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[leadintea]

Easily has to be Dorian. He's an arrogant, selfish a-hole who's done absolutely nothing with his life except complain and whine about his lot in life, despite having one of the easiest and most privileged lives of all companions. Just because of an arranged marriage (which can't compare to ANYTHING any of our other companions went through), he became a bully as a kid and spent his entire time in Tevinter in whorehouses and drinking instead of taking steps to actually try to change Tevinter like he keeps going on about. He has absolutely no backbone and no resolve and has to rely on people like Alexius and the Inquisitor to get things done instead of actually doing anything himself. I could've easily handled him had he been more humble, but for him to have the audacity to be overbearingly arrogant and acting as though he's the best thing the Maker has ever made, especially having accomplished nothing of value just really makes me despise the guy. And yes, I know his arrogance is supposed to be a "defense mechanism," but it's still an extremely annoying personality trait coming from someone like him, not to mention that he could've easily taken on another trait, such as sweetness or stoicism or whatever to hide his true feelings.

[Livi14]

Vivienne, by quite a distance. She is just intolerably hypocritical. She lives in a palace, problably without any templar in sight - but wants to lecture everyone how great circles are, and how wanting personal liberty is wrong and stupid. I mean, I didn't agree with Wynne's views either, but at least she didn't trivialize her fellow mages' issues - and she actually knew what the average mage has to deal with.

[Halfdan The Menace]

All of them mages. They can be quite deceiving. After that shocking scene with "Solas" (whatever his real name is), never trust a mage ever again. Fenris was right after all. Maybe the only good mage is the player character. Or not. Either way, got to watch your back even if you are a mage vulnerable to demon possession.

"Least I like" NPCs:
Solas (Hostis humani generis, literally "enemy of mankind")
Merrill (admitted being a blood mage)
Anders (gladly kill him again, he murdered Grand Cleric Elthina with foul magic)
Vivienne (that accent not going to fool me, witch)
Morrigan (sorry Morrigan but you are under influence of Flemeth)
Flemeth (the old hag who talk too much)
Cole (even a peaceful spirit can be transformed into a demon)
Bartrand (not a mage, but bastard betrayed his own brother and got what he deserved)

[lordsaren101]

Everyone not named Dumat.

[WashclothRepairMan]

Vivienne, Vivienne Vivienne.  *pounds up and down*  

Agreed.

 

I'm not saying she's poorly written. She has to be well written to make me hate her so much.

 

Also Sebastian.

 

But I really, really, really want to option to kill Vivienne. Either in Trespasser, an unannounced full expansion or DA4. I always take Viv to Future Redcliffe just so I can see her dead body be discarded like the piece of trash she is. I also want to taunt her that Cole, a "demon," is a better human being than she could ever hope to be.

[WashclothRepairMan]

I don't even hate Sera, unlike most people.
And Vivienne is an admirable woman even if you don't like her personality.

But Bianca... yeah. She is a sodding pile of nug droppings.

There is nothing admirable about Vivienne. She is an entirely unpleasant and disgusting person.

 

For the life of me I can't understand how Sera is beating Viv. I'm not a fan of Sera, but Viv is waaaaay worse. Being burned at the stake is too good for Vivienne.

[Arshei]

All of them mages. They can be quite deceiving. After that shocking scene with "Solas" (whatever his real name is), never trust a mage ever again. Fenris was right after all. Maybe the only good mage is the player character. Or not. Either way, got to watch your back even if you are a mage vulnerable to demon possession.

"Least I like" NPCs:
Solas (Hostis humani generis, literally "enemy of mankind")
Merrill (admitted being a blood mage)
Anders (gladly kill him again, he murdered Grand Cleric Elthina with foul magic)
Vivienne (that accent not going to fool me, witch)
Morrigan (sorry Morrigan but you are under influence of Flemeth)
Flemeth (the old hag who talk too much)
Cole (even a peaceful spirit can be transformed into a demon)
Bartrand (not a mage, but bastard betrayed his own brother and got what he deserved)

 

Is there anyone who you don't hate?

Goddess .-.

[HeyYouBase]

My least favorite has to be Oghren. What is his appeal, exactly? Also not a fan of Sten, couldn't get over him killing a whole family, I guess.

[Kittn]

The mild arguments that have sprung up in this thread are baffling. Different characters will resonate with different players. That's all there is to it, really. Honestly, I think its sorta neat how varied the responses are.

That said, if I'm only allowed one answer: Sera. No one else even comes close, really.

Her personality just plain irritates the hell out of me. I've read all the arguments in her defense, and everything brought up to explain why she is how she is. It doesn't help. I find her obnoxious and hateful. Certainly, she's had moments where she made me laugh. But they don't excuse the other 90 percent of her interactions that are bratty and rude. She's the sort of person who seems to go way out of her way to disrespect others. To me, that's the makings of a very unpleasant character. One that doesn't mature at all over the course of the game. Not even a little bit. I've had her in my field group and brought her to important events in different playthroughs for completionist sake. She's had every opportunity to change my mind. She has not.

Ya'll might think I'm some kinda prude for that little rant but I swear I usually like the snarky rebellious types! To me, she's just plain doing it wrong. Or something.

As for the rest..

Leliana was my least favorite in DA:O. She started off on the wrong foot with me, the way she invites herself along (Pet peeve there), but I also rarely used her because Zevran. Campsite interactions with her felt wishy washy and stale. She was just a ho-hum character to me, who kept managing to get the spotlight somehow and even got her own add-on, so that always made me grumble. I expected my opinion of her to carry over into DA:I and I was actually dismayed to see her in the trailers. However, over the course of this game she's managed to become a character I like a great deal. Well done, Sister Nightingale.

In DA:2 there wasn't really anyone I disliked. I hated what Anders did, but before he put on his doom feathers, he was cute and fun. Merril was on my black list for a while. It only took a rival playthrough with her to completely change my mind, however. Idly, I really miss the rivalry/friendship thing. I felt like it allowed you to see an entirely different side of the characters, and really influence how they ended up without them utterly despising you in the end or leaving.

[Arshei]

I love everyone, except Vivienne, she is a bit** and she know it.

[SamanthaJ]

I like most characters at least a little, but there are a few that I'm not too keen on. I probably dislike Oghren the most. It's not so much his character as it is the way he is portrayed and interacted with. Due to my family or origin situation I take alcoholism very seriously and I don't like seeing it treated like a joke, and I don't like being someone's enabler. 

[Qun00]

I don't exactly *hate* Velanna, but I don't like how self-centered she is.

While every other companion considers how allying with the Architect may affect the world, all she cares about is the idea that sparing him means a chance to save her sister.

I understand that it's normal to feel that way, but when the stakes are this high you can't just focus on your personal problems. She clearly isn't cut out to be a Grey Warden.

[Babelas]

Most characters in the series have some sort of saving grace. I can find something I like about them. Sera is the exception to this rule. I have played all the DA games, and  she is not only my least favorite, but I really could care less if she dies. After romancing Solas and deciding to remove the vallaslin, her comments were the most selfish, horrible, hurtful nasty comments I think I've come across from any DA character. The inability to have even a smidgen of empathy for my Inky was the final straw. Sure, Sera did not have to like my elfy elf decision, but could she not put aside her selfishness for one second to consider how that had affected her friend? My Inky was always polite to her and that was how she repaid the kindness. Plus, her rudeness in the Temple of Mythal annoyed me. Her childish pranks that in a real life situation would just annoy people because their boss is now irritated made little sense to me. It doesn't make the boss seem like people. It's just stupid. I could also care less about Red Jenny to be honest. 

 

I do dislike Vivienne too but she has some moments that I appreciate. 

 

I always like to balance negativity so my most loved character is Flemeth.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

My least favorite has to be Oghren. What is his appeal, exactly?

 

He is a dirtbag, and those are guys that you learn to love going to war with (or you do not need to learn it at all). They're a blast when they're at their best and keep you from getting too serious about things.

[JJDXB]

Vivienne, by quite a distance. She is just intolerably hypocritical. She lives in a palace, problably without any templar in sight - but wants to lecture everyone how great circles are, and how wanting personal liberty is wrong and stupid. I mean, I didn't agree with Wynne's views either, but at least she didn't trivialize her fellow mages' issues - and she actually knew what the average mage has to deal with.

 

VIvienne does know.  Remember, she was just another mage before she met the Duke de Ghislain.  Then, she started becoming what she is today.  It's heavily implied, by Cole, that something nearly went terribly wrong with her harrowing.  Considering that almost 50% voted not to split from the Circles, I'd say you don't know what the average mage deals with either.  And this is coming from someone who almost always frees them.

[Avejajed]

Awhora.

[Qun00]

Awhora.

Ha, good one.

Alistair sole ruler, ALWAYS.

[Cyberstrike nTo]

Cole. 

[berelinde]

VIvienne does know.  Remember, she was just another mage before she met the Duke de Ghislain.  Then, she started becoming what she is today.  It's heavily implied, by Cole, that something nearly went terribly wrong with her harrowing.  Considering that almost 50% voted not to split from the Circles, I'd say you don't know what the average mage deals with either.  And this is coming from someone who almost always frees them.

That's something I'd never considered before. Considering her ambition, I could see why she would be especially vulnerable to certain kinds of temptation. Could her iron facade be hiding a lot of self-doubt?

 

It's a pity that DAI did not continue the rivalry dynamic. It might be interesting to see what would happen in a situation where she greatly respected the protagonist, but hated and feared everything they stood for. There are a lot of ways that could go wrong.

 

I don't dislike Vivienne. I like her a great deal, as a matter of fact. But one of the reasons I like her is because she has flaws.

[Bowie Hawkins]

Easily has to be Dorian. He's an arrogant, selfish a-hole who's done absolutely nothing with his life except complain and whine about his lot in life, despite having one of the easiest and most privileged lives of all companions. Just because of an arranged marriage...

 

His father wanted to magically lobotomize him to turn him straight - that's a bloody great deal more than "just an arranged marriage".

[Zombie_Alexis]

I have liked all of the companion characters in at least some small way in all of the games. Except for Velanna. She makes it really hard to like her, and the fact that her personal quest is nearly impossible to trigger makes it even more difficult to get to know her. But I've found something compelling about all the companion characters so far.

[Halfdan The Menace]

Is there anyone who you don't hate?
Goddess .-.

No offense Merrill but you know how blood mages are like. Especially those in Tevinter Imperium who openly practice human sacrifice to their slaves.
 

[Bhryaen]

My answer would be based on my experience with the characters, not whether they're better or worse or whether I'm against them on principle. Like Loghain- easily the most beheadable otherwise, but actually an interesting character to have been thought up and given dialog and actually potentially recruitable, so, not at all my least favorite. Vivienne- arrogant, never seems to like anything I do, a mage who frustratingly hates trusting mages... but a definitive personality as such. She has substance. She's memorable. Or Merrill who was sooo hot in DAO's Dalish origin (OK, the voice actress anyway) and then became an often-clueless, often-indecisive high-pitched Irish girl with an obsession about her Eluvian... but was very consistent and quirky as such and demonstrably presented the topic of blood magic in a less polarized way. Substance. So...

 

My most decisively least favorite: Dog. Bark, bark, slobber, pant, bark, roll on ground, bark.... Oh, yeah, and bark. Lots of barking. I got a mod just to shut it up. Every time I talked to it I felt the integrity of the game dissolve into some 2nd-rate sitcom throw-away moment. Then it showed up in my estate in DA2 for no explicable reason after I finished the main story... to resume the barking I'd so been missing. I can say I disliked Dog (always named it something effacing in DAO like "Mangy Beast"). By the same token I hated Schmooples (I actually remembered the name- ugh) and never made the mistake of gifting that constantly squeaking thing again. Utterly bleeping stupid.

 

2nd worst would be Velanna. From the get-go- start to finish- an unpleasant, tedious character. Someone to recruit if you're masochistic. And elves in the Thedasverse are already getting the shaft on a regular basis, seeming as if the gods (writers) find elves to be best as the butt of jokes: you get to slaughter whole Dalish clans in both DAO and DA2. (Don't tell me if there's an "exterminate every single American Indi- I mean, elf" option in DAI as well. I don't want to know...) Then there's the alienage experience, the loss of Arlathan, the loss to the Orlesians... Unsurprisingly then the elf companion showing up in Awakenings was thoroughly annoying and wouldn't shut up about being an elf. Yes, we get it. You're an elf. She was like a Sera character without the sense of humor- without, like, any sense of humor. And whiny. And moody. And dull. And... really not much else. Every time we meet elves in DA it seems we get the good cop, bad cop routine- guards being arses to us, then some reassuring nice elf explaining that we just have to understand that of course elves will act that way... 'cause in DA that's what we come to expect. Just ask Solas. So Velanna was one of the bad cops- but without a good cop there to rationalize it. Disappointing but, admittedly, unsurprisingly so for the way elves tend to be written in DA. (Ironically the best character in DA is an elf though- Zev... Go figure.)

 

Harder to pick a 3rd worst. Every other character has a fairly distinctive personality that's been given a more or less interesting storyline, something to wonder about and interact meaningfully with. On that ground I'd say Tallis would be next worst. That entire DLC felt out of sync with the DA I'd been playing- like watching a sitcom pilot based on the great movie trilogy I'd watched over and over. Her character had plenty to think about- qun identity, allegiance, assassin's life, espionage, etc.- but the irrational "flighty girl" personality just came across like a cactus growing in a snowstorm- unlikely to be there in that environment without having been forcibly transplanted there by the writers. How many times did she bungle the operation? Her credibility was nil. OK, perhaps the DLC was more comical... But that's just it: then she was a lame joke. DA has moments of comedy (a cheese shield in DAI, Lord Woolsley) but not whole sequences of it. The closest such sequences might be Oghren's relationship with Felsi or Aveline's special "mission," but even those was serious enough that Oghren ended up a touching figure (as well as Felsi) and Aveline remained an eminently respectable figure- both characters loyal to the end. Experience with Tallis was a series of one-liners that failed to evoke even a smirk, and then she gets away with her thing and takes off. As evidence of the "meh" that was Tallis' character, the questions you're asked in the DA Keep about her DLC are: "Did you make her angry?" and "Did you kiss her"? What, is this a high school melodrama? That was what her story amounted to as significant to DAI's narrative? No, I didn't kiss her...

 

Sera would then end up 4th, but I like a number of aspects to her personality. The Red Jenny reference is fantastic after two full DA games referring to the "organization" without revealing its nature. Finally we work with an operative "in person," even if we still aren't "in" on it. And she has side-quests and War Room quests based on it as well. But the Sera character itself feels like an inevitably failed attempt to fuse disparate and not-so-very-similar character types into one: most eminently- "flighty girl" again fused with hardened defender of the downtrodden. It has the appearance of a split personality. And she is sorta crazy, but "crazy" is a bit too vague to patch over the mutually exclusive tendencies supposedly guiding her actions. One can just as meaningfully apply the term "mysteriously." Either she likes being into cute outfits or she gets worked up that the poor can hardly afford clothes. Either she can hardly finish a single sentence without her mind wandering or she's strong-minded and disciplined enough to maintain a credible organization with contacts and contracts across all of southern Thedas. Either she's an adolescent hothead or an accomplished, purposeful assassin. Normally- realistically- one must choose between the two. It's like two teams wrote her, couldn't decide on a single personality between them, and compromised with each other by compromising the character's integrity as a single person. And some of the lines... I'm glad not to be doing the romance with her. The voice actress is also not up to the challenge of accounting for the dissonance, but she had a tough job of it. (They needed someone who likes playing quirky, almost cartoonish characters with an edge- i.e., not someone more dramatic.) All that said, I have a decent-enough sense of the character(s) of Sera, so... not at all the worst to travel with.

 

I'd have put Leliana in there somewhere for her DAO "extra-flighty girl" routine ("More crazy? I thought we were all full up") and ungrounded religiousness, but they did a great job showing her matured and deepened by her personal and professional experiences when she shows up leading the Inquisition in DAI. (I somehow missed her appearance in DA2, so- not sure how that went.) I want to say my Hero of Ferelden had some part in her transformation, but... Same with Cullen who I loathed in DAO for his irrational "kill 'em all" mentality, then merely tolerated him warily in DA2, but who reemerged in DAI with an unforeseen but believable versatility of character.

 

OK, enough. A one-word answer turned into 500...

[leadintea]

His father wanted to magically lobotomize him to turn him straight - that's a bloody great deal more than "just an arranged marriage".

 

Yeah, his father did that when Dorian was well into adulthood but according to Wot2,  he's been a brat ever since childhood just because of his arranged marriage - bullying his classmates, whoring about in Tevinter, and ruining his family's name in a cutthroat nation where rival families are constantly trying to bring each other down in order to move up in the social hierarchy.