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[SofaJockey]

your example has no logic... I give you other example to think of

 

lets say you are 4% shareholder of a company, now you start whining that you want same rights as the other owner who happens to have 96%, now tell me what happens?

 

a)nothing cos you don't know what's a shareholder (don't confuse with cup holder/bearer)

b)you happen to be lover of this second shareholder so s/he do whatever you "persuade" her/him to

c)you get slapped across face and would be told to stfu, then in a month a beneficial party would be made in your name and some useless charity organization of your choosing would get a minor donation

d)the other owner happens to be retarded and s/he accept your premise that you should be equals cos both of you holds a share in the same company

 

On the contrary, your example is ridiculous.

We are discussing different people's ability to play a game, not a business soap opera.

 

If a company offers gameplay to different people then all those people require equivalent content.

As these different options are gated behind dialogue, no-one's enjoyment has been compromised because of branching gameplay they choose not to select.

 

The only basis for being offended by that, is to argue that your gameplay is more important that someone else's gameplay, which of course is not the case.

 

I trust this makes my point more understandable because I'm struggling to explain it any more simply.

[Winged Silver]

Once again, somebody pretending to speak for ALL players 

 

1. I happen to really like ME3, a great game, true not as good as ME2 but still great, and the multiplayer had me hooked for 2 years!
2. I've never played "Origins" as DAI is my first DA game. I'm really glad I've not played DAO as I actually really like DAI - on my second play through now.
3. Cassandra looks likes a Warrior!  I don't want her to look like a barbie doll.

I've you don't like these games just *** off and let those of us who enjoy them just get on with it 

 

I think he just got banned, so I wouldn't worry too much XD 

 

I've enjoyed all three DA games - they all bring something new to the table. If the older graphics and silent PC aren't a huge turn off, I'd consider playing them all in order. Enriches the experience, in my opinion

 

I agree with your other points as well, but wanted to comment on the second one

[jeromefiefdom]

I think he just got banned, so I wouldn't worry too much XD 

 

 

And no one could be happier

[Zobert]

[daveliam]

<snip>

 

But it ends happily because Gretchen gets to wear those really expensive white gold hoops when she's serving her new "cool asian" Queen Bee at the end of the movie, right?

[Zobert]

But it ends happily because Gretchen gets to wear those really expensive white gold hoops when she's serving her new "cool asian" Queen Bee at the end of the movie, right?

 

I love you.

[theflyingzamboni]

 

IMO you guys should just quit while you're ahead.  You gave us great games like dragon age origins, dragon age 2, mass effect 1 & 2, kotor 1, baldurs gate.

 

 Dragon age should've stopped at origins, everyone knows this. It took two disasters for mr. gaider to realize that he needs to stop.

 

Self-contradiction: -8/10 troll points

Final troll score: 2/10

Would not bang, would not recommend thread to friends

[DarkKnightHolmes]

What the.... DAI is miles better than DA2 and ME3.

[daveliam]

Frankly, I think ME 2 is pretty damned overrated as well.  It's one of my least favorite Bioware games of all time.

[The Qun & the Damned]

My dear, you failed so hard that Natalia Kills stillborn and barely there career is laughing at you.

[Zobert]

It blows my mind that people are saying DA2 is a masterpiece now when it was SUCH a hated game when it came out. When the next game comes out people will say Inquisition is amazing. For the record, I love all three. Just because YOU don't like the game doesn't mean it should end for everyone. I don't know why Cassandra's appearance/romance should be the deciding factor of whether you like the game or not. I hated Anders from DA2 but that didn't stop me from enjoying the game.

 

People hated the lack of scenery changes but they liked the story and characters.

 

 

 

The thing is that I don't think there is anything wrong with the OP saying it sucked because of Cassandra anymore than someone saying that the meal sucked because someone put in too much rosemary.

 

I may like the herb rosemary.  I may like Cassandra.  However, it is quite possible to not like a meal because of one tiny element that throws it off for you and the same with a character. 

 

None of us know what that guy's life is like.  He may not be able to get a date and games may be his "social life".  I'm not judging anyone for what they want or for being a ****** because they didn't get it. 

 

I put down the GoT series and hated hated hated the author for killing Ygritte.  Nothing else matter in all the thick books, no other character.

 

It happens.

[Nimlowyn]

I like threads like these because they show me how reasonable most people are. 

[Meave]

On the contrary, your example is ridiculous.

We are discussing different people's ability to play a game, not a business soap opera.

 

pff you can't possibly believe what you wrote.

 

in a golf game rules are set for players. There is no rule that would say that left hand players are in advantage/disadvantage. The only difference is that left handed need special equipment. If you don't like standard equipment provided by club bring your own...

 

the same if a child is on special diet schools are not obligated to provide it. Bring your own food and they'll warm it up on launch

 

next thing we know you gonna ask for gay relationships in children stories - one get Cindarela and the other gets Snow white (there won't be prind kissing her but princess), in Shrek you toss a coin and if you win, Shrek would pursue prince Charming, if you lose the cat (whatshisname) would pursue tomcat instead of kitty...

 

now that's what I call ridiculous, but if there were 50% lgbt population that's what it would look like.

[SofaJockey]

pff you can't possibly believe what you wrote.

 

in a golf game rules are set for players. There is no rule that would say that left hand players are in advantage/disadvantage. The only difference is that left handed need special equipment. If you don't like standard equipment provided by club bring your own...

 

This is exactly why you fail to understand, and I'll stick with the golf for a moment.

 

Left handed people do not need 'special equipment', it's just that they swing the other way.

'Standard equipment' is not just right-handed golf clubs, left-handed golf clubs are also 'standard equipment', just for left handers.

 

Once people stop treating left-handed people as sinister, the world becomes a much better place and everyone can play golf.

 

It's not long (and it still happens) since people tried to force left-handers to be right-handed, as if it's some kind of choice.

 

Just because there are more right-handed golfers in the population does not mean left handed golfers cannot get a game or should play with sub-optimal or reduced equipment.

 

And while you clearly disagree, please stop dismissing what it is possible for me to believe .

Your inability to conceive that your position is archaic is what is making this discussion so difficult.

[Meave]

This is exactly why you fail to understand, and I'll stick with the golf for a moment.

 

Left handed people do not need 'special equipment', it's just that they swing the other way.

'Standard equipment' is not just right-handed golf clubs, left-handed golf clubs are also 'standard equipment', just for left handers.

 

Once people stop treating left-handed people as sinister, the world becomes a much better place and everyone can play golf.

 

It's not long (and it still happens) since people tried to force left-handers to be right-handed, as if it's some kind of choice.

 

Just because there are more right-handed golfers in the population does not mean left handed golfers cannot get a game or should play with sub-optimal or reduced equipment.

 

And while you clearly disagree, please stop dismissing what it is possible for me to believe .

Your inability to conceive that your position is archaic is what is making this discussion so difficult.

 

... your argumentation lacks logic yet again and even on larger scale. No one is preventing left handers from playing golf, rules are the same for every player regardless of their orientation or beliefs. You can still play the game even with standard (which means most common if you didn't know and no it's not discriminating word) golf clubs. I yet have to hear someone saying "I am not playing with you cos you're left handed". You're comparing two aspects here. Homosexuals have the same human/civic rights as heterosexuals and no one is denying that. But you can't call for equality in social aspects of society and claim 50(or whatever)% share of customs and demand that majority of people would adapt, same as no one can expect having their church/mosque/buddhist temple/whatever other religion has in every village and town only cos there already is christian church. It always was and it always would be that the minority has to adapt and you can't be angry at the majority that they don't have the same point of view as they do. And why? cos they're part of minority (which means much more people thinks different as they do) and not the other way around...

[SofaJockey]

* snip *

 

I'm clearly not going to succeed enlightening your thinking.

Time to stop trying.

[Meave]

I'm clearly not going to succeed enlightening your thinking.

Time to stop trying.

 

well it seems that you run out of arguments so if any enlightening happened it was on your account. No need to thank me, happy to help...

[SofaJockey]

well it seems that you run out of arguments so if any enlightening happened it was on your account. No need to thank me, happy to help...

 

No, you failed to have the comprehension to understand the arguments already presented.

There is no basis for any happiness here.

[Zobert]

It's a game.  Does it matter if in the game 50% of Thedas is gay?  What if 90%  of Thedas was gay and 10% where straight or whatever.  It's a game.  No one is making anyone gay in real life, no one is forcing anyone to play the game. 

 

I see and think it's fine to be upset that the game you love doesn't have the options you want.  It's fine to ask Bioware for better options.  It's even fine to say you'll never buy another Bioware game because of it.

 

I don't think it's fine to say that if it doesn't it's unfair to you when no one forces you to buy the game.  At this point anyone who doesn't know that the Bioware game is going to be heavy GLBT represented is just a poor consumer.

 

Just go play Witcher.