Constructive criticism FTW!!
We all have those characters. Get me started on Anders or DA:I Leliana... I waiver back and forth on wishing the Warden would show up and remind Leliana of who she is and just wanting to put an arrow through her and let her out of her misery. I don't like to have to always her from murdering the crap out of people.
Well she did just tip you off about a conspiracy that was planning on killing you. Do you really need more on the spot justification than that? Personally I have a harder time rationalizing keeping her around after she killed that noble. Luckily I found out you could avoid that bit so it's good.
Sera is abit crazy, and sometimes to much for me. At the same time i like how she deals with every day life and her perspective of whats normal. She wants to get everything back to normal so she can go play. That is her motivation, it is childish, but its still honorable. Though most scenes with her i feel like i have to educate a child, which i like. I work with children in real life, so win win. I love some of her scenes though, atleast "Us cookies". She is infurating, but at the same time sweet.
We all have those characters. Get me started on Anders or DA:I Leliana... I waiver back and forth on wishing the Warden would show up and remind Leliana of who she is and just wanting to put an arrow through her and let her out of her misery. I don't like to have to always her from murdering the crap out of people.
True, we have characters that annoy us for whatever reason. But those characters will always have a passionate fanbase that see them completely differently, so it's nice to try and be a bit constructive, no? (Every time I type "no" at the end of a sentence, I imagine Leliana saying it... 
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I don't think there has ever been a character that BioWare has written that has been that truly, 100% irredeemably awful. Well, except Diana Allers...But even then, I'd try and engage with her fanbase in a non-insulting way.
Zevran, too, but I needed an assassin, not a bard. I would have killed him if I hadn't wanted his sneak capabilities. Sera is barely used by me because she's a dick about elves and a dick about Cole, and since I have Varric I don't need another archer.
She's cute though. I like the pranks.
Cute's not the word. Slappable is. But like you said, we all do have those characters we hate.
I guess her warning you is justification, but she's immature, irritating, and childish. Beyond warning you I wouldn't personally think she'd have anything else worth bringing to the table. Pay her for warning you then move on.
Cute's not the word. Slappable is.
Cute and slappable are not necessarily mutually exclusive. Just ask Zev, Isabela or Bull... 
You can disagree with her actions all throughout the noble quest, though...? I haven't played the scene in a while so I'm rusty on exactly what the IQ says when she goes ahead and kills him, but you can tell her off I think, IIRC.
i think you clearly can. You can tell her to never do that again, hell even kick her out. So, compared to others, you actually have the power to do almost anything with her instead of, i don't know..... Vivienne, who stays there insulting your inquisitor and said quizzy doesn't even have the power to kick her out or call out on her even.
Same for other companions. I'll never understand why bw never gave us the choice to call out others or kick them out anytime we want.
But that was part of the problem, you can call her out but only in one quest, but when it comes to her views of magic, the Dalish or other elves, you aren't given any chance to disagree or present your side of the argument? Of course, that's not just limited to her, it'd have been nice to call out the others from time to time, especially Vivienne's holier-than-thou attitude when it comes to other mages?
But that was part of the problem, you can call her out but only in one quest, but when it comes to her views of magic, the Dalish or other elves, you aren't given any chance to disagree or present your side of the argument? Of course, that's not just limited to her, it'd have been nice to call out the others from time to time, especially Vivienne's holier-than-thou attitude when it comes to other mages?
Yes, I agree there. That's not a Sera-specific issue though to be fair. Being able to call her out might have actually given her a little more room for character development if they wrote it well enough. I really wanted to shout at Viv sometimes for her endless preaching. 
True, we have characters that annoy us for whatever reason. But those characters will always have a passionate fanbase that see them completely differently, so it's nice to try and be a bit constructive, no? (Every time I type "no" at the end of a sentence, I imagine Leliana saying it...
I don't think there has ever been a character that BioWare has written that has been that truly, 100% irredeemably awful. Well, except Diana Allers...But even then, I'd try and engage with her fanbase in a non-insulting way.
In addition to slapping Anders I'd like to slap the writers because Anders in DA:A would not have done this.
I swear, sometimes I think we need the Warden to come back and knock some **** sense into these characters. She would never have allowed Anders to get that far and Leliana would not have gone batshit crazy with the Warden around.
I also miss having more sarcastic "blow me" type of dialogue for my character. The Warden could flat out tell people to stop whining.
In addition to slapping Anders I'd like to slap the writers because Anders in DA:A would not have done this.
I swear, sometimes I think we need the Warden to come back and knock some **** sense into these characters. She would never have allowed Anders to get that far and Leliana would not have gone batshit crazy with the Warden around.
I also miss having more sarcastic "blow me" type of dialogue for my character. The Warden could flat out tell people to stop whining.
The Warden would set them all straight! She's going to be very upset by a hardened Leliana if it happens (I'm tempted to do it on one of my playthroughs, for variety. It will never be headcanon though.) And Anders would have gotten some kick up the a**!
Yes, I agree there. That's not a Sera-specific issue though to be fair. Being able to call her out might have actually given her a little more room for character development if they wrote it well enough. I really wanted to shout at Viv sometimes for her endless preaching.
I think that's what bothered me about Sera and Vivienne, neither of them had any kind of real character arc in the entire game, unlike everyone else? Sera never develops at all, while Vivienne gets that side-quest about Bastien that is has so little build-up or relevance beforehand, that you'd barely notice the vague allusions to him earlier in the game or his illness if you weren't paying attention?
I do like their characters and thought they were written well, I just wish we'd had more from them?
In DA2, every companion had a side quest in each act that allowed you to see more of them and served to develop their characters, with plot-threads running from one to another? But in DAI, we had one fetch quest and one side quest and that was it? I never got to know these guys half as much as I felt like I should? That'd been a fine amount if this was still Origins, but after DA2, it felt like a huge step backwards in companion content?
In addition to slapping Anders I'd like to slap the writers because Anders in DA:A would not have done this.
I swear, sometimes I think we need the Warden to come back and knock some **** sense into these characters. She would never have allowed Anders to get that far and Leliana would not have gone batshit crazy with the Warden around.
I also miss having more sarcastic "blow me" type of dialogue for my character. The Warden could flat out tell people to stop whining.
My Hero of Ferelden would have either helped Anders or tried to steer him towards a more effective target. As for Leliana... well, I don't think she's that crazy.
I think that's what bothered me about Sera and Vivienne, neither of them had any kind of real character arc in the entire game, unlike everyone else? Sera never develops at all, while Vivienne gets that side-quest that is has so little build-up or relevance beforehand, that you'd barely notice the vague allusions to him earlier in the game or his illness if you weren't paying attention?
I do like their characters and thought they were written well, I just wish we'd had more from them?
In DA2, every companion had a side quest in each act that allowed you to see more of them and served to develop their characters, with plot-threads running from one to another? But in DAI, we had one fetch quest and one side quest and that was it? I never got to know these guys half as much as I felt like I should? That'd been a fine amount if this was still Origins, but after DA2, it felt like a huge step backwards in companion content?
Yes, the way DAI handled companions was... pretty damn awful, really.
I'm just trying to realistically role-play here, but hit a brick wall every time I meet her.
Thanks.
While I see how this can give you an idea of the mind of Sera, I'm really just talking here about the very first encounter with her. Just that alone and nothing else, leaves little reason to have her join IMO, though I know that by design the devs wanted you to have her join.
She tells you right then and there that she's part of a network of spies, thieves, and informants. If you're roleplaying a character that is actually taking the issue of the Breach as a life or death catastrophe with a time limit, and is actually trying to seize all the power and influence that they possibly can in order to save the entire world, then that's enough of a reason to accept her regardless of your estimation of her personal tendencies.
Both Sera and Vivienne's companion missions felt painfully short...I think they got the worst of it but in general DAI companion stories were definitely not as good as DA2.
No, they definitely weren't. But then OTOH, DA2 had a more small scale, TV Serial feel to it - it was very much a companion centered story, rather than "apocalypse incoming - quick, let's go pick some flowers!" 
Sera and Viv did indeed get the short end of the stick, which is unfortunate as they are possibly the hardest characters to connect with.
Both Sera and Vivienne's companion missions felt painfully short...I think they got the worst of it but in general DAI companion stories were definitely not as good as DA2.
We're saying this before a likely batch of DLC hit between May and next Christmas.
Both Sera and Vivienne's companion missions felt painfully short...I think they got the worst of it but in general DAI companion stories were definitely not as good as DA2.
Agreed. They were basically interactive cutscenes. I felt they were tacked on last-minute. Nothing compared to ME2's loyalty missions and DA2's companion quests.
Also luv the new avi! 
We're saying this before a likely batch of DLC hit between May and next Christmas.
A Sera-centered DLC...I can see the internet's reaction now. 
A Sera-centered DLC...I can see the internet's reaction now.
Possibly, possibly! I think Solas will be first but I can see some DLC that centers on other characters or a combination of them. I think we'll at least get two by next year but I would not be surprised if we got more (along with the additional weapon/armor sets).
Sera is one of those characters that feels "forced" to me. Where you're supposed to love her or something and in a way, Bull, too.
I don't love or hate them. I'm just "meh".
Dorian was fleshed out, rounded, and tugs at your heart. Cole adds something "needed" but I'm not sure if I have the words yet. Cassandra is the push your group requires but I'm not in love with the others besides Varric and really because of DA2. They cut him short on this one.
Blackwall I like for appearance sake. BEARD, but again...I'm not feeling it.
I guess I look at my DA:O cast where I loved everyone in it and DA2 where I loved everyone but Merrill (same thing I was SUPPOSED to love her--no, no i didn't love her)...meh.
We're saying this before a likely batch of DLC hit between May and next Christmas.
Citadel-style DLC.
MAKE IT HAPPEN PATRICK
Welp, if anything else, Sera is worth keeping around because she happens to make an good dragon hunter.
Many things in DAI was not make sense if not stupid, and many companions of our Inquisitor not make sense as Inquisitor companions at all, only as agents but no more....companions was mean to be our main circle, people who have power and ifluence, who represent some major and valuable groups not a random peoples from streets.
i am not understand why we do not have option to punish-execute them(exсept only Blackwall what would be executed not by us and not because of our choice to execute him) because in many situation we have any right to do this, but still we cant
Vivienne-noone who represent herself only, and some ultra loyal pro Chantry mages, it was make more sense to have Fiona or someone else from rebelion mages who join to us.
Dorian-(he especially was not make sense on templars path)exile from tevinter, who even was never a magister, the whole situations with him especially his "drama", was pathetic and not make sense, it was outplay
Blackwall-we hire him as a high ranking officer of grey wardens but for nothing, he does not give anything for us and he is no warden(what was too obvious from the beginning and look stupid considerate our spies) at all, and was a simple killer....it was make sense if we have a Stroud or other warden officer as companion
Sera-she is no one, have nothing useful, and she is even act to us like we are some peasant buddy
Cole-weak crazy demon without any use, and with mindless and lore breaker powers who work on Seeker Cassandra, Solas and Inquisitor, especially in place like Skyhold for no reason
Even from our advisors exept only Leliana who was a Orlais Chantry Divine hand(but we have devs promise that our organisations will not be connected to Orlais Chantry, so she and Cassandra is no use for us and as with herald of andraste title....it was understandable if the have them when we was a pro CHantry and Templars Inquisitor) was make sense
Cullen as a "Kirkwall hero" and our military advisor, and general is a joke considerate who he was, what he is doing as and what he was done...he do nothing good and nothing right and he was a dumb and weak warrior and especially as an officer....he was retconed as a Anders from DAO-A.
Josephine is just Lelianna friend so this is the same as with Lellianna, anyone especially varrick make more sense to do her mostly useless job
we was just forced to do many things and have some people, mostly for nothing except to watch hear and sense their own atmosphere? it was make more sense for DA2 with hawke in city but sure not in DAI about Inquisition and real problems
I neither dislike Sera or like her. She has moments but she's not written as well as Dorian or anyone in DA:O, for that matter. I guess it's too much to ask for a cast that I love, love, love.
If you're going to give me a lesbian love interest can't we have a Shane? Like someone that can pull you across the street?
btw, i need her hair. I'm almost thinking of cutting it myself.
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