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[KrrKs]

[Personal Headcanon]

 

Harbinger calling Starchild:

'TIM informed us that the galactic forces will arrive in short time. Shouldn't we close the backdoor to the control room just in case?'

 

SC: 'We have a deadline! This reaper is due in 100000 days, not an hour later! Let Steve guard the beam if you must.'

 

Harby: 'Steve is young and always stomping things instead of shooting them, you know he is kind 'special'. Shouldn't we at least send a few husk up there as backup? If nothing happens you  can still liquify them!'

 

SC: 'I don't like these little disgusting crawlers, Steve will handle it'

 

Harby: 'STEEEVE, just shoot the bastards this time, DAMNIT!' (I hope this works out) 'Else I come down there personally!'

 

Steve: 'Okey dokey' (Continues stomping a wrecked skycar)

[themikefest]

Shooting the tube

[SuperJogi]

Come to think of it, the asteroid destruction contradicts established lore. In ME1 Benezia tells Shepard that Mu Relay was displaced by a supernova explosion. If a relay can resist supernova explosions, how it can be destroyed with a single asteroid?

Because a supernova is something very different from an asteroid slamming into somenthing. A supernova isn't even technically an explosion. When a star goes supernova the core releases vast amounts of high energy EM radiation, wich blow the outer hulls of the star into space, creating a massive blast of EM and particle radiation. It's reasonable to assume that a mass relay would be properly shielded against that. Also, in order to be displaced, the relay doesn't even have to be "hit" by the supernova. If it was orbiting the star on the outer edges of the system (as relays usually do), then the substantial mass loss the main star suffered from going supernova could be enough for the realy to lose orbit and fly off into interstellar space.   

[Undead Han]

The dialogue just implies that the Mu relay was knocked out of its previous position by a supernova, not that it actually survived one. Presumably it was not orbiting the star that went supernova and was many light years away in a different system and had its orbit affected. Or it was in that system but orbiting very far from the star and was flung out into interstellar space along with the outer planets, while the inner planets were destroyed.

[Vazgen]

Because a supernova is something very different from an asteroid slamming into somenthing. A supernova isn't even technically an explosion. When a star goes supernova the core releases vast amounts of high energy EM radiation, wich blow the outer hulls of the star into space, creating a massive blast of EM and particle radiation. It's reasonable to assume that a mass relay would be properly shielded against that. Also, in order to be displaced, the relay doesn't even have to be "hit" by the supernova. If it was orbiting the star on the outer edges of the system (as relays usually do), then the substantial mass loss the main star suffered from going supernova could be enough for the realy to lose orbit and fly off into interstellar space.   

 

The dialogue just implies that the Mu relay was knocked out of its previous position by a supernova, not that it actually survived one. Presumably it was not orbiting the star that went supernova and was many light years away in a different system and had its orbit affected. Or it was in that system but orbiting very far from the star and was flung out into interstellar space along with the outer planets, while the inner planets were destroyed.

The dialogue mentions that a star nearby went supernova and shockwave propelled the relay out of its system. The way I see it, the shockwave should've been physical to have that effect on a relay, no?

[SuperJogi]

The dialogue mentions that a star nearby went supernova and shockwave propelled the relay out of its system. The way I see it, the shockwave should've been physical to have that effect on a relay, no?

And a shochwave of high energy hydrogen and helium atoms would do just about that. Particle radiation would be blocked by a strong enough kinetic barrier resulting in a force bieng applied evenly distributed on the realy, propelling it away from the star. I see no problem with that explenation.

 

As long as the relays electronics dont get fried by the high amount of gamma radiation it shoud be fine.

[Vazgen]

And a shockwave of high energy hydrogen and helium atoms would do just about that. Particle radiation would be blocked by a strong enough kinetic barrier resulting in a force bieng applied evenly distributed on the relay, propelling it away from the star. I see no problem with that explanation.

I see Nice! One less thing that I need to just accept as it is  

[SuperJogi]

I see Nice! One less thing that I need to just accept as it is

Considering how much mass effect ignores physics, it's quite amazing that this one actually makes sense.

[Undead Han]

The dialogue mentions that a star nearby went supernova and shockwave propelled the relay out of its system. The way I see it, the shockwave should've been physical to have that effect on a relay, no?

 

"A star nearby" seems to imply to me that it wasn't the Mu Relay's star that went bang. Perhaps it was in an adjacent system, far enough away that the relay wouldn't get obliterated or fried by gamma radiation, but close enough to be bumped off it's orbit.

 

Another possibility could be that when the star went supernova it flung the outer planets of its system out into interstellar space where they became rogue planets. Even if the Mu Relay was far enough way to be unaffacted by the shockwave, its possible that a rogue planet passing by close enough could give it a gravitational tug that could also pull it off of its original orbit.

[themikefest]

Low ems destroy

 

If Earth is scorched, why isn't the planet the Normandy is on scorched? Does that mean the beam doesn't reach every part of the galaxy even though it looks like it does when looking at the galaxy map when the Normandy is flying away from the beam? Would that mean some reapers may not of been destroyed or controlled or even synthesized?

[SuperJogi]

Low ems destroy

 

If Earth is scorched, why isn't the planet the Normandy is on scorched? Does that mean the beam doesn't reach every part of the galaxy even though it looks like it does when looking at the galaxy map when the Normandy is flying away from the beam? Would that mean some reapers may not of been destroyed or controlled or even synthesized?

Maybe the blast loses it's destructive power over distance and Earth was destroyed because it was right next to the citadel, while other habitable planets are usually further away from relays.

[MrFob]

Low ems destroy

 

If Earth is scorched, why isn't the planet the Normandy is on scorched? Does that mean the beam doesn't reach every part of the galaxy even though it looks like it does when looking at the galaxy map when the Normandy is flying away from the beam? Would that mean some reapers may not of been destroyed or controlled or even synthesized?

 

I always assumed that Earth is the only planet that is completely destroyed because it is at the epicenter of the wave. Could be that the further you get away, the less destruction it will cause, while still wiping out reapers.

I actually started writing a post-destroy fan fiction once, where the damage to the relay network becomes less, the further you go away from earth (as the beam is no longer so strong as to overload the relays). Consequently, the council races are pretty much screwed, whereas the Terminus Systems now have the best infrastructure in the galaxy, hehehe. Never got around to finishing that though.

 

Anyway, of course, that leaves the question as to how the Normandy, which just started out from earth could get that far away but then, the whole "being torn out of FTL and making a crash landing on a planet" is complete hokum for a whole number of reasons.

 

 

EDIT: Aaaaaaand ed

[themikefest]

 

Anyway, of course, that leaves the question as to how the Normandy, which just started out from earth could get that far away but then, the whole "being torn out of FTL and making a crash landing on a planet" is complete hokum for a whole number of reasons.

 

 

EDIT: Aaaaaaand ed

The Normandy should be in pieces on that planet. Even when the ems is higher, up to 2599, it should be in pieces on that planet

[SuperJogi]

 

Anyway, of course, that leaves the question as to how the Normandy, which just started out from earth could get that far away but then, the whole "being torn out of FTL and making a crash landing on a planet" is complete hokum for a whole number of reasons.

 

Oh, thats easy.

 

Joker was flying the normandy away from the citadel through space magic FTL. Then it got ripped out of FTL by a magic mysterious high tech energy blast. Through magic extreme luck fate there was a habitable planet just nearby. And then through magic extreme luck fate jokers excellent piloting skills he managed to land the Normandy without significand damage.

 

There you go, flawless.

[MrFob]

Oh, thats easy.

 

Joker was flying the normandy away from the citadel through space magic FTL. Then it got ripped out of FTL by a magic mysterious high tech energy blast. Through magic extreme luck fate there was a habitable planet just nearby. And then through magic extreme luck fate jokers excellent piloting skills he managed to land the Normandy without significand damage.

 

There you go, flawless.

 

See, that's what I was talking about in the other thread about assumptions and limiting your space magic ...

Also, the other hallmark of good SciFi is not to contradict your own established facts. As themikefest said, getting ripped out of FTL has been established to shred you into tiny little pieces before.

[themikefest]

Oh, thats easy.

 

Joker was flying the normandy away from the citadel through space magic FTL. Then it got ripped out of FTL by a magic mysterious high tech energy blast. Through magic extreme luck fate there was a habitable planet just nearby. And then through magic extreme luck fate jokers excellent piloting skills he managed to land the Normandy without significand damage.

 

There you go, flawless.

Funny how his so called excellent piloting couldn't avoid the collector beam in ME2 when he says brace for evasive maneuvers and flys into the beam

[SuperJogi]

Also, the other hallmark of good SciFi is not to contradict your own established facts. As themikefest said, getting ripped out of FTL has been established to shred you into tiny little pieces before.

 

 

Then it got ripped out gently deaccelerated out of FTL by a magic mysterious high tech energy blast.
 

fixed

 

Funny how his so called excellent piloting couldn't avoid the collector beam in ME2 when he says brace for evasive maneuvers and flys into the beam

To be fair, a weapon like that would be practically impossible to avoid at that close of a range.

[themikefest]

 

 

To be fair, a weapon like that would be practibly impossible to avoid at that close of a range.

It may of been hard to avoid, but he flew into it. Instead of going to his left, he went to his right

[Iakus]

Maybe the blast loses it's destructive power over distance and Earth was destroyed because it was right next to the citadel, while other habitable planets are usually further away from relays.

Even if that were the case, the mass relays rupture in Low EMS Destroy, which fries every world in a system with a relay in it.  That includes every homeworld and most colony worlds.

 

 I suppose it's theoretically possible that the world the Normandy landed on has no relay (though it should have taken hours if not days to reach it through ftl)

[themikefest]

The turian Bomb mission.

 

After rescuing the Turian Platoon, the player can do 2 missions without the bomb going boom otherwise after the third mission the bomb goes boom causing a loss in Krogan war assets and lots of dead Krogan. If the player avoids rescuing the Turian Platoon, the mission is removed from the galaxy map after Thessia is completed.

 

What happened to the bomb? Did the Turians disarm it? It would seem that Cerberus never knew about the bomb until after rescuing the platoon. Victus Jr. may of called it a Cerberus bomb to avoid the truth when talking with Shepard

 

If Cerberus didn't know about the bomb till after Victus junior was rescued, did they hack Shepard's omnitool to get the location or did someone tell them?

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Jacob's Mission. - If Jacob is trying to help Cerberus Scientists hide from Cerberus, why did Jacob move them to a Cerberus facility? There are Cerberus markings all over the place where the Scientists are. And I just love how no one question's Shepard's Cerberus Ajax Armor. It's hilarious.

[Vortex13]

The Collector Armor

 

 

 

 

So is this suit essentially a Collector's skin that Shepard is walking around in?  

 

The description says:

 

Cerberus adapted this suit for you out of salvaged Collector technology. The Collectors' chitinous armor is flexible and even tougher than ballistic fibers. Its organic construction allows it to be self-healing, and the muscle-like tissue that assists movement ensures it is comfortable to wear despite its weight.

 

Sure it says that the armor is adapted from Collector technology, but it seems rather odd that the bug people would make bug armor to wear over their bug bodies. It seems more likely that Cerberus scientists took a dead collector, flayed it, and turned its remains into a suit. 

 

I bet Harbinger/The Collector General would be going "And I thought we were bad." when they see Shepard walking around in that. 

 

Plus wouldn't wearing that armor be rather off-putting to people that were part of the collector attacks? Imagine Shepard wearing this when he/she frees Kelly Chambers and the Normany crew from the Collector Base. "Oh Commander thank you for the rescu….. AHHHH!" 

[MrFob]

Yep, it's basically Silence of the Lambs in the ME universe.

 

That's why I never use that thing and -in ME3 where we have a lot of reskins - turn it into something useful.

[Vazgen]

[Vazgen]

Communications. Hackett has that QEC and Shepard can talk to him from the War Room whenever he wants. But how does Hackett contact Shepard on the shuttle before N7 missions? Reapers destroy comm buoys and those systems are Reaper-controlled.