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[Karlone123]

If chosen to stay behind in the Fade, Hawke is seeing running towards the fade spider but is not shown to have died in the process of fighting the creature. Hawke is believed dead by the Inquisition. Would you think Hawke is physically trapped in the Fade, and also on the side, encounter Corypheus after he also was banished by the Inquisitor to the fade and finish what Hawke started?

[caradoc2000]

Anything is possible, I'd rather not see this however.

[katerinafm]

Someone pointed out that Flemeth tells Hawke not to be afraid of the Abyss and not hesitate to 'leap' in DA2 while  the quest with Hawke in DAI is called 'here lies the abyss'. Could be just a cool coincidence, but what if that hints that Hawke will survive?

[raging_monkey]

Someone pointed out that Flemeth tells Hawke not to be afraid of the Abyss and not hesitate to 'leap' in DA2 while the quest with Hawke in DAI is called 'here lies the abyss'. Could be just a cool coincidence, but what if that hints that Hawke will survive?

and comeback as the champion of the fade... i like it

[katerinafm]

and comeback as the champion of the fade... i like it

 

Wouldn't it be super cool if she predicted it? I'd like it

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

I hope they're dead, tbh. I don't want my [Hug Varric] feels to be for nothing.

[riverbanks]

...but what if that hints that Hawke will survive?

 

Then it would mean that Loghain, Stroud and Alistair also have to survive or the choice makes no sense. And this being the third or fourth chance Alistair and Loghain alone have to die along the series, it's very unlikely.

 

Not to mention a lot of people who left their Hawkes behind wanted Hawke to die (for whatever reasons, from spite against the character to just liking the idea of Hawke having a tragic death), so a sudden reapparance would not only kill any emotional impact this choice has, it would also make it all the more aggravating for players who deliberately chose this ending.

[raging_monkey]

Wouldn't it be super cool if she predicted it? I'd like it

ikr mind blown

[Todrazok]

I am of firm belief that the Hawke is not done yet and will take flight after his/her fall,

[katerinafm]

Then it would mean that Loghain, Stroud and Alistair also have to survive or the choice makes no sense.

 

I don't think it means they HAVE to survive. Maybe there really is a right and wrong choice in the matter. Hawke is ALWAYS there because the right choice is to send him in so nobody dies while sending the other person, whether it be Stroud, Alistair or Loghain makes them die. I mean, not saying it's how it is, just making up theories of how it could work.

[Dragonzzilla]

Let me quote something I saw on tumblr on this:
 

i submit this theory: hawke is the one to kill the nightmare.

We all know the choice reads “will likely die” to cover the Inquisitor’s escape. I suspect, no matter how heart-breaking Varric’s reaction is, that leaving Hawke behind is ultimately the right decision.

First: “The world fears the inevitable plummet into the abyss. Watch for that moment… and when it comes, do not hesitate to leap. It is only when you fall that you learn whether you can fly” that has already been pointed out before in relation to the quest, actually bloody called Here Lies the Abyss. It reads like a narrative connection, a clue—foreshadowing, if you will. Nothing is ever titled without a very specific purpose in mind.

Second, Hawke is the only person we have seen so far that has the ability to overcome the very essence of Nightmare: ancient, primal, debilitating.

Beyond any shadow of doubt, the Nightmare’s taunt for Hawke is the most gut-wrenching: “Did you think anything you ever did mattered?”

Because we all know, it did not.

This thing that frustrated us as gamers—the idea that no matter what decisions we made in an RPG title that usually lets us control the fate of nations, nothing changed—becomes the catalyst of Hawke’s character, the well from which they draw strength. Again and again, Hawke faces personal waking nightmares: from the Darkspawn attack on their home that claims one of the twins’ lives, to ultimately losing their other sibling (either to the Taint/Wardens, the Gallows, or the Templars), to the horrific death of their mother no matter how hard they fight, no matter what decision they make in the investigation of her murderer.

And then, Hawke has to face the nightmares of nations. An invisible war: the faithful spreading propaganda and crucifying heretics. A Qunari invasion of the city. An underground rebellion. Growing tensions between Mages and Templars that ultimately erupt into the start of a war. And then—personal again, even after all the loss: the lies of a lover, the unraveling of a friend, anger, betrayal, death—things explode around you, Hawke. And there’s not a damn thing you can do to prevent it.

All while remaining a pillar of leadership for the friends who have become family.

When there’s nothing left to do but survive, to hold those you love as close as you possibly can, you grow strong, knowing you’ve faced your worst nightmares again and again and you’re still standing.

This is the strength of Hawke.

It is the strength that will overcome the Nightmare, as it has overcome so many (so impossibly many; so unfairly many) before.

[His Name was HYR!!]

Someone pointed out that Flemeth tells Hawke not to be afraid of the Abyss and not hesitate to 'leap' in DA2 while  the quest with Hawke in DAI is called 'here lies the abyss'. Could be just a cool coincidence, but what if that hints that Hawke will survive?

 

It is far from the first "abyss" Hawke has faced up to this point, it is simply the only one with the potential to claim him for good (in which case, death).

[katerinafm]

Let me quote something I saw on tumblr on this:
 

 

That was the theory I saw too!

[riverbanks]

I don't think it means they HAVE to survive. Maybe there really is a right and wrong choice in the matter. Hawke is ALWAYS there because the right choice is to send him in so nobody dies while sending the other person, whether it be Stroud, Alistair or Loghain makes them die. I mean, not saying it's how it is, just making up theories of how it could work.

 

Having only Hawke survive would necessitate a reason for why they survive when the others don't, which leads us back to branching storylines, which is something BW is pointedly stepping away from. They learned their lesson about irreconcilable world states with the Old God Baby, I doubt they'll be repeating the same mistake with Hawke here.

[katerinafm]

Having only Hawke survive would necessitate a reason for why they survive when the others don't, which leads us back to branching storylines, which is something BW is pointedly stepping away from. They learned their lesson about irreconcilable world states with the Old God Baby, I doubt they'll be repeating the same mistake with Hawke here.

 

If Hawke doesn't have a big part in future storylines then I don't see why it couldn't be a choice just like Alistair/Stroud/Loghain were possible to happen. As for a reason why they survive, maybe skill (he IS the champion)? Luck? When two people are put in the exact same situation, it doesn't guarantee the same outcome each time.

[raging_monkey]

While not a fan of Hawke, if he survived and upon his return went insane from his time in the Fade I wouldn't mind.

hmm sounds like shadow revan.... ill keep my money

[Cespar]

There was no way I could leave behind my Hawke, but hopefully Loghain(my hero) survives the fade. But something that's even worse than death, is fighting a possessed Loghain. 

[thats1evildude]

If chosen to stay behind in the Fade, Hawke is seeing running towards the fade spider but is not shown to have died in the process of fighting the creature. Hawke is believed dead by the Inquisition. Would you think Hawke is physically trapped in the Fade?

 

Even if he survived the Nightmare, it's basically the same as being dead. It's not like there's food and water in the Fade.

[dgcatanisiri]

Even if he survived the Nightmare, it's basically the same as being dead. It's not like there's food and water in the Fade.

 

There are plenty of Fade rifts across Thedas, even beyond the Inquisition's reach (there's banter between advisers on the subject). Maybe they find their way through one of them to some distant nation.

[Carmen_Willow]

Having only Hawke survive would necessitate a reason for why they survive when the others don't, which leads us back to branching storylines, which is something BW is pointedly stepping away from. They learned their lesson about irreconcilable world states with the Old God Baby, I doubt they'll be repeating the same mistake with Hawke here.

Bioware HAS to prune the branches as the Dragon Age saga continues, elsewise there will be so many different futures, it would take seven discs and/or half your console's hard drive just to contain the disparate data. Can you imagine the load times?  No, they are narrowing it down, pruning the future-tree to make it viable.

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

While not a fan of Hawke, if he survived and upon his return went insane from his time in the Fade I wouldn't mind. 

There's no way Hawke could survive, since he's a mage who decide to whack a giant spider thing with his staff instead of unleashing all the power he has at his fingertip on the monster.

 

I'm not a fan of Hawke as well, and I rather want a character who's likely going to die stay dead, but I wouldn't mind seeing Hawke survived (In case you left him/her in the Fade) so he/she could return, but as insane or twisted person. If Hawke/Alistair/Loghain or Stroud survived through all that with his/her mind intact, that's just insult to one intelligence.