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[The Jackal]

I know this may not be the popular opinion. What fun would opinions be if they were all the same. I been thinking about this game. 90 percent of the entire game is running around doing stuff for other people. From nearly the very start when we enter the town. We have to do a countless number of (feels like mini quests) turn in "xx for this reward"

 

I don't know if I consider running around for hours picking up countless items. Turning in to other people fun. Is the next game. We are going to do twice as much work for no reward. The only reward seemed to be that the person helped your cause. You actually can skip nearly all the quest. It doesn't really change anything. At all.

 

The Boss still dies at the end. Everyone is saved. You can't screw up being the Hero. There's no number of different endings. Even with Mass Effect 3 the ending were slightly different. (The color) I just don't know if this is turning into the game. I fell in love with. Am I sincerely only one notices this.

[katerinafm]

Yeah, it's not everyone's cup of tea, which is why it's optional content.

[Aaleel]

Wow, it's all the way up to 90% now.

[The Jackal]

That shouldn't the main option for the game. Either play the game or don't. That type of mentality is all wrong. I'm trying to express feedback. What I'm getting is "If you don't like the game don't play" How very different the game was at DA: O the unique story lines. When you were able to confront that mage in the tower for example.

 

You could easily get her to join your party or blast through her with the other mages. The point I'm trying to get across is it feels like a very very different game. Not in a great way. It seems more focused on combat and less on storyline. I admit the graphics look pretty damn cool. However I would rather take a very compelling storyline over shiny graphics any day.

 

If your only reply to that is "Well don't play the game anymore" then that's not really very helpful either. If your fine and content with the way things are. Great don't feel the need to rub that into my face. I never saw what was so wrong with DA: O why did they feel the need to change that made them a success in the first place. It wasn't the graphics that launched the game. 

[The Jackal]

I wasn't trying to rub anything in your face.  You made a false claim and simply corrected you.  There was no malice intended.

 

What false claim did I make. 

[dongsaeng]

I always thought perhaps some of those small sidequests would make an impact later and perhaps carry over to the next games just like in the previous DA games which is why I do them.

 

But it came to a point however where the sidequests were such a chore, that I just went through with the main storyline just to get over and do another playthrough,

[The Jackal]

I quoted it and directly addressed it.

 

When someone usually asks a question getting a direct response would be great. If you had written your first response clearly enough. I wouldn't be asking you to go into detail. Since you can't. I'll move on.

 

I played this game a couple different times. Even playing as a guy or a girl. The outcome was still the same. There was almost no way for me to fail in beating in the final boss. As there was no different outcome for completing a quest as there was for not doing it.  Everyone is still saved. Despite what you do or don't do. Your massive building is still there despite what you do or don't supply to it.

 

I noticed running around was now considered fun. I thought fun was making choices that actually had different outcomes. You know like in DA: O how if you picked a single path. It lead a chain reaction of different choices and outcomes. Where is that. You get to make maybe a few choices that actually matter in the game. They don't really matter at all in the ending. Its very different compared to the story writing in DA: O

 

If this is what passes as a great time. Then DA: I didn't evolve. It just change. Change is not always for the better. That's just my two cents. 

[duckley]

Wow, it's all the way up to 90% now.

Yes, I was wondering about that too. I was thinking it was closer to 85%...

[Raiil]

What false claim did I make.

You can mess up being the hero, you simply choose to take advantage of game mechanics and restart.

[The Jackal]

Yes, I was wondering about that too. I was thinking it was closervto 85%...

 

That's the thing. There no point in even bringing up these topics. Because Trolls de-rail it so hard with "If you don't like it. Play something else." Silly me for thinking that an actual productive response would be gathered. I'll leave you to this thread and this section. 

[X Equestris]

When someone usually asks a question getting a direct response would be great. If you had written your first response clearly enough. I wouldn't be asking you to go into detail. Since you can't. I'll move on.
 
I played this game a couple different times. Even playing as a guy or a girl. The outcome was still the same. There was almost no way for me to fail in beating in the final boss. As there was no different outcome for completing a quest as there was for not doing it.  Everyone is still saved. Despite what you do or don't do. Your massive building is still there despite what you do or don't supply to it.
 
I noticed running around was now considered fun. I thought fun was making choices that actually had different outcomes. You know like in DA: O how if you picked a single path. It lead a chain reaction of different choices and outcomes. Where is that. You get to make maybe a few choices that actually matter in the game. They don't really matter at all in the ending. Its very different compared to the story writing in DA: O
 
If this is what passes as a great time. Then DA: I didn't evolve. It just change. Change is not always for the better. That's just my two cents.

DAO was hardly a picture of every quest mattering. Outside of main story and companion quests, a lot of the sidequests were utterly irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

[Aaleel]

That's the thing. There no point in even bringing up these topics. Because Trolls de-rail it so hard with "If you don't like it. Play something else." Silly me for thinking that an actual productive response would be gathered. I'll leave you to this thread and this section. 

 

It's hard to give a productive response when the initial post is so grossly exaggerated.

[X Equestris]

That's the thing. There no point in even bringing up these topics. Because Trolls de-rail it so hard with "If you don't like it. Play something else." Silly me for thinking that an actual productive response would be gathered. I'll leave you to this thread and this section.

People are exasperated by the hyperbole you and some others use. As if there has never been a Bioware game with boring or irrelevant sidequests before.

[Twilight_Princess]

[SomeUsername]

Asking for a better game overall is too much. Most complaints turn to previous game vs this.

[FadelessRipley]

To be fair to OP, they are just saying they didn't like the new "fetch quest" element. Also that the choices don't seem to have as much of an impact as previous DA titles or even ME.

I can see their point. I didn't hate the fetch quests - except shards. Shards can go f*** themselves. Some decisions didn't have an immediate visible impact in game, and no decision seemed to hamper the endgame itself (epilogues are affected, yes). While I agree the decisions in Origins didn't necessarily affect the ability to complete the endgame, they had a tangible impact in some way. You could leave Redcliffe to rot, kill the Dalish or Werewolves, kill Conor, defile the Ashes, and so on. Some actions lead to to companions leaving you. Perhaps I was just lucky, but in DA:I I didn't have one companion leave, no matter how pissed. I've played the same canon playthrough like I always do in RPGs, so I'm not saying that's gospel, mind you. Or take ME for example - don't do a loyalty mission and someone dies. Don't have enough Paragon/Renegade influence and you can't get both Quarians and Geth as allies. Even the traffic light choices at the end allow you to sacrifice the sentient race you broke your back to save, should you have chosen to do so.

While I'm sure decisions such as the Grey Wardens' fate *will* have a bigger impact, I didn't quite feel the same immediate impact as I have before. And the fetch quests, while fun, were a little excessive in places. The one thing that did irk me about is that capturing keeps or upgrading Skyhold didn't have a bigger impact. I know that's a thing they changed a while back, and that's cool. But something akin to Awakening, where you had to really prepare to save both Amaranthine and Vigil's Keep would have been good.

Again I always play the same way and only have two playthroughs so far where I did pretty much everything (except goddamn shards!), so if I'm wrong then feel free to let me know. Just don't shout.

[Darkly Tranquil]

Naff fetch quests are common in RPGs. What's really sad is how some people actually seem to happy about it.

[Nefla]

Yeah, it's not everyone's cup of tea, which is why it's optional content.

What is the alternative option? Where is the fun content I can play instead?

[thats1evildude]

Aren't all RPGs basically a neverending series of errands? "I would help you, brave adventurer, but I need you to go kill those werewolves/find this artifact/locate this missing princess/slay that dragon first?"

[Innsmouth Dweller]

What is the alternative option? Where is the fun content I can play instead?

Pillars of Eternity

[Loghain Mac-Tir]

The thing is though, if these 'fetch quests' had a few cut scenes, people wouldn't be so pissed off with them. I am telling you, if the same quest where the widow asks you to kill the Templars and get her wedding ring back, had some cut scenes, it wouldn't have felt so lifeless. But seriously, people need to stop acting as if every DA:O side quest had some amazing story, awesome characters and some great reward, because ... 'Places of Power' anyone ??

 

As it is, there are quite a few side quests worth doing in Inquisition, but since there are so many of them, you may end up doing the "wrong" ones.