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[Former_Fiend]

I do find that comment about Bull by LilithMB interesting, because Bull is the only one of Weekes' Dragon Age characters that I do like. I love all of his ME characters, but Solas was very meh for me and I detest Cole.

[Cyberstrike nTo]

Least favorite in DA:O Morrigan

Least favorite in DAO-A Anders

Least favorite in DA2 a tie between Anders and Carver

Least favorite in DA:I Cole

[sonoko]

Aveline. 

She was allowed in Kirkwall only because Hawke and her brother became basically indentured servants for a year. She was making her career as a respectable city guard while the Hawke siblings risked their lives and freedom working as mercenaries or smugglers. And after that, knowing perfectly well that the Hawkes have no stable (and legal) sources of income, she refuses to approve Carver's application into the city guards, while lecturing him that he shouldn't mingle with shady people! Just wow. Nice, Aveline, thanks a lot!

[Homeboundcrib]

For DA:O Morrigan
DA:A I liked everyone
DA:2 again alright lol
DA:I Morrigan again and Viv
Morrigan i just get odd feels from her and sometime kinda want to slap her. I'm probably just being mean.

[Former_Fiend]

Aveline. 

She was allowed in Kirkwall only because Hawke and her brother became basically indentured servants for a year. She was making her career as a respectable city guard while the Hawke siblings risked their lives and freedom working as mercenaries or smugglers. And after that, knowing perfectly well that the Hawkes have no stable (and legal) sources of income, she refuses to approve Carver's application into the city guards, while lecturing him that he shouldn't mingle with shady people! Just wow. Nice, Aveline, thanks a lot!

 

Yeah, that was one of the main things that tipped me over into actively disliking her. She was tolerable when I was playing as a warrior but once I tried a mage playthrough and heard her dialogue with Carver I went from neutral to actively negative towards her.

[Sable Rhapsody]

For DA:O Morrigan
DA:A I liked everyone
DA:2 again alright lol
DA:I Morrigan again and Viv
Morrigan i just get odd feels from her and sometime kinda want to slap her. I'm probably just being mean.

 

Nah, there are odd characters whom I dislike for no good reason.  Like Fiona.  I was meh toward her in the books, but I just don't like her voice in DA:I.  It makes me want to punch her.  Completely irrational reason, yet I take great glee in filling her with arrows after Champions of the Just.

[Youknow]

Leliana. She was okay in Origins, but she just annoys me to no end in Inquisition. I also hate how they made her almost arrogant about her work, and the game talks about how awesome she is and yet... I never really felt like she was the backbone of the Inquisition like the game would have you to believe. She's a character that finished her arc in Origins and just seems to keep being there for who knows what reason. Please. No more. 

 

Sera. Too self-righteous for her own good and immature about it.

 

 

She was allowed in Kirkwall only because Hawke and her brother became basically indentured servants for a year. She was making her career as a respectable city guard while the Hawke siblings risked their lives and freedom working as mercenaries or smugglers. And after that, knowing perfectly well that the Hawkes have no stable (and legal) sources of income, she refuses to approve Carver's application into the city guards, while lecturing him that he shouldn't mingle with shady people! Just wow. Nice, Aveline, thanks a lot!

 

Wow... That is messed up. I always wondered why the Hawke siblings COULDN'T get a job with the guards. You mean to say Aveline is the reason why? That's just... Wow.

[Hazegurl]

Aveline. 

She was allowed in Kirkwall only because Hawke and her brother became basically indentured servants for a year. She was making her career as a respectable city guard while the Hawke siblings risked their lives and freedom working as mercenaries or smugglers. And after that, knowing perfectly well that the Hawkes have no stable (and legal) sources of income, she refuses to approve Carver's application into the city guards, while lecturing him that he shouldn't mingle with shady people! Just wow. Nice, Aveline, thanks a lot!

Yeah, I don't have much of an issue with Aveline but she isn't my favorite because of crap like that.  And to top it off, she lectures Hawke about his criminal activities like he has any other employment options and act like he's obligated to keep that dump of a city safe while under servitude.  I do like her for not snitching though.

[Sifr]

Aveline. 

She was allowed in Kirkwall only because Hawke and her brother became basically indentured servants for a year. She was making her career as a respectable city guard while the Hawke siblings risked their lives and freedom working as mercenaries or smugglers. And after that, knowing perfectly well that the Hawkes have no stable (and legal) sources of income, she refuses to approve Carver's application into the city guards, while lecturing him that he shouldn't mingle with shady people! Just wow. Nice, Aveline, thanks a lot!

 

But the reason Aveline refused Carver's application was because she knew that deep down, Carver didn't really want to become a City Guard.

 

The reason he applied to join was the same as why he signed up for the Fereldan army, jumped at the chance to become part of the Red Iron, and can run off to the Templars, because he's looking for something, anything, that would allow him to achieve the validation that he desires.

 

Carver has spent years developing a major inferiority complex towards his elder sibling and feels that he's living in Hawke's shadow. That's why we see him lash out so often whenever he feels as if people criticising him, as well as constantly trying to prove himself, both to himself and others, that he is more than "Hawke's kid little brother".

 

That's why becoming a Warden is so good for him, because despite not having chosen that life, he finds a real sense of purpose and identity and is finally able to drop all that resentment and emotional baggage he'd been carrying around with him.

 

So, Aveline was right to turn down his request.

 

Besides, she's wasn't exactly wrong when she tells him that he has a chip on his shoulder and doesn't listen to orders, which would make him dangerous and a liability as a guard. As Guard-Captain, she's meant to rebuild the guard's shattered reputation, which wouldn't be helped by allowing Carver to be a cowboy cop.

 

Yeah, I don't have much of an issue with Aveline but she isn't my favorite because of crap like that.  And to top it off, she lectures Hawke about his criminal activities like he has any other employment options and act like he's obligated to keep that dump of a city safe while under servitude.  I do like her for not snitching though.

 

Hawke hasn't been indentured for a while by the time Act 1 begins though, so even if we didn't have much choice in what jobs were available, we weren't exactly being forced to pick the most shadiest gigs going either.

 

Their first conversation at the barracks where Aveline makes us aware of freelance work we could do for the guard and Hawke pointedly comments "I'm no guard", makes me wonder whether or not they've had this conversation before? It does seem in-character for Aveline to try to get Hawke to find some kind of legitimate work they could do to support their family, since she cares about their welfare and has even been sending people to patrol near Gamlen's hovel to make sure they're safe (and Hawke is staying out of mischief).

 

I think that Aveline is just exercising some tough love on them, the same way she does to the guards when she becomes Captain.

[Ardent Blossom]

DA O: Leliana. I was pissed I couldn't convince her not to join up at Lothering. Her accent annoys me, I don't dig the whole super religious thing, AND she stole my hair-do. 

 

DA 2: Fenris. He's too much like an anime character. DA isn't Final Fantasy, thanks.

 

DAI: Iron Bull. I don't like the big, manly man types. I also really don't like FPjr's voice work. He sounds phony. 

[Sriep]

Anders in DA2. Not saying he was badly done, I just hated the weak, whiny mass murdering twit. Really no other companion compares and it would be unfair to mention them in the same breath.

[straykat]

Iron Bull.. I don't know if "least favorite" is the right word. That indicates he's still a favorite. heh

[Hazegurl]

Hawke hasn't been indentured for a while by the time Act 1 begins though, so even if we didn't have much choice in what jobs were available, we weren't exactly being forced to pick the most shadiest gigs going either.

 

Their first conversation at the barracks where Aveline makes us aware of freelance work we could do for the guard and Hawke pointedly comments "I'm no guard", makes me wonder whether or not they've had this conversation before? It does seem in-character for Aveline to try to get Hawke to find some kind of legitimate work they could do to support their family, since she cares about their welfare and has even been sending people to patrol near Gamlen's hovel to make sure they're safe (and Hawke is staying out of mischief).

 

I think that Aveline is just exercising some tough love on them, the same way she does to the guards when she becomes Captain.

I don't think that was a good enough to deny Carver employment with the guard.  Lots of people take jobs they may not like but need for the money.  A job with the city guard would have at least gotten Carver away from the shady elements she says he needs to stay away from, as well as take the slack off the Hawke family by having another money maker in the family.  She denied him due more to her own self righteousness about the Guard than anything.

 

As for Hawke, I forgot he was no longer indentured by the time Act 1 starts.  My mistake on that.   Although I don't know how she thinks my Mage Hawke could do legit freelance work for the city guard is beyond me.

[Sifr]

I don't think that was a good enough to deny Carver employment with the guard.  Lots of people take jobs they may not like but need for the money.  A job with the city guard would have at least gotten Carver away from the shady elements she says he needs to stay away from, as well as take the slack off the Hawke family by having another money maker in the family.  She denied him due more to her own self righteousness about the Guard than anything.

 

As for Hawke, I forgot he was no longer indentured by the time Act 1 starts.  My mistake on that.   Although I don't know how she thinks my Mage Hawke could do legit freelance work for the city guard is beyond me.

 

I think Aveline was just concerned that Carver wouldn't follow orders, both because he has a bit of an attitude (Leliana sums him up as "a little surly") and he does spend most of the prologue and Act 1 arguing with people and questioning practically everything that happens or he's told to do.

 

If Carver became a Templar, apparently he ended up leaving the Order at some point between DA2 and Inquistion to instead join the Guard and help in the rebuilding of Kirkwall. We saw in Legacy that Templar!Carver (and Warden!Carver too) had developed a strong sense of discipline, so that was probably the only thing that was standing in his way from Aveline accepting him before. They even have a conversation in Legacy where they talk about when he applied to the guard and he admits to having been rather insufferable back then.

 

But yeah, how did she expect Hawke to even be a temp for the guards? Hawke is often criticised as the least proactive of our main protagonist and it's kinda true; we do often see Hawke dodge any kind of power or authority whenever it's offered to them. Even Cass wonders in Inquisition if Hawke would have turned down the role of Inquisitor, if they'd actually been able to find them.

[vertigomez]

You like/dislike what you like/dislike. Never apologize. I make no apologies for hating Sebastian with every fiber of my being. He's the literal worst. And he's overcompensating with that belt buckle.

The more I play DAI the less I like Solas. Especially after Trespasser. Solas can suck it.

Ha, thank you!

I just, personally, can't stand not liking a character unless they're made specifically for that reason (like Vaughan or Alrik). I want to look at characters from every angle, dissect their motivations, empathize with them as people... until I finally understand and like them. And I will tear my own hair out trying to like them.

It's probably not healthy, but I can't seem to stop.

[BloodKaiden]

Wynne, Varric, and Bethany. I can't even tolerate them personally, but had to roll with them from a few character roleplay standpoints.

[DarkNova50]

In Origins, I disliked that Morrigan's motivations seemed to change depending on how badly she could disapprove of your current actions. That doesn't say deep and complicated to me, but rather sloppily written. Wynne was so dull I usually forget she was in the game until somebody mentions her, and the same goes for just about the entire cast of Awakening.

 

There were very few characters I actually liked in Dragon Age 2. Sebastian, Fenris and Anders were all pretty hard to suffer through at points, and I wasn't crazy about Merril either.

 

Solas is pretty boring in Inquisition. So is Iron Bull.

[Qun00]

Blackwall is so much my least favourite Inquisition character, that I forget he existed the first time I was thinking about this question.

The problem with Blackwall is that single plot twist is all there is to his character.

It goes like this: Boring, boring, boring, Ohh, secret revealed! Done. Boring again.

This isn't to say he doesn't have his moments, but it's mostly meh.

[sniper_arrow]

The problem with Blackwall is that single plot twist is all there is to his character.

It goes like this: Boring, boring, boring, Ohh, secret revealed! Done. Boring again.

This isn't to say he doesn't have his moments, but it's mostly meh.

 

I have to agree. I don't hate him, but he doesn't really stood out compared to the others. The fake Warden concept seems interesting in paper, but doesn't execute well overall.

[Ghost Gal]

Loghain. Just thinking about him still makes me mad. The same guy that whined to anyone who would listen how he was "enslaved" and oppressed by Orlesians did not hesitate to force his unwanted regency on Ferelden (becoming an oppressor himself) and to actually sell his own people into actual slavery to pay for his civil war to force the nobles to cow to his regency.

 

Not only that, but his blind, willful idiocy nearly got Ferelden wiped off the map. His idiot decision to completely withdraw all forces from the south so darkspawn could pour into the country unopposed and instead post soldiers at the Orlesian border was inexcusable. His decision to constantly ignore and brush off advice to deal with the darkspawn first in favor of his civil war and Orlesian witch hunt (and the first person who says, "Well, turns out he was right about Orlais..." gets slapped. Orlais was the eventual threat to worry about later while the darkspawn was the immediate danger that needed to be fought now, not the other way around. Loghain's failure to see it nearly got the country wiped off the map so there wouldn't be any Ferelden for Orlais to subjugate) was ****** stupid. His decision to ignore the darkspawn flooding into the country but actively hunt darkspawn experts was sheer pride and ego. (Sure, the guy who's never dealt with a darkspawn in his life knows better than the darkspawn experts what is and isn't a Blight.)

 

For all his telling Cailan "we must attend to reality," Loghain spends the entire game actively ignoring reality to deal with his delusions and paranoia.

 

Flemeth: Men's hearts hold shadows darker than any tainted creature. Perhaps he thinks the darkspawn is an army he can outmaneuver. [a.k.a. PRIDE and EGO]

 

Anora: Should we not be fighting the darkspawn instead of each other? 

Loghain: The Ferelden nobles  need to be brought to line, and then the darkspawn. (Yeah, because they'll just sit and wait patiently until you're done...)

 

Howe (f*cking Howe!): "We simply do not have the manpower... [to fight the civil war and the darkspawn at the same time]"

Anora: We need help, Father!

Loghain: Ferelden will stand on its own two feet!

Me: (WITH WHAT?!)

 

Hardened Alistair: That's just the trouble with Anora--she's just like her father. They think they alone know what's best for Ferelden, and everyone else needs to just get out of the way.

 

Arl Wulff: The South has fallen, Loghain. Would you let the darkspawn take the entire country for fear of Orlais?

 

Apparently he would. Loghain was such an excessively stupid, proud, paranoid, deluded, stubborn idiot (on top of being a lying, traitorous, backstabbing, tyrannical hypocrite) that he would have spent his last days trying to shove a square peg into a round hole instead of just admitting it wasn't working and switching to a new peg that would fit. If he had his way he would have waited till the darkspawn swallowed the whole country before admitting he was wrong and should have agreed to a new plan, rather than forcing everyone to stick to the one that clearly wasn't working until it was too late.

[Pensieve]

I changed my mind about Sera. I disliked her at first but when you romance her she's actually pretty cute and sweet. I dislike Solas more and more though. I made a female elf just so I could do all the romance options with Solas and then friendzone him, HA.

[Ghost Gal]

While Loghain is my least favorite, Sera and Vivienne come up as close seconds. They're both mean-spirited, self-serving hypocrites.

 

Vivienne is just fine with hundreds of mages being imprisoned in cold stone towers and abused by Templars because she doesn't have to physically live in a Circle or undergo Templar supervision, and can live it in a chateau, frequents lavish parties, and play political games at Court. (Yeah, why should Vivienne care about the conditions mages have to live in when she doesn't have to live with them herself?) For all her talk about protecting the common folk, she doesn't use any of her influence at Court to actually improve their lives; instead she only uses her influence to increase her own power and influence. Despite Orlais being notorious for its class disparity and abuse and exploitation of the lower classes, she's just fine with the common folk toiling away in inescapable poverty, being oppressed by nobles, and being used pawns in the nobles' power struggles, just as long as she can use her anit-mage stance to sell her fellow mages down the river for a slice of the Power Pie.

 

Sera is also fine with mages being oppressed as long as the common folk don't have to deal with their magic. She also doesn't care about the common folk as much as making a profit for herself. The game files even describe her as "a selfish criminal," and she even tells the Inquisitor at one point, "We need to get things back to normal so I can go play" and "Helps me, helps people, helps you, in that order." She's also not at all interested in trying to change the established order because having some people at the top conveniently gives herself license to kill and steal to her heart's content. I'm serious. She balks every time someone asks about the Red Jennies making a long-term change, and makes it clear the Red Jennies have no intention of taking down or even downsizing the nobles, as keeping the nobility exactly where they are lets the Jennies to give themselves moral license to kill, rob, and prank the nobles whenever they feel like it.

 

I really have no fondness for characters who say "mages and elves should just accept being oppressed because it's for the good of the 'the common folk,'" but who don't actually care about helping the common folk because upholding the current oppressive system gives themselves power. Vivienne is totally fine with the oppression of the common folk because it gives herself power as a noble (and selling fellow mages to the Circle gives her power/influence with the Andrastian human religious nobility), and Sera is just fine with the nobility keeping their power because it gives herself moral license to shoot arrows, steal from, and play pranks on nobles in "revenge" for the common folk whenever she feels like it.

[vellveteen]

I've actually changed my mind about Vivienne, although she isn't particularly interesting, she is mature and professional enough. I actually think Sera is the worst character, and I think my reasons are going to be fairly obvious - it's just her abrasive and irresponsible personality. It does make party banter entertaining though. I just like the drama lol. She can be actually funny sometimes. The one thing that put me off though was her personal quest. Out of curiosity I let her kill the guy just to see what happened. (which was a bad solution by the way, my inquisitor disagreed with her afterwards and made her hostile). It was the most violent scene I have seen throughout the whole game so far - she kicks him to a pulp which looked really wrong and unclean despite him being responsible for the deaths of her friends. she doesn't take things seriously and seems to be incredibly unprofessional. It's harder for an elven inquisitor to get her approval which makes it difficult to talk to her. I had a really hard time getting her approval in my first playthrough. Sometimes I liked her, other times I hated her. 

 

In Origins I didn't like Morrigan for her arrogance, but she did improve slightly in inquisition along with Leliana. They both became more realistic and relatable characters. 

[Qun00]

If there is one thing I cannot hold Loghain guilty for is Cailan's death.

Right before the battle of Ostagar, we see Loghain literally telling him not to fight in the front lines because it's too dangerous.

If he truly wanted Cailan to die, he'd have actually encouraged him to join the battle.

That said, there is no excuse for the rest of his actions.

[AFA]

Viv, great character, terrible person, so good job by the writers. 

 

I liked Blackwall, but his character was a missed opportunity. Should have been the actual Warden, or should have been the atoning professional soldier from the start. The twist wasn't really worth it.