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[Forsythia77]

Oh, this is the thread where I get to talk smack about Sebastian, no??

 

Wynne in DAO.  I didn't like her moralizing.  And I didn't need her as a spirit healer.  I prefer a more offensive mage so I would just spec Morrigan with a token heal and get on with it.

Sebastian in DA2.  So much righteous indignation with that one.  And that big shiny belt buckle.  Clearly he is overcompensating for something with that....

Solas in DAI.  He is just so..joyless.  I mean I guess Blackwall is pretty joyless too, but Solas is super serious all the time and never seems to have any fun with real people ever.  I'm sure he has fun with his spirits in the fade.

[Giton]

THE REQUISITIONS OFFICER!!!

 

"I have something for you."

 

"Leave me alone!"

[Basement Cat]

DAO: Zevran and Oghren. Zevran rubs me the wrong way and Oghren just isn't funny to me.

DAII: All of them, except Aveline. The others are stupid and/or selfish prats.

DAI: Iron Bull (creepy), Blackwall (downer), Solas (know-it-all) and Vivienne (condescending). 

[KaiserShep]

THE REQUISITIONS OFFICER!!!

 

"I have something for you."

 

"Leave me alone!"

 

This could help us.

[Rekkampum]

I use "least favorite" because i dont really "hate" any of them.

 

Merrill in Dragon Age 2. I dont dislike her. I just hate how shes basically a completly different person than in dragon age origins. In Origins she was basically a serious, stern keeper apprentice. In Dragon Age 2 shes an quirky, ludicrously naive pixie girl. The whole transformation just seems really weird. Im not really foind of how they changed the dalish clans american accents to dalish accents either.

 

Sebastian. I dont hate him. She has a fairly intresting personal quest and i like how he basically invades kirkwall if you spare Anders.

My main gripe is just that he doesnt fit into the group dynamic of the characters in dragon age 2. Every other playabnle companion has some sort of "Relationship dynamic" with the other playable characters. Sebastian (as a DLC character) is just like a bland outsider who doesnt fit in. It just seems like a wasted opportunity considering that his story had potential.

 

Wynne. Out of all the companion characters in Origins Wynne is the most dull. I think the main reason for this is that there no real "inner conflict" in her character arc. Shes basically just a selfrighteous mentor to the warden who constantly tells him/her whats the right thing to do. Oh and she gives some "Inspiring" comments about how she doesnt fear her imminent death. Her loyalty mission is also dull. She basically just find her old elven student (which she was an ass to long ago) only to realise that he has already forgiven her. It would have been alot more effective if he hated her and wouldnt forgive her. That would give her some intresting character development, and could have made her question her own character and morals. I still think she works ok as a character. Shes just kinda dull compared to the other characters.

 

Sera. My main gripe with Sera is that she dont really have a fleshed out character arc. The only real backstory she has is her story about her adoptive mother and her cookies. This doesnt have to be a bad thing. I sort like "Average Joes" who basically have no "Tragic backstory/dilemma" that the main character need to help them with. I liked Oghren in Origins because of this. He was basically just an alcholist warrior dwarf that was heartbroken because his wife had abandoned him. My main gripe with Sera is that shes basically reduced to being a "Comic relief". Shes basically a spoiled brat who makes "Funny" comments whenever she speaks. Oghren is compareison had "Funny" moments when he was drunk, but i never felt that he was reduced into ONLY being a "Comic relief character" (Well...... until awakenings was released). I still dont hate Sera. Shes just feels like a DLC character who dont have any real effect on the overall game experience.

 

I'd imagine that nice little bit about her losing her kid and not being able to do anything about it would serve as an inner conflict. Facing death is something serious, I think, so I thought it was more than simply "inspiring" that she'd come to peace with that fact. She's a bit old-fashioned, but I like how her character evolves and some of her initial condescending stems from fear and regret. She's lived those things and doesn't want the Warden to as well.

 

Oghren was basically a stock dwarf, in my opinion, right down to love of strong drink. But Sera, she's zany and I love how she develops completely. I feel like a mentor to her throughout her character arc.

 

If there is a character I don't like per say, it's Sigrun. She felt like a wasted opportunity.

[DuskWanderer]

Yeah I think you didn't actually talk to Dorian, or even do his companion quest, because this is blatantly false.

 

I did. Stop lying.

[KaiserShep]

I did. Stop lying.

You stop!

[Sylvan_Moon]

DAO: Wynne. I don't really dislike her but to me, she was the most boring character. I forget she's even there half the time.

DA2: Probably Aveline. Same reason as Wynne. She's so moral and serious. And sometimes, a teeny tiny bit, Merrill. She strikes me as an airhead but I sometimes find her funny.

DAI. Vivienne, hands down. A little Blackwall. When I got to his personal quest, I knew there was a reason I disliked him.

[TheRaccoon]

DAO: Oghren. Never used him. I was shocked when he was a bridging character from DAO to awakening.

DA2: I really like or dislike any of the companions. I guess Petrice takes the place.

DAI: Erimond. That arrogant fool. I hate him. Companion-wise, the least favourites would be Blackwall and Solas.

[FadelessRipley]

I don't "hate" any of the companions. Sera seriously baffled me at first, and Vivienne is a smug condescending b***h - yet both of them grew on me in ways. Sera's pretty funny, and if you take the time to try and figure her out, she's not bad at all. Viv I probably like least, but her personal quest was touching and showed there's more to her deep down. 

 

NPC wise - I'm replaying Origins atm and it's occurred to me how much of a b***h Branka is. Sure, I get that she's trying to recover a lost art of her people, but do the ends justify the means? I don't think so. What she did to her people was horrific, and the way she treated Oghren and Hespith was pretty horrible too. 

 

DA2 - Petrice. She's just a horrible, nasty little bigot. 

 

DAI: Erimond and Florianne. Both arrogant, self serving idiots. 

[brownie56]

Blackwall to the max. He just felt uninspired to me, from a story standpoint I enjoy his plot twist. But justified why I hated him. 

 

Isabella's schtick got old really quick in 2.

 

In DA:O, I was never particularly fond of Zevran. I had a very basic Alistair, Leliana, Morrigan set up for pretty much the whole game. I did use Shale a lot to break it up though, Shale was awesome. 

 

Varric lost his edge a bit in DA:I, he wasn't nearly as interesting without Cassandra around. 

[Qun00]

I haven't really played the older DA games, but I've watched a ton of videos with party banter and romance arcs.

At first, I thought the same as everyone else, Merril is a sweet and naive girl. But the writers couldn't seem to make up their minds on that.

There's dialogue where she and Anders talk about the moment when he lost control and almost killed a girl.

And then Merril tells him "All spirits are dangerous, I understood that. I'm sorry you didn't."

That's... horribly cold, considering what he'd just gone through.

There's also a moment when Aveline asks her about the eluvian, to which Merril responds "Oh, it just sits in my house and looks spooky". Then Aveline asks if the mirror is dangerous, and she replies " It can be if you stand right under it. It's quite heavy."

So you might think "That's normal, Merril is kinda slow", but Aveline asked a third time, putting it in the most simple way possible: " Is this mirror a threat to the city's people or not?" and so she repeats the same joke yet again.

Merril isn't stupid. After the second time, it's obvious she was being sarcastic.

Some of the worst characters are those which are total asses sometimes but that isn't acknowledged in the story because they're not supposed to be in theory. But the writers make them act like it for some reason.

[Carmen_Willow]

Dragon Age Origins: Probably Sten and Oghren. His personality rubs me the wrong way, his philosophy rubs me the wrong way, and his behavior before I met him and when I took him to Haven left me cold. I do his personal quest for the exp, but other than that, he pretty much stays in camp. Oghren is a drunk, and I don't care for that at all. IRL, having a soldier on your team who was constantly drunk would be dangerous.

 

DA:2: Isabela, and Sebastian. I believe that, originally, they were going to bring Nathaniel in as a companion in DA:2 and went with Mr. Squeaky Clean instead. Big mistake, there was a much better storyline for Nate, and Sebastian really lost me when he was considering turning in all the apostates in my group. Isabela's a lying thief who runs off and leaves me holding her bag. I always had to work too hard to get her to stick around, and it just wasn't worth it as far as I'm concerned. I get them both for the extra quests and exp, but they seldom travel with me.

 

Inquisition: Sera is irritating and Blackwall is just boring. I would take Cole out more often, but the rogues are just so hard to babysit in this game, they're more trouble than they're worth, so they sit in Skyhold most of the time.

[Carmen_Willow]

Cole, actually. And I'm probably going to lose a lot of points for admitting this.

 

There are characters whose politics and philosophies fire me up more (Anders, Morrigan), there are characters I feel are disgraces to be actively avoided (Ohgren), there are characters I can more or less condemn and live the rest of the game on without a second thought, but Cole is by far my least favorite because Cole is a giant walking violation of consent and privacy and even personal responsibility, and this is somehow treated as a Good Thing by the game since the only people to protest are those cast in the least sympathetic ways possible.

 (Edited for space only)

 

But I would like Cole's implications to be recognized and addressed as something potentially very wrong, rather than amazingly sympathetic and treated as one of the most morally benevolent things in the game.

You present a very interesting take on the character, and a viewpoint that I had not thought through. Thanks.

[Arisugawa]

Dragon Age Origins: Zevran.

 

I end up killing him upon the initial ambush more than I recruit him, and I usually do so without waking him to interrogate him. There's no need. I didn't spare any of his collaborators, and I don't particularly feel the need to know who sent him. I can extrapolate that it is either Loghain or Howe (when I am a Human Noble).

 

And during the times I do spare him, we have nothing in common. My Warden is diplomatic enough that he doesn't betray me, but in truth, I think Morrigan and Alistair are both correct. There's no need to have him around.

 

Dragon Age Awakenings: Justice.

 

Dislike the character concept with the white hot intensity of a thousand suns. There's little more I can say on the matter. I have no fond thoughts or complementary things to say.

 

Dragon Age II: Tallis.

 

If I'm being honest, I don't necessarily hate Tallis, I hate the "people are going to die if you don't help me, but I can't tell you what it is about" crap that she got saddled with as part of the plot of Mark of the Assassin, and that fact that her mission is successful no matter the choices made by the player.

 

I also don't like the scene where she kills the Chateau Haine guard and then gets all "there are different paths, they don't have to lead to the same destination." It's the wrong moment to have that conversation. Hawke tells her that the guard wouldn't be good at his job if he just walked away, and it's somewhat disingenuous of Tallis to think that her words would have actually swayed him.

 

 

Dragon Age Inquisition: Cole.

 

Dislike the character concept with the white hot intensity of a thousand suns. I don't like characters that are special snowflakes and become exceptions to established (either via precedent or because nothing indicate such a thing is possible), and both Cole and Justice fit into this.

 

Cole, at least, has the redeeming quality of providing insight into other characters. But that means other characters are interesting because of Cole, and Cole himself remains uninteresting to me. I feel bad leaving him at Skyhold, but I have no real incentive to take him anywhere.

[Lukas Trevelyan]

Oghren, Sera, Iron Bull, Sebastian, Anders. 

[Obb42]

Sebastian mothertrucking Vael. Doesn't get any of the other companions. Doesn't fit in at all.

[KaiserShep]

Dragon Age Origins: Zevran.

 

I end up killing him upon the initial ambush more than I recruit him, and I usually do so without waking him to interrogate him. There's no need. I didn't spare any of his collaborators, and I don't particularly feel the need to know who sent him. I can extrapolate that it is either Loghain or Howe (when I am a Human Noble).

 

And during the times I do spare him, we have nothing in common. My Warden is diplomatic enough that he doesn't betray me, but in truth, I think Morrigan and Alistair are both correct. There's no need to have him around.

 

I actually like Zevran, but of all the companions we've ever gotten in the entire series, I have to say that this one is easily the hardest to really conjure up a reason for the Warden to recruit, let alone spare. The same goes for elf-of-death Velanna.

 

I feel like a character like this requires a longer story to really effectively sell him/her as a potential ally (sort of like Zuko in ATLA), but I guess you can't really spend so much time with that, and obviously it requires a character more compelling than the likes of Zevran.

[makanivalur]

Oghren hands down. I have no time or patience for drunkards and found his story uninteresting to boot.

 

I also love to hate Vivienne. She's a cool character and I like some tension in my playthroughs so it works, but good grief I would not want to meet her in person. 

[Aren]

Morrigan. I dislike Oghren, Sten, Vivienne, Iron Bull and Sera (not having played DA2 partly because none of its companions beside Aveline sounded the least bit interesting to me, I can't comment on them) ... but at least they can be ignored. Morrigan, aside from the fact that i despise everything about her personality, is rammed down our throats repeatedly and has been from the start, look-look-look-isn't-she-awesome-don't-you-adore-her-too-style, stealing spotlight time and lines from the characters I actually want to interact with, and it just makes me want to retch. It'll be even worse in future games if Flemeth is really dead now and Morrigan gets her power.

I know how you feel....that what i think about Morrigan, hawke translated it perfectly in 1:27

if only we could have get an option like that during the DR.

[G_Admiral_Thrawn]

Dragon Age: Origins- Loghain. I never spare him, because doing that would do the Archdemon's work for him (supposed to be a brilliant general, and yet he's either a coward or incompetent). For NPCs, definitely Issolde- voice that makes "fingers across a chalkboard" sound delightful, deserves the murder knife, and hates Teegan getting any action.

 

Dragon Age 2- Sebastien. Not for his personality (I never use him), but because he overlaps with Varric. Tallis also is annoying. But the real hate is toward Petrice. I think she's a ******, but that would be insulting bitches everywhere. I want to ask her "The Qunari are minding their own business. Ask yourself why the church is losing members, and change that"

 

Dragon Age Inquisition- None of them really stood out (Bioware is losing what I feel is their strong point- character development). They are all flat and one-dimensional (although I liked Cassandra, Solas, and Varric- which is my mage party and Dorian wasn't that bad), but the worst are Blackwall (who seems to degrade Lelianna''s intelligence, she was with the Grey Wardens, yet she missed the fact that Al and the Warden were theonly two Wardens in Fereldan), Cole because a lot of what he says makes no sense. Sera is basically a walking toilet humor relief. And the worst of the worst is Vivienne. A "mages belong in the Circle, except me, who gets to be a noble and enjoy life" gets old real quick.

 

I've noticed a lot of hate toward Velanna and DA2 Anders (and Fenris and Merril). I thought Velanna was atleast justified. Sure, humnas weren't the ones who slaughtered her clan (this time), but considering Darkspawn are supposed to be mindless, is it really a surprise she blamed the wrong party, especially given how humans treat the Dalish?

 

Anders gets a lot of hate of what he did at the end of DA2. I actually supported that, to a certain extent. Grand Cleric Elthina WAS useless, Sure, Dumas was Viscount, but as Act 3 showed, he really didn't have much power. Elthiuna was the GRAND CLERIC, and the limit of what she does is tell Orsino and Meredith to go to thier rooms (and her Act 2 appearance is even worse "I'll deal with my stolen seal when it is appropriate." When it is appropriate is when Hawke told you. You didn't know it before (maybe), but now that you know, it is your responsibility. With an insane Meredith, a Grand Cleric not doing a thing to stop the crimes committed in the Circle (like Tranquilizing Harrowed Mages and removing any and all communication with the outside world), and a city designed to corrupt, what was Anders supposed to do? Remember, the Circles are prisons for people who committed no crimes.

 

I don't understand the hate toward Fenris. Sure, he's a walking pile of whiny angst, but if you were an abused slave who has no happy memories whatsoever, wouldn't you be one as well?

 

Merril is actually pretty cool. She's seems to be the one blood mage who realizes that blood magic is a dangerous, but useful, tool. She cares about her people, and is willing to do anything to help them.

[FadelessRipley]

but the worst are Blackwall (who seems to degrade Lelianna''s intelligence, she was with the Grey Wardens, yet she missed the fact that Al and the Warden were the only two Wardens in Fereldan), 

The tiny point I'd make there is that during the Fifth Blight, Blackwall was stationed in Val Chevin in Orlais.  His address to his recruits about Loghain's stubbornness is found in the codex. 

 

Though on a similar point to yours there - the fact that Leliana didn't work out his backstory was a bit annoying, and came across as sloppy writing. But, again, he was based in Orlais and it was over ten years ago. Plus, Wardens tend to be sketchy about their business. 

[Andromelek]

DAO: Alistair, he is on the top of my hated characters for being a complaining moron who wants to point with the finger someone to blame him/her for his problems plus, with all the media we've got about him, you can realize that he is such an hypocrite, a poor tactician and basically a waste of oxygen for the world.

DA2: I'm going to pick Anders, I don't hate him, and with people like Meredith around I understand why someone would try to free the mages with those means, but he was dumb enough to aim his stupid bomb on the wrong target and even more dumb to go and claim that he did it.

DAI: Vivienne, is there any other choice? She joined to the Inquisition with the sole purpose of earn more power for herself, I neither like the fact that she is ok with oppressing the mages while she is pretty fine running free out there as a normal person. Is too soon to put her on top, but I have the feeling that she will earn it, the only thing she has on her favour is that at least she is more clever than the other two.

[NoForgiveness]

Most hated - Vivienne. Grrr. What makes it worse is the fact that there's nothing the inquisitor can do. Can't toss her out in the cold, can't punch her, can't call her a ******...

Dog - ****** useless waste of a companion slot. And annoying as ******.

Templar Carver- So warden Carver really grows the **** up, becomes his own man and all and that's cool. But Templar Carver is the complete opposite. Pathetic little pisshead is just a walking pile of spite.

least favorites -
Sten - personality is meh but his dao face really bugs me... to the point that i don't really use him much.

Wynne- just gets on my nerves with her "advice"

Sigrun - struck me as just odd and meh. Nothing fantastic about her.

Sebastian - hes okay. Aside from the preaching and whining and threatening to burn the city down for one person.

Solas - boring and bald. 2 strikes buddy.

Dorian - boring. Make me want to hit him when he's actively defending slavery and trying to argue that tevinter's slavery is better than the qunari's version of slavery.

Blackwall - aside from his twist, he's a complete bore. Yawn. I really like him and Sera together though. Some really great banter there.

Iron bull - He's okay. Not fantastic and not horrible.