reason why the reaper didn't fire horizontally at Shepard on Tuchanka
The same reason why the reapers didn't destroy the crucible before attaching to the Citadel
The same reason why Harbinger didn't fire at the Normandy during the what-the-crap evac scene
The same reason why they never shutoff the beam from the Citadel to London
For them to be so high and mighty, they are, like you say, idiots
I always thought it was odd how the Mass relays never get wrecked by random debris. We clearly see that 1 asteroid (a big one) smashes it up into pieces.
I'd spin that one 180 degrees. IMO it doesn't make sense that the asteroid could destroy the relay, when they are quantum shielded and survive supernovas.
The whole point of the relay's impenetrability was rather essential to ME lore. It was also what prevented the current races to study and retro-engineer them. If you actually can blow them to pieces by hurling an asteroid at them (which -as is even said in arrival - is not that difficult, it is odd that no one ever tried before in more than 2000 years of almost constant war and strife between the races (including apocalyptic scenarios like the rachni wars and the krogan rebellions).
So yea, the inconsistency here is arrival's fault, really and back when it came out, there was a lot of criticism toward that particular issue.
My personal head cannon: Blowing up the relay worked only because of object rho. You can see a lot of "lightning" being exchanged between the asteroid and the relay, just before the collision. I say, object rho and the relay interacted somehow and when they collided, there was an energy discharge that blew up both. Thus, the fact that "the project" worked was nothing more than dumb luck. Hurl a normal asteroid at a relay and you will only displace it, not destroy it.
Object Rho was a Reaper made GoPro camera left behind after the raver they threw after their last reaping.
Object Rho was a Reaper made GoPro camera left behind after the raver they threw after their last reaping.
Here's another one: why did Saren need to set all those bombs in ME1? I mean couldn't Sovereign had glassed the f***ing colony with one shot? No one would have even guessed it was anything other than some giant geth ship. Beacon shmeacon. Shepard would have been dead, too.
Sovereign was an idiot. That was as bad as Shepard's thoughts about Asari reproduction.
"You're just machines, and machines can be broken."
Yeah that was a WTF moment for me too, Sovereign could've started blasting away at the facility the moment right after his conversation with Shepard.
The same reason why the reapers didn't shutoff the relay when entering the Sol system at the beginning of ME3
The same reason why the reaper on Rannoch didn't fire its beam horizontally at Shepard
The same reason why the reaper didn't fire horizontally at Shepard on Tuchanka
The same reason why the reapers didn't destroy the crucible before attaching to the Citadel
The same reason why Harbinger didn't fire at the Normandy during the what-the-crap evac scene
The same reason why they never shutoff the beam from the Citadel to London
For them to be so high and mighty, they are, like you say, idiots
The reapers were so arrogant that it was in fact on the level of idiocy.
I'd spin that one 180 degrees. IMO it doesn't make sense that the asteroid could destroy the relay, when they are quantum shielded and survive supernovas.
The whole point of the relay's impenetrability was rather essential to ME lore. It was also what prevented the current races to study and retro-engineer them. If you actually can blow them to pieces by hurling an asteroid at them (which -as is even said in arrival - is not that difficult, it is odd that no one ever tried before in more than 2000 years of almost constant war and strife between the races (including apocalyptic scenarios like the rachni wars and the krogan rebellions).
So yea, the inconsistency here is arrival's fault, really and back when it came out, there was a lot of criticism toward that particular issue.
My personal head cannon: Blowing up the relay worked only because of object rho. You can see a lot of "lightning" being exchanged between the asteroid and the relay, just before the collision. I say, object rho and the relay interacted somehow and when they collided, there was an energy discharge that blew up both. Thus, the fact that "the project" worked was nothing more than dumb luck. Hurl a normal asteroid at a relay and you will only displace it, not destroy it.
That was a larger than normal asteroid, which was purposely navigated toward the relay which I have to think isn't always stationary.
That was a larger than normal asteroid, which was purposely navigated toward the relay which I have to think isn't always stationary.
Larger than "normal"?
It's barely as big as the center part of the relay itself. Mass relays are approximately 15km long (that center part with the rings maybe 5), so this one falls into a medium category if we take the the seize distribution of the solar system as a reference. Plenty of such rocks floating around out there and with thruster, it should be easy to hit even a moving relay (I doubt they are capable of evasive maneuvers).
Larger than "normal"?
It's barely as big as the center part of the relay itself. Mass relays are approximately 15km long (that center part with the rings maybe 5), so this one falls into a medium category if we take the the seize distribution of the solar system as a reference. Plenty of such rocks floating around out there and with thruster, it should be easy to hit even a moving relay (I doubt they are capable of evasive maneuvers).
I'd say it's as big as the relay itself.
As for why no one ever tried to destroy one, because it causes death of everyone and everything in the system. Doing it "for science" does not sound like a good idea to me 
As for why no one ever tried to destroy one, because it causes death of everyone and everything in the system. Doing it "for science" does not sound like a good idea to me
Not to mention nobody (in this cycle at least) has studied them enough to reverse-engineer a relay, so you don't want to risk breaking one. Heck Kenson was the first scientist to figure out and put forth the theory that the relays are in fact older than the Protheans!
Of course, that's a whole other "doesn't make sense" thing in itself. Why would anyone not want to figure to how to reproduce the tech that transformed the galaxy?
"When I suggested we build our own mass relays, they laughed the blue off my ass. So now I serve drinks."
That line right there shows how the rest of the galaxy is on a whole new level of stupid.
Come to think of it, the asteroid destruction contradicts established lore. In ME1 Benezia tells Shepard that Mu Relay was displaced by a supernova explosion. If a relay can resist supernova explosions, how it can be destroyed with a single asteroid?
Why is Aria back on the Citadel after taking back Omega?
The Reapers were informed by TIM about the Citadel/Catalyst stuff so knowing it was their only weakness why didn't they hide it somewhere, instead of putting it on display over Earth with new express line to its core?
The Reapers were informed by TIM about the Citadel/Catalyst stuff so knowing it was their only weakness why didn't they hide it somewhere, instead of putting it on display over Earth with new express line to its core?
They use it to build a human Reaper. Beam quickens the process.
They use it to build a human Reaper. Beam quickens the process.
All right but then why was the Citadel empty inside aka no Reaper troops to guard it or at least to manage the creation of the new Reaper? Why not hide the Citadel for some time and build the new human Reaper after the imminent danger has passed, after all (I assume) they already knew/expected about the plans of Shepard and Co to go all in over Earth. The Reapers are very patient folks.
Btw I am not hating or bashing anything, I just find it interesting to talk about things like these. ^^
It's the same reason that Anderson says, "Shepard, I'm sending you up the middle where the resistance is the heaviest."
I mean wouldn't it have been smarter to send the Krogan and Vorcha up the middle to get slaughtered and slip Shepard around one of the flanks? If Shepard is the key to getting the job done, why would you put Shepard in the most danger? It's the same logic. The decision making on both sides fall to levels of stupid below stupid.
All right but then why was the Citadel empty inside aka no Reaper troops to guard it or at least to manage the creation of the new Reaper? Why not hide the Citadel for some time and build the new human Reaper after the imminent danger has passed, after all (I assume) they already knew/expected about the plans of Shepard and Co to go all in over Earth. The Reapers are very patient folks.
Btw I am not hating or bashing anything, I just find it interesting to talk about things like these. ^^
I like discussing
Shepard and Co go to Earth, because the Citadel was moved there. Tracking it is easy, Vendetta does it. They moved it there to finish up with harvesting and have a large fleet to protect it in case the fleets attack.
There were no Reaper troops in that part of the Citadel because they didn't know about Shepard's plan until the very last moment when Harbinger left the battlefield and landed on Earth to roast some Alliance soldier with his lasers. But they also had TIM there.
Of course, the whole scenario is based on the Reapers acting stupid. Turning off the Sol relay would've allowed them to harvest safely. Joint Reaper strike on the Crucible would've had nothing left from it. Turning off the beam would've rendered the whole plan moot. Destroyer shooting the Thanix missiles would've stopped the advance of the Hammer.
It's the same reason that Anderson says, "Shepard, I'm sending you up the middle where the resistance is the heaviest."
I mean wouldn't it have been smarter to send the Krogan and Vorcha up the middle to get slaughtered and slip Shepard around one of the flanks? If Shepard is the key to getting the job done, why would you put Shepard in the most danger? It's the same logic. The decision making on both sides fall to levels of stupid below stupid.
Remember that cutscene before the first pair of missiles?
An asari commando with some Turians, Krogan and Salarian are seen as the destroyer walks by. Anderson says, Take them out any way you can. There is no them. There is only it. And it, is the destroyer. The asari says open fire. What exactly is small arms fire going to do against the destroyer? Those charactesr got its attention and paid for it.
That's where Shepard needed to be. With them since after gaining control of Shepard the destroyer is near the beam and we're a fair distance away. What a perfect opportunity to sneak by the destroyer and up the beam. Not only that, Shepard has her squad and that asari, Krogan, Turians and salarian for back up. How cool would that of been had all gone up the beam and fight the uglies and possibly cerberus troopers while Shepard makes her way to the console?
I like to think that the reason the Destroyer doesn't shoot the thanix missiles is because there are those asari, krogan, turians and salarians giving their lives distracting it.
I like to think that the reason the Destroyer doesn't shoot the thanix missiles is because there are those asari, krogan, turians and salarians giving their lives distracting it.
The destroyer still had many opportunities to shoot the missiles especially the 2nd set of missiles. All the thing did was zig zag its beam avoiding the missiles trying to get Shepard. There was no reason for the cutscene
The destroyer still had many opportunities to shoot the missiles especially the 2nd set of missiles. All the thing did was zig zag its beam avoiding the missiles trying to get Shepard. There was no reason for the cutscene
Maybe they wanted to capture the missiles? They can do a fu**ton of damage, after all
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