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[thesuperdarkone2]

Then it only makes her ending more ridiculous.

Ah, the classic "It can't work cuz it can't" logic. Ah, how wondrous.

[Milan92]

Ah, the classic "It can't work cuz it can't" logic. Ah, how wondrous.

 

More like "I prefer my endings to make sense and are believable."

[Xilizhra]

The idea of Leliana becoming Divine is good.

 

The execution of it is horrendous and not feasible in the slightest, to say nothing of how I think her characterization was assassinated in Inquisition.

How was it assassinated?

[Marcus_Brody]

I think none of them is a good option. Cassandra and Leliana are not leaders(we can see that when they create the Inquisition), both need the support of the Inquisitor.

Mother Giselle would have been the best Divine

[TheKomandorShepard]

Ah, the classic "It can't work cuz it can't" logic. Ah, how wondrous.

No it can't work because simple it isn't how people work.

 

First of all mages are hated before the story even more during the story and are after the story that leliana convinced people to like mages is absolutely ridiculous in first place because no one can remove hatred especially that people have good reasons to hate mages and leliana can't remove that reasons because it is simple part of being mage in da universe. Even in our times racism is still common and and people with a different skin color can't blow up city or create disaster that threatens the world.

 

So yes leliana ending is ridiculous because if people could pull that off we would be living in utopia by now...

[thesuperdarkone2]

Man, I am eager to see people's reactions if Leliana's ending doesn't backfire.

[katerinafm]

Oh also I haven't been able to get her as divine yet. What do I need to do? It's pretty  frustrating that I didn't get her in my pro-mage save.

[thesuperdarkone2]

Oh also I haven't been able to get her as divine yet. What do I need to do? It's pretty  frustrating that I didn't get her in my pro-mage save.

Ally with the mages, make briala ruler, ally with the Wardens, and support her when she asks for it make her much more likely to become Divine. To ensure she's divine, NEVER say that Cass' ideas are good or that she would make a good divine because those option give MASSIVE boosts to her chances of being divine.

[TEWR]

I think none of them is a good option. Cassandra and Leliana are not leaders(we can see that when they create the Inquisition), both need the support of the Inquisitor.

Mother Giselle would have been the best Divine

 

Well, Cass is a leader (you're never given a reason why she isn't allowed to be one, especially since it was she who formally declared the Inquisition reborn) and I'm actually kinda sad and annoyed she didn't appear at the War Table post-Haven.

[katerinafm]

Ally with the mages, make briala ruler, ally with the Wardens, and support her when she asks for it make her much more likely to become Divine. To ensure she's divine, NEVER say that Cass' ideas are good or that she would make a good divine because those option give MASSIVE boosts to her chances of being divine.

 

Do I HAVE to make Briala rule? Is there anything else I can do instead?

[Snook]

Man, I am eager to see people's reactions if Leliana's ending doesn't backfire.

 

I'm willing to bet the vast majority of this reaction you speak of would be you gloatingly shouting about it from the rooftops.

[thesuperdarkone2]

Do I HAVE to make Briala rule? Is there anything else I can do instead?

You don't have to. If you ally with the mages and support her when she asks for your support and NEVER agree with Cass being divine or her ideas being good, you'll be fine.

[raging_monkey]

Do I HAVE to make Briala rule? Is there anything else I can do instead?

briala Xcelene works to in my experiance. And saving wardens anti-chantry prop the works

[thesuperdarkone2]

I'm willing to bet the vast majority of this reaction you speak of would be you gloatingly shouting about it from the rooftops.

When people say it will never work, they are pretty much asking for it. You also forget the time a pro-templar supporter got Leliana as Divine and went on a rant saying their character never would have supported this and would commit suicide to ensure mages would never be free.

[katerinafm]

You don't have to. If you ally with the mages and support her when she asks for your support and NEVER agree with Cass being divine or her ideas being good, you'll be fine.

 

briala Xcelene works to in my experiance. And saving wardens anti-chantry prop the works

 

I'll keep it in mind. I guess I'll have to be super careful of the choices if I replay that character.

[thesuperdarkone2]

I'm willing to bet the vast majority of this reaction you speak of would be you gloatingly shouting about it from the rooftops.

When people say it will never work, they are pretty much asking for it. You also forget the time a pro-templar supporter got Leliana as Divine and went on a rant saying their character never would have supported this and would commit suicide to ensure mages would never be free.

[Xilizhra]

The problem I have with Leliana's epilogue is that despite uprooting the entire system from the core, she receives far less opposition than Cassandra and Vivienne, whose reforms are quite moderate in comparison.

 

In other words, the issue lies with the narrative and not the character herself. 

Leliana isn't a complete blunt instrument socially, unlike one, and isn't a mage, unlike the other.

Also, the system was already uprooted. Leliana actually has less work to do than the others, because she doesn't have to rebuild the Circles.

[AresKeith]

Oh boy another Divine Leliana thread

[Milan92]

The problem I have with Leliana's epilogue is that despite uprooting the entire system from the core, she receives far less opposition than Cassandra and Vivienne, whose reforms are quite moderate in comparison.

 

In other words, the issue lies with the narrative and not the character herself. 

 

Thats how I feel about it.

[raging_monkey]

I'll keep it in mind. I guess I'll have to be super careful of the choices if I replay that character.

its mostly just rping a libertarian

[raging_monkey]

Oh boy another Divine Leliana thread

you know you love em

[Augustei]

Why do people keep saying Vivienne is the status quo? Her ending says she gives the mages "More freedoms and responsibilities than ever before". That doesn't sound like the status quo to me. And her sitting on the sunburst throne means you can pretty much throw that verse "Magic exists to serve man and never rule over him" right out the window.
Cassandra would be closer to the status quo if you ask me.

[Basement Cat]

Man, I am eager to see people's reactions if Leliana's ending doesn't backfire.

For my money, all of them are going to backfire in some way. This is Bioware: no happy ending lasts for long. They are fond of their drama. Let's not forget that even with the Breach closed, red lyrium remains a very dangerous threat and there is no solution for it as of yet. Especially considering what we find out about it.

 

I don't think who became Divine will make much of a difference. Everyone is going to turn into red lyrium abominations before long. *crank drama dial to 11* THEDAS IS DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!

[Augustei]

Having Alistair and Anora marry is obviously the best choice and removes most of the problems having only one rule could have

 

I disagree, its not so obvious. Having Alistair on the throne means he becomes the face of the government and is involved in diplomatic meetings. The war table mission to make peace between Ferelden and Orlais outlines his prescence made the talks a struggle. Then theres the comics with his whole adventure to Antiva and Tevinter instead of ruling his country, where he walks into a room full of Magisters, announces his Kingly presence and makes it clear he's there to kill one of them.. 
Then theres that random visit to Kirkwall where he's there looking for allies except he never asks for an alliance and its plainly evident the Templars control the city. 

Also the Connor choice was handled stupidly. This demon turned all the castles soldiers into a walking skeletal army and sent Teagan mad and its logical to just go "Oh we'll just disappear for 4 days to go get the mages, I'm sure all will be fine" (said to be a 2 day trip to the tower) So leaving the demon to its own devices for 4 days sounds logical? The fact something didn't happen is baffling