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[Cryos_Feron]

we all know that this game offers several exploits which in many cases even aren't bugs or anything.

 

For example reload-cancelling (imagine the claymore without reload cancelling!)

 

For example the tactical cloak which is only used for a split second - just to get the bonus

(no enemy would actually be hindered that much by that to justify this great bonus)

 

...

etc.

 

 

my point is,

the average player would not have discovered all of this without the community.

This makes me believe that Bioware has not intended that for the wider player base.

This makes me believe that those characters were balanced WITHOUT these exploits

which makes me believe that those characters (or guns) consequently are OP ?

 

Or what?

[nat in the hat]

Tldr

[Shampoohorn]

Reload cancelling is not an exploit. To understand this please reference the year 2003.

[Ghost Of N7_SP3CTR3]

Working as intended™

[PHOEN1XK1NG]

Working as intended™

My work here is done...

[Creator Limbs]

character...balance..?

 

This is BioWare. We don't believe in balance.

[Cryos_Feron]

Maybe "exploit" is the wrong word!

 

But well, I have made some "online-friends" through Mass Effect,

and none of them knew about reload-cancelling and all those other things.

 

So I really think that Bioware did not intend this for the wider player base. 

[Creator Limbs]

No, they didn't intend this for noobs.

[EbonyBrotherhood]

Get Gud or Go Home. GGGH for short.

[smeckie]

The bigger problem than the reload cancel exploiters is the right-hand advantage cheaters.

[Lux Caelum]

Of course it is not intended for noobs. It is marketing trick, they give you something to learn over time, it gives you illusion of progress and being good at the game. All of that makes you stick around and play even more.

Same goes for RNG store. That makes you spend money on BW points, or do speedruns (which contributes towards game's statistics)

[DarkOrgasm]

Well to be honest, once MP was released theses forums were so busy at times, you would have a post be buried on the 2nd page within secs or a minute of posting, a large portion of the player base back then were all on the forums and if not posting were aware of all the changes and clamored for more changes, nerfs etc. It was a constant war between the the side who asked for balance(nerf bats!) and those who didnt( OP all the way baby!) good players simply adjusted to what was balanced

 

If a noob stuck with playing MP, they soon found out what the changes were...but now with most new players just picking it up in the dust bin and playing without knowing nothing...unless they happen to find this place

 

and then the pyramid posts started...

[Ghost Of N7_SP3CTR3]

Don't forget about removing the Cobra Rocket Launcher.Damn cheaters.

[DarkOrgasm]

Don't forget about removing the Cobra Rocket Launcher.Damn cheaters.

Ha I always hide that damn thing so ugly

[Shampoohorn]

Don't forget about removing the Cobra Rocket Launcher.Damn cheaters.

 

Reported...

 

 

Ha I always hide that damn thing so ugly

 

... and

 

[smeckie]

Ha I always hide that damn thing so ugly

CHEATER!

[Creator Limbs]

Of course it is not intended for noobs. It is marketing trick, they give you something to learn over time, it gives you illusion of progress and being good at the game. All of that makes you stick around and play even more.

Same goes for RNG store. That makes you spend money on BW points, or do speedruns (which contributes towards game's statistics)

 

GOD NO, NOT THE STATISTICS!

[PatrickBateman]

I'm fairly certain that are lots of good players around that never have read a single post on BSN....

[Cyonan]

A lot of non BSNers are going to figure out about things like Reload Cancelling, Tactical Cloak, or even things like Incendiary Rounds on their own.

 

They may not fully understand the mechanics behind everything and why it happens, but they'll understand that it works and that it's powerful. Hell, this will even happen with some people on the BSN as they just skim past all the math in the threads that get created about mechanics.

 

What I would like to see for the next Mass Effect though is better documentation. I don't see why they shouldn't mention that Biotic Charge grants 50% damage reduction for 4 seconds for example. A lot of people probably don't know about it, even though everybody benefits from it.

 

The game was never intended to be balanced around the most knowledgeable players, though. It seems a bit silly to do that for a co-op game where balancing around the majority of players will suffice, unless you want to separate rate of earning credits from the difficulty that you're playing on.

[DarkOrgasm]

Reported...

 

 

 

... and

 

so if these 2 show up in my lobby I should hide the pickle er cobra?

[Turian Master Race]

OP the answer to your question is ... tech armour.

[Geth Master Race]

LOL conspiracy thread.

[acicm2]

we all know that this game offers several exploits which in many cases even aren't bugs or anything.
 
For example reload-cancelling (imagine the claymore without reload cancelling!)
 
For example the tactical cloak which is only used for a split second - just to get the bonus
(no enemy would actually be hindered that much by that to justify this great bonus)
 
...
etc.
 
 
my point is,
the average player would not have discovered all of this without the community.
This makes me believe that Bioware has not intended that for the wider player base.
This makes me believe that those characters were balanced WITHOUT these exploits
which makes me believe that those characters (or guns) consequently are OP ?
 
Or what?

 

[LuckyStarr]

Reload cancelling is not an exploit. To understand this please reference the year 2003.

It's a bug in the game engine, plain and simple. One no one bothered to fix.

[Lux Caelum]

It's a bug in the game engine, plain and simple. One no one bothered to fix.

 

 

Yeah, right.

 

Guns are one of the most liked parts in this game. Imagine how many guns would be vented out of the airlock if there was no reload cancel. Shotguns, sniper rifles, some assault rifles... 'Fixing' that would be like doing Krysae nerf to most of the weapons. Which would significantly reduced player base.

Reload canceling is intended. Prof is in the delay before actual reload, that is how fire rate is balanced.