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Can we please not be a religious figure of any sort again?


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I never realized how annoying it was to try and roleplay a Creator worshipping Dalish or a Stone believing dwarf or an atheist Vashoth until I tried recently. I can pretty much shout my lack of faith in Andraste from the rooftops and everyone still insists I'm the Herald anyway, its like everything I say goes in one ear and out the other of everyone listening. 

 

Can we go back to a Hawke sort of person again? I miss my kind of irrelevant small fry guy


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ONLY THE TRUE MESSIAH DENIES HIS DIVINITY


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I echo Dean the Young's sentiment of wanting us to actually be a divine figure, or at least a figure whom divinity is ascribed to



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I agree. Either that or add the option where your character can say: "The next person that calls me 'Herald' is going to get shot/stabbed/their face scorched off". The best we could settle for was a Dalish Inquisitor telling Sera to shut up about the Creators being demons and even that was weak at best


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I recall Blackwall acknowledging that it could be just false, but he also pointed out the simple reality of this.

People needed this symbol in order to keep up hope. Kinda like Batman.
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I recall Blackwall acknowledging that it could be just false, but he also pointed out the simple reality of this.

People needed this symbol in order to keep up hope. Kinda like Batman.

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The PC in a Dragon Age game is always a religious figure. 

 

They've all been patron saints of solving other peoples problems. Haven't you caught that by now. 


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This was actually one of my favorite things about the game! I loved how if you played your quizzy as very devout they got new dialogue options too. The little speech they give the Templars was amazing.

 

Maybe if was the powertrip, but I always got a kick out of being called "Your Worship".

 

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I enjoy the sights of humans on their knees.



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I thought it was handled decently, with my Inquisitor talking about believing in the elven gods and that she was Dalish and not having this Herald stuff. Mother Giselle is pretty cool about this and Josephine also gives you pointers on utilizing what people believe even if you don't (though not in a manipulative fashion, just staying quiet enough to let people talk).

 

There were enough options to preserve her Dalish identity (until, you know, it came time to question such things) and still play the political figure she needed to be at times, especially earlier when the need to gain support was so vital.


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I would have preferred to be a person of lesser importance either way. I didn't like the "holy chosen one/king equivalent" thing, especially since we never command armies or make large decisions and basically act as a small task force anyway.


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I never realized how annoying it was to try and roleplay a Creator worshipping Dalish or a Stone believing dwarf or an atheist Vashoth until I tried recently. I can pretty much shout my lack of faith in Andraste from the rooftops and everyone still insists I'm the Herald anyway, its like everything I say goes in one ear and out the other of everyone listening. 

 

Can we go back to a Hawke sort of person again? I miss my kind of irrelevant small fry guy

 

People expect the game to cater to their whims as if they were divine already, why not just embrace the full package? 


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I agree with this. I want the option to go Atheist, or Agnostic, or... I can't think of any other names but I want the option, and I want that to actually be shown in game, whilst I'm running around mopping up corpses and not by one string of dialogue that means nothing. 

 

I enjoy the sights of humans on their knees.

 

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I never realized how annoying it was to try and roleplay a Creator worshipping Dalish or a Stone believing dwarf or an atheist Vashoth until I tried recently. I can pretty much shout my lack of faith in Andraste from the rooftops and everyone still insists I'm the Herald anyway, its like everything I say goes in one ear and out the other of everyone listening. 

 

Can we go back to a Hawke sort of person again? I miss my kind of irrelevant small fry guy

 

Agree completely. Found it incredibly frustrating that there was no reactivity to your refusal to accept being Andraste's herald.

Very much don't want a religious setting for future games.



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Or this  :lol: . Felt like this most of the game.

 


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ONLY THE TRUE MESSIAH DENIES HIS DIVINITY

 

This sum up my DAI experience in a nutshell as well. Geez, you Andrastian are crazy.

 

(Full credit to SorcererDave)


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While I think DAI handled the faith theme well overall, and I don't feel I'm forced into Andrastianism as my Inquisitor's personal belief, I agree that it was annoying that almost everyone ignored this and I couldn't give my Inquisition a less religious aspect. In the end, we end up supporting Andrastianism through our actions regardless of our Inquisitors' personal beliefs, and that is most annoying of all. I do not want to support any of the existing religious or political ideologies as they are.


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If only I could play a militant atheist.

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I didn't like how almost everyone seemed to ignore my character's atheism as well. If you go religous, I understand there's a more defined and recognized path (wtih new dialogue options?), which I don't know, since I never go there in any of my pts. I encounter and fend off enough religious bullsh*t in real life, I like to pretend DA universe is not so thoroughly enslaved to religion. By that I mean I'm aware how this fantasy setting (it's not a fkn medieval setting) is heavy on religion, it's just that people seem to be generally smarter in DA as a whole compared to reality.

 

Anyway, as I was saying, I would like to have that option for a character rped as atheist. As in options to talk about how the "gods" are not really gods but powerful beings, more dialogue maybe with your war council about how to utilize the public perception to your advantage even if you don't believe you are the herald (which is not even touched upon in dialogue even after the reveals at the temple...  :huh: a "so you were right... you aren't the divine herald" would have been nice lol), etc. I understand how this could be interpreted as too nuanced, but I do feel a bit of lack of balance, that favors a playthrough roleplaying a religious character over one with an atheist character. And that bothers me.

 

Overall I'm ok with how they handled it. You get enough moments to deny being the herald and point out you are atheist, that I can consider the matter handled decently. In terms of preference I would have liked a bit more to the no religion path. Hoepfully future dlc will have that. (I refuse to say future DA games... we haven't even got dlc for this one and people talk about DA4... wtf... lol).

 

Also, this is almost exclusively a small issue for DAI, in my opinion. The previous games, while heavy on religion, didn't put you in a spot quite like this on the matter.



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For me it is not just the change to deny adrastian faith by your pc, but it is also about recognizing it. Even your LI spouts religious crap in the sack (looking at you Cass). It definitely has a strong Life of Brian kind effect when everything you say gets brushed away and then the bowing begins again. Not cool.


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I kind of enjoyed playing a pious Herald. My character was a well-to-do human female, so it made sense to me that she'd be religious. Plus, it gave me an arc of sorts where I spent the first section of the game in doubt over my alleged divinity, but after the battle of Haven, I decided to roll with it. You could easily do it the other way around, too; spend the first half of the game thinking you're Andraste's chosen, then see the vision in the Fade and realise it was all dumb luck.

 

At least if you chose to go atheist, most of the characters adopt a policy of "let's just pretend otherwise, it's better for PR". Kind of annoying, but these are the sacrifices we must make as leader of an influential religious organisation.


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I think the most annoying part , is that during those 'Preview' we had . They said we can Decline the Title . But it really doesn't matter if you say it a hundred time you are not the chosen one , the Herald !! everyone think you are ! and no matter what (since there are no action to turn that Title into something else)...you still be called that . So much for many wheel choices..... <_<



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I didn't like how almost everyone seemed to ignore my character's atheism as well. If you go religous, I understand there's a more defined and recognized path (wtih new dialogue options?), which I don't know, since I never go there in any of my pts. I encounter and fend off enough religious bullsh*t in real life, I like to pretend DA universe is not so thoroughly enslaved to religion. By that I mean I'm aware how this fantasy setting (it's not a fkn medieval setting) is heavy on religion, it's just that people seem to be generally smarter in DA as a whole compared to reality.

 

 

I think if you've denied your belief completely then you get a special dialogue option at the end battle with Corypheus to tell him you don't believe in gods. That's one thing I've heard, but haven't tested myself yet since I have two Dalish Inquisitors that believe in their own systems.