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[DaemionMoadrin]

Ashamed to play something? In a game I play for fun? Yeah, right.

 

+1

 

Yeah, let's not play 1/6 of the available kits because of... reasons. Nonsense. ^^

[Schlave]

i think OP has a point which didn't come across well in his initial question..

 

which is that infiltrators are pretty much selfish kits that are not meant to complement any team.

 

it's a fact that the kit is pretty much designed to maximise damage output and benefit the player while hurting the team.

 

now, aggro dump isn't so bad when everyone is holding a position and firing in the same general direction.

 

but when a banshee flanks you guys and he melts away to let you get grabbed? come on, I'm sure even those saying "l2p" have been there as well..

 

or they go to the other side of the map taking free potshots.. and spawn enemies on top of the rest. i can't thank infils who run in to rez me when a sync killing enemy is nearby either.

 

i keep things simple (nowadays I play mostly plat).. I just don't play in games with 1 infiltrator too many. 1 infil is ok, 2 depends on what infil (2x high ranking AIUs with powerful shotguns, or 2x high ranking infils with high level UR sniper rifles.. instant quit cuz it's boring). 3 infils.. well I might stick around to see the carnage if they're sufficiently noob.

 

look, I don't hate the ppl who choose to play infil. i just don't like the class personally because I play multiplayer for a team experience.

[J. Peterman]

Play whatever you want, except snap freeze and flamer kits. Also recon mine ones and anyone using the Venom.

[RustyBuckets02]

Play whatever you want, except snap freeze and flamer kits. Also recon mine ones and anyone using the Venom.

My one regret is there was never a way to combine all of these at once. For scientific reasons obviously.

[Geth Master Race]

Play whatever you want, except  especially snap freeze and flamer kits. Also recon mine ones and anyone using the Venom.

fixed

[Deerber]

My one regret is there was never a way to combine all of these at once. For scientific reasons obviously.

Well... There is on PC... But obviously you'd have to buy that scrub one first, before feeling the wonderful pleasure...

[DaemionMoadrin]

My one regret is there was never a way to combine all of these at once. For scientific reasons obviously.

 

Yeah, we totally need an engineer class with Flamer, Snap Freeze and Recon Mine. Wielding a Venom. And the rest of the team are all snipers.

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

My one regret is there was never a way to combine all of these at once. For scientific reasons obviously.

Next time we can put a game together, we need to have a Paladin, an AIU, a Flamer GT, and a DAI, all with Venoms. We have to do it. For science.

[David Diablo]

Next time we can put a game together, we need to have a Paladin, an AIU, a Flamer GT, and a DAI, all with Venoms. We have to do it. For science.

 

I wouldn't mind participating in that colossal scrubiness! 

[Schlave]

Next time we can put a game together, we need to have a Paladin, an AIU, a Flamer GT, and a DAI, all with Venoms. We have to do it. For science.

But it would have to be vs. Cerberus, just so we can see dragoons fly.

[Terminator Force]

I usually run incindiary with my biotics. You get the fire explosion stagger/damage and then the biotic stagger/damage right after. Great for crowd control and general pimp-handing

 

When I played with you & IndraOneSeven yesterday, my second last character to play as was supposed to be the Shadow. But then I seen we already had an Infiltrator + this topic still fresh in my head and that made me switch to Cabal. Could this move on my behalf be considered courteous?

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

which is that infiltrators are pretty much selfish kits that are not meant to complement any team.

 

Wow. Even I have to say "L2P." I don't think I've ever told anyone that, before.

 

it's a fact that the kit is pretty much designed to maximise damage output and benefit the player while hurting the team.

 

I don't think the word "fact" means what you think it means.

[D-Rock0713]

i think OP has a point which didn't come across well in his initial question..
 
which is that infiltrators are pretty much selfish kits that are not meant to complement any team.
 
it's a fact that the kit is pretty much designed to maximise damage output and benefit the player while hurting the team.
 
now, aggro dump isn't so bad when everyone is holding a position and firing in the same general direction.
 
but when a banshee flanks you guys and he melts away to let you get grabbed? come on, I'm sure even those saying "l2p" have been there as well..
 
or they go to the other side of the map taking free potshots.. and spawn enemies on top of the rest. i can't thank infils who run in to rez me when a sync killing enemy is nearby either.
 
i keep things simple (nowadays I play mostly plat).. I just don't play in games with 1 infiltrator too many. 1 infil is ok, 2 depends on what infil (2x high ranking AIUs with powerful shotguns, or 2x high ranking infils with high level UR sniper rifles.. instant quit cuz it's boring). 3 infils.. well I might stick around to see the carnage if they're sufficiently noob.
 
look, I don't hate the ppl who choose to play infil. i just don't like the class personally because I play multiplayer for a team experience.

I think I'd have to disagree in saying they don't compliment a team. I guess it depends on which infiltrator is being used. The Huntress would compliment a biotic team, the Salarian would help with tech explosions and debuff, etc..

[q5tyhj]

i think OP has a point which didn't come across well in his initial question..

 

which is that infiltrators are pretty much selfish kits that are not meant to complement any team.

Well except by killing stuff, obviously- sort of the ultimate complement to a team in a coop game whose primary objective/goal is... killing stuff.

 

 

it's a fact that the kit is pretty much designed to maximise damage output and benefit the player while hurting the team.

Those are mutually exclusive, so which is it- do they maximize damage output, or hurt the team? Can't be both; if you're maximizing damage output on this game, you're helping your team, more or less by definition.  

[Terminator Force]

I think we need Clyde to accept another challenge; Has to play as a Fury without Dark Channel and with only Shadow spamming Electric Strike under duration and bonus power cloak as his other players. Full voice chat commentary welcomed.

[Cryos_Feron]

Mostly due to agro dump. As in lets say you have a Fury on Condor and your entire team are tac-cloak spamming winfiltrators. That Fury is going to have a bad day.

I'm just saying as lately I've developed some sort of conscience and even without thinking it I've been avoiding the Infiltrator class more often. Just as I avoid Disrupter Ammo & Overload if a biotic is present (wish others would do that when I at least Fury, lol). Why should I have such an advantage over the pugs when I'm the one with more playtime & experience then most pugs I bump into?


But meh, it's just a thought. So wondering what others think...

a fury on condor will always have a difficult day.
when I play her I run around the entire map anyway. it always ist just ME and my COVER. no matter what the others do. and with annihilation field she primes constantly.

as to tech primes with biotics present:
when I use Disruptor Ammo or overload, most targets are dead.
and bosses may need a kind of agreement. however, we are no beginners with crap guns and can deal with bosses separately.

but it honors you that you make your character decision based on your teammates. really.

I, however play in PUGS most of the time

[Quarian Master Race]

which is that infiltrators are pretty much selfish kits that are not meant to complement any team.

Play in a tech heavy team with a QFI specced for Tech Vulnerability in sabotage before you pretend like the kits are "selfish" and not meant to complement the team.

or as a huntress in a biotic boom squad
or a QMI with tacscan and a teammate with fire primer or AOE tech detonator
as a HI with damage/ expose/ weakening spec Cryo Blast in literally any team.

most of the other Infiltrators have tech primers, detonators or both, and are no worse than the average engineer or sentinel in terms of team synergy (and in fact are better than many kits of those classes in this regard, such as the Talon, Volus Merc and Sentinel and Worlard)

[Schlave]

i made some pretty strong and sweeping statements based on my experience in pubbing with infils. as folks can see, they have been rather irritating. I'm glad to see some more experienced players like QMR give a more balanced view of the class, and i may play it differently from now on. i have seen rare exceptions of:

- medic human infils who spec sticky grenade for proximity and cryo blast for cc

- huntress infils who play ball in a biotic team

- qmes actually using tac scan

 

that said, most infils i see generally play the class for TC's weapon bonus and get out of jail free. more experienced players who use the other powers as intended to help the team may beg to differ, but i still feel that its popularity among gold/plat pubs still boils down to the huge bonuses it lends - aggro dump, relocation, weapon damage. therefore the use of the term "selfish." i think that the power is unbalanced - a sentiment that, although pointless for ME3, I hope will affect the nature of TC in the next multiplayer.

 

i still don't like playing with many infils in my team - but will give the class another shot.

 

on another note, it's nice how i can say this about a 3 year old game in this day and age.

[Cryos_Feron]

I only play GI with 0 fitness with no cyclonics so not really ashamed.

yes, this is viable.

but I changed my build when I realized that 50% of the times it were swarmers that killed me. and no prime or Banshee

[Cryos_Feron]

on another note, it's nice how i can say this about a 3 year old game in this day and age.

so right ☺