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[Captain Obvious]

For those that aren't aware, Nintendo's next-gen console has been revealed to be in development, currently dubbed the "NX." Many have speculated that "NX" might stand for "Nintendo Cross" or "Nintendo Crossplatform." This may correspond with previous rumors of Nintendo Fusion, in which Nintendo's next console is supposedly really a console/handheld hybrid, in which you'd be able to take your console games anywhere (I may be wrong about this part). 

 

This is all part of announcement by Nintendo of not just Nintendo IPs coming to smartphones, tablets, and PCs, but also a new membership service that integrates smart devices and Nintendo consoles both.

 

 

I think this opens up a realm of possibilities for Nintendo. Perhaps this could be a huge step in, say, porting Nintendo games, at least old ones, to Steam. 

 

 

Then there's the fate of the Wii U. Do they plan to slowly end the Wii U earlier than expected for a more profitable console? Perhaps. I can see them rolling in the next console during late 2016 at the earliest. Perhaps they'll transition to the next iteration of Nintendo hardware in 2017, maintaining an image of confidence in their product and avoiding any dissatisfaction at not abandoning the Wii U owners so early. After all, Iwata seemed to indicate before that they wouldn't be moving on to their next console any time soon. This is all speculation on my part and I'm no more closer to figuring all this out than anyone else. 

 

I hope Nintendo continues to progress as a company. I consider myself a PS4 fan, but lately, particularly since E3 2014, my interest in Nintendo has slowly regenerated. Games like Xenoblade Chronicles X, Splatoon, and Zelda Wii U (apparently the title that's suppose to revolutionize the series) have certainly piqued interest and of course, I can't say that I dislike my 3DS and I hope that the new Fire Emblem is as good, if not better, than Awakening. With all that said, Nintendo's future will certainly be an intriguing one and whatever comes next for them will certainly be note-worthy.

 

[Cyonan]

Honestly as long as they keep making Fire Emblem I'll keep giving them money.

 

.... I swear I'm not addicted.

[Terca]

When have nintendo code names ever really had an impact on the final product and what it means? Not to detract, but I distinctly remember pre-Wii the console being named the Revolution. Kind of shows Iwata thought about it, but not much else.

 

As for porting things... Maybe? Nintendo has a highly 'appable' library of first party games which they could turn into a neverending tsunami of mobile games, from platformers to little gimmicky apps. Hell, we might see Cooking Mama on mobile, which would actually be pretty cool. I could see mobile becoming the place where they keep all the little things which would be meaningless side-gimmicks in games and making them accessible. Something like a mini 'Mario Kart', or a 'Pokemon Snap' type game.

 

The real meat of it comes down to whether or not we expect them to provide that content to PC. It would be weird to move smaller games onto PC, but if they wanted to start new IPs on that platform I think they could do well... Possibly. Maybe. I don't know.

 

Some commentators (notably TechReviewUSA) think that if Nintendo were to roll out a new console before the latter half of 2016 it would be a ripoff. I don't know if I agree with that, but consoles cost money, I get that. It would put Nintendo weirdly out of step with the generation which might not be a bad thing though. If they expect the One and PS4 to last until 2018 or 2020 (though they may last longer) that might mean that they don't need to worry about competing directly with numbers during holiday season with Sony and Microsoft. Whether that matters, (since it didn't for the WiiU, but there are more than that for problems with the WiiU) or not is a question of how well Nintendo markets, so on, so forth.

 

I personally am part of the peaseemusterdrace and don't plan on buying another console for a while (the last one I bought was in 2011) but still have a soft spot for Nintendo. Since it looks like I'll be skipping out on the WiiU, I'll be sure to nab the NX when it comes out, granted that there's a game to go along with it.

[wolfsite]

A few articles

 

 

New System spec(ulation)

http://www.gamespot....ftag=YHR28b9ce3

 

Importance of player base

http://www.gamespot....mpaign=homepage

 

What I really like in Iwata's speech is that he never once refers to the Free to play model as "Free to Play", he calls it free to start, which shows that he does understand what it really is and understands what consumers truly see most mobile games as.

[Riven326]

I would like them to get out of the hardware business or stick strictly to handhelds. Buying a $300 console just to play Nintendo games in 2015 is an absurd idea.

[RZIBARA]

I believe Nintendo needs to do only three things, and they will be set for success:

 

- Continue to push out quality first party content. Maybe a sequel to Super Mario 64, and a proper Paper Mario though? And a Zelda game that feels like a proper successor to Ocarina of Time, without the childish art style of current Zelda games?

 

- Make the hardware powerful. Like really powerful, way stronger then the PS4 and XB1. Imagine how much sales they would be able to make if they had all the multiplats as well as their first party games.

 

- IMPORTANT: No more gimmicky crap controllers! Just focus on simple gaming, like the Gamecube, N64, SNES and NES

[SwobyJ]

Pokemon MMO, would Oculus and get trapped in-game forever to play it.

 

This. This. This. This. This. This. THIS.

[Cyonan]

I believe Nintendo needs to do only three things, and they will be set for success:

 

- Continue to push out quality first party content. Maybe a sequel to Super Mario 64, and a proper Paper Mario though? And a Zelda game that feels like a proper successor to Ocarina of Time, without the childish art style of current Zelda games?

 

- Make the hardware powerful. Like really powerful, way stronger then the PS4 and XB1. Imagine how much sales they would be able to make if they had all the multiplats as well as their first party games.

 

- IMPORTANT: No more gimmicky crap controllers! Just focus on simple gaming, like the Gamecube, N64, SNES and NES

 

Making the hardware significantly stronger would drive the price through the roof, which worked out pretty poorly for the Playstation 3 at the start. Most people don't want to pay $1000+ for a console.

 

It's also irrelevant for multiplat games. My top of the line PC doesn't mean much in Mass Effect 3 when BioWare didn't go beyond the Xbox 360's limits.

[ObserverStatus]

I can't really say I like the idea of Nintendo jointly developing new games with mobile developers, and getting into microtransactions as a business model. Their collaboration with Team Ninja was bad enough. This stage of Nintendo's evolution doesn't remind me of a Charmeleon turning into a Charizard as much as it does that part of The Thing where that one dude's head falls off, grows crab legs, and runs away.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Pay 9.99$ to buy 10 Pokemon crystals.

[SwobyJ]

Its so easy for me to avoid games with microtransactions. Its like, *looks at game*... *NOPE*... *goes for a run*.

[wolfsite]

[mybudgee]

I am still having trouble understanding how Nintendo screwed the pooch after the Wii ...? How are they not an industry leader anymore??

[Captain Obvious]

I would like them to get out of the hardware business or stick strictly to handhelds. Buying a $300 console just to play Nintendo games in 2015 is an absurd idea.

The day Nintendo gets out of the hardware business is the day I lose respect for them. 

[wolfsite]

I am still having trouble understanding how Nintendo screwed the pooch after the Wii ...? How are they not an industry leader anymore??

 

With the Wii U they were hoping Lightning would strike twice but the casual consumer were confused by the name thinking it was just an add-on for the original Wii and were not buying it, they even had to do a marketing blitz pointing out that the Wii and Wii U were two separate consoles.

 

The more hardcore market didn't buy it since the Xbox One and PS4 were coming out about 18 months later with far superior tech so they, for the most part, decided to wait for those consoles.

 

Third issue is they lost third party support faster than on any other console since the N64 days.  Main reason being that the third parties didn't want to spend the extra money to port a game to the more unique hardware of the Wii U when they can port games between the Xbox One and PS4 on the cheap since the hardware is so similar.

 

Fourth issue is that they are still behind the curve in terms of online play which is now a big selling factor for games.

 

Fifth issue is how they handle there online presence as they are rather control heavy with there content in terms of lets players and youtubers, due to this a lot of them decide not to show Nintendo content which is hurting them since they are losing a lot of potential free advertising.  I know a lot of people are giving these people more weight than they really have but streaming is really becoming popular, especially with the younger generation and putting up barriers here can really hurt them in the future if the younger generation is brought up watching everything but Nintendo content on Streams.

 

Nintendo is still doing okay right know since there 1st party software is keeping them afloat (analysts predict they could have two more failed consoles before they are in any real danger) but they do need to get a new system out there that addresses all these issues.  This is coming from a Nintendo fan by the way.

[TheChris92]

Fifth issue is how they handle there online presence as they are rather control heavy with there content in terms of lets players and youtubers, due to this a lot of them decide not to show Nintendo content which is hurting them since they are losing a lot of potential free advertising.  I know a lot of people are giving these people more weight than they really have but streaming is really becoming popular, especially with the younger generation and putting up barriers here can really hurt them in the future if the younger generation is brought up watching everything but Nintendo content on Streams.

Actually they've started to come around in terms of Let's Plays on Youtube, but of course they want a bite out of the add revenue which is only fair, the way I see it anyway.

[wolfsite]

Actually they've started to come around in terms of Let's Plays on Youtube, but of course they want a bite out of the add revenue which is only fair, the way I see it anyway.

True they do have a right since it is there content, but many are still claiming it is unfair when other publishers take no revenue share.  So again a Youtuber is more inclined to put up content where they get more or all of the revenue generated over what Nintendo is taking.  Many also use the "It's free advertising" angle as why they shouldn't be taking anything at all.

[TheChris92]

True they do have a right since it is there content, but many are still claiming it is unfair when other publishers take no revenue share.  So again a Youtuber is more inclined to put up content where they get more or all of the revenue generated over what Nintendo is taking.  Many also use the "It's free advertising" angle as why they shouldn't be taking anything at all.

That argument would hold, if it wasn't the case that they are deliberately profitting from it, something which doesn't belong to them in the first place, thus Nintendo is in the right and they should just deal with it. Let's Play's is not a job profession -- The whole concept, much like a walkthrough, functions as a hobby, where people chooses to share their own opinion, helpful knowledge on a game to those who might be interested in such. It doesn't matter if Sony or Microsoft haven't done it, it doesn't make it less right for Nintendo to do it. These are the kind of people who feed on subscribers, platitudes and tired ass-kissing commentary "Oh mah god THIS GAME IS SO AMAZAAA -- Don't forget to subscribe by the way". The kind of expectant self-gratulating drivel that makes me want to play squash with my ears. 

 

Nintendo could have chosen not to share the profiting revenues with the Let's Players but they did -- I'd say that was a fair compromise, anyway.

[CrazyRah]

That argument would hold, if it wasn't the case that they are deliberately profitting from it, something which doesn't belong to them in the first place, thus Nintendo is in the right and they should just deal with it. Let's Play's is not a job profession -- The whole concept, much like a walkthrough, functions as a hobby, where people chooses to share their own opinion, helpful knowledge on a game to those who might be interested in such. It doesn't matter if Sony or Microsoft haven't done it, it doesn't make it less right for Nintendo to do it. These are the kind of people who feed on subscribers, platitudes and tired ass-kissing commentary "Oh mah god THIS GAME IS SO AMAZAAA -- Don't forget to subscribe by the way". The kind of expectant self-gratulating drivel that makes me want to play squash with my ears. 

 

Nintendo could have chosen not to share the profiting revenues with the Let's Players but they did -- I'd say that was a fair compromise, anyway.

 

Sorry but I can only disagree here. Do they earn money from it? Job

 

I've heard the same argument about e-sports that it's not a profession.. but a hobby and it was just as ridiculous then as it is now

[Riven326]

The day Nintendo gets out of the hardware business is the day I lose respect for them. 

Why?

[Zerc]

Nintendo's future you ask?.. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[TheChris92]

Sorry but I can only disagree here. Do they earn money from it? Job

 

I've heard the same argument about e-sports that it's not a profession.. but a hobby and it was just as ridiculous then as it is now

They get money through the add revenue -- It's not any more an actual profession than say.. buying and selling antiquities through e-bay.

Do you disagree with that?

 

EDIT: To add to my point, I suppose I should phrase it like this. Are you doing Let’s Play because you enjoy it, or are you doing Let’s Play because you think it’s an income source?