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Well, aside from villains who I'm obviously supposed to hate ...

 

Bianca. I really dislike Bianca. And I generally like everybody. That smug attitude and parting threat just rubbed me the wrong way, though. :angry:

Yeah, I'm with you on that one. Which is a shame, because I really wanted to like her.

 

Yeah, I get it. Varric has some questionable friends, and I expected her to be at least a little underhanded... but I expected to see some real regret on her part, some indication that the separation is as hard for her to endure as it is for him. Instead we get sultry and sarcastic. It makes sense that he would fall for someone sultry and sarcastic, but that seems to be all there is. After her parting threat, I wanted to snap back "He thinks the world of you, you know. It would be nice if you tried to deserve it."


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I don't even hate Sera, unlike most people.
And Vivienne is an admirable woman even if you don't like her personality.

But Bianca... yeah. She is a sodding pile of nug droppings.
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Here's a MP DLC I would totally support: Let Inquisition agents perform a hit on Bianca. That way, Varric could grieve and move on to someone who deserves him.



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Vaughan Kendells and Petrice.



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That way, Varric could grieve and move on to someone who deserves him.


Like Hawke. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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I think I've posted here before, but I've wanted to post the entire list for each game. I don't actually hate some of these characters on the list, but there is reason I dislike them. 

 

Dragon Age: Origins: Alistair, Wynne, Isolde, Goldanna, Branka, Vaughan.

 

Dragon Age: Origins: Awakening: Justice, Velanna.

 

Dragon Age II: Tallis, Anders, Mother Petrice, Isabela, Sebastian, Fenris.

 

Dragon Age: Inquisition: Sera, Vivienne, Bianca, Fiona, Iron Bull (I have nothing against bull, but he's just meh).


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 I'm not exactly a fan of Bianca, but the way her detractors get worked up about her "threat" is a bit.. ridiculous.

 

 

It is not an actual threat, smart ones. That was just her telling you, "Take care of Varric for me," in her own way.


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In both DAO and DAI I pretty much like everyone. Some, like Oghren and Blackwall, aren't very interesting, but I wouldn't go so far as to say I dislike them. And I actively adore most characters that people have raged about in this thread.

 

DA2, though... well, even there it's a little complicated, because I really want to like everyone there, too. I like them in theory, the concept of them. It's just that in practice, most of them just became too one-note and unreasonable. The only one who seemed to not actively ignore any fact that didn't fit what they wanted to believe was Varric, who really came across as Kirkwall's token non-douche.

 

But of course the prize for biggest douche goes to:

 

Anders. Someone said upthread that Bioware writers seem to read a lot of blogs. I can believe it, because Anders sounds exactly like the most world's mst obnoxious and self-righteous blogger - "oh why won't you see that I'm the most oppressed person in all of history? HAVE YOU NO HEART?!" And like any such person, his natural enemies aren't actually the ones oppressing him, it's the majority of people who just want to live their lives and not devote all their time to fighting against one particular injustice in a world that's full of injustices. "I have removed all possibility of compromise, for there is no compromise," he sanctimoniously proclaims at the end. He's achieved the ultimate goal of of the activist blowhard: he's bullied everyone into assuming either the role of Ally or the role of Enemy, because those are the only roles he can tolerate.

 

Now, Fenris is every bit as hateful, don't get me wrong, but I'm inclined to let him off the hook because 1) he's got some serious trauma in his past that has given him some understandable emotional problems, and 2) he seems to be at least partly aware of those problems and be trying to cope with them with what maturity he can muster - to control himself when he can, and to apologise for his outbursts when they get the better of him. He's also, at the end, able to rise above it even if you don't have full Friendship/Rivalry with him and join you in supporting the mages if you point out his double standard.

 

Anders, by his own admission, does not have any angsty backstory to justify his behaviour. No one's ever actually hurt him, he's just outraged about the fact that they could have. It's all a matter of principle for him, all about how inherently wrong it is that he doesn't get to be free. The fact that most people, people who weren't born with sparkly superpowers, are also not particularly free is apparently lost on him - it's all about him and what people aren't allowed to do to him. Oh, he'll get fired up about injustices to other mages, but only because he takes it personally - when it comes right down to it, he's perfectly willing to throw an entire Circle under the bus if that's what it takes to force moral clarity upon the world.

 

I'm actually sort of impressed with the writing behind Anders. Everything about his transformation from compassionate idealist to deranged fanatic feels completely true to life. Not only have I seen a ton of people like Anders, but when I was younger I am terribly afraid that I was very much like Anders (though I never blew anything up because of it, and nor, to the best of my knowledge, did those other people). But exactly because of that, everything about him infuriates me.


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It is not an actual threat, smart ones. That was just her telling you, "Take care of Varric for me," in her own way.

Her own way of saying make me want to show her my own way of throwing a giant fireball at a dwarf. :P


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 I'm not exactly a fan of Bianca, but the way her detractors get worked up about her "threat" is a bit.. ridiculous.

 

 

It is not an actual threat, smart ones. That was just her telling you, "Take care of Varric for me," in her own way.

The threat is nothing more than a trivial annoyance, but it would have provided the perfect opportunity to have a private word with her out of Varric's earshot. I don't mind when characters are rude to the protagonist (Carver is one of my all-time favorite characters), but I don't like it when they're obnoxious and you don't even have the opportunity to reply. I had the same problem with Leliana and Tallis.

 

Mostly, though - and I speak only for myself - I really needed to see more vulnerability on her part to make her likable. Her actions put Varric directly in danger and when confronted with that truth, she snaps back at Varric about how if it were him, he would have just made up stories to cover his mistake. It's probably accurate, but that only makes it worse. She's kicking him when he's down. A genuine, unvarnished "I'm sorry" would have cut far more ice with me.


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Its tough to discuss a disliked character but alas there is at least always one in the bunch.  From the main cast I disliked the most was likely Josephine.  I had a hard time connecting and wanting to be involved with her story and it made me feel bad.  XD  I guess I don't like being made to feel guilty. XP

 

But for truly disliked reasons I'm still onboard with disliking Isolde, Mother Petrice, and Goldanna.  My trio of bad deeds.  Blah...Cannot see myself coming to like any of them anytime soon.


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The threat is nothing more than a trivial annoyance, but it would have provided the perfect opportunity to have a private word with her out of Varric's earshot. I don't mind when characters are rude to the protagonist (Carver is one of my all-time favorite characters), but I don't like it when they're obnoxious and you don't even have the opportunity to reply. I had the same problem with Leliana and Tallis.

 

Mostly, though - and I speak only for myself - I really needed to see more vulnerability on her part to make her likable. Her actions put Varric directly in danger and when confronted with that truth, she snaps back at Varric about how if it were him, he would have just made up stories to cover his mistake. It's probably accurate, but that only makes it worse. She's kicking him when he's down. A genuine, unvarnished "I'm sorry" would have cut far more ice with me.

 

This is true, although Bianca is hardly the first offender. When I compare Bianca to the favoritism we have to show Liara despite her rudeness, Bianca's barely a blip.



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This is true, although Bianca is hardly the first offender. When I compare Bianca to the favoritism we have to show Liara despite her rudeness, Bianca's barely a blip.

Despite the ME tags under my portrait, I've never played ME, so I wouldn't know. But I've heard it before from other people, and one of my friends who has played both ME and DA compares Liara to Leliana, so I don't disbelieve you.



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Yeah, I'm with you on that one. Which is a shame, because I really wanted to like her.

 

Yeah, I get it. Varric has some questionable friends, and I expected her to be at least a little underhanded... but I expected to see some real regret on her part, some indication that the separation is as hard for her to endure as it is for him. Instead we get sultry and sarcastic. It makes sense that he would fall for someone sultry and sarcastic, but that seems to be all there is. After her parting threat, I wanted to snap back "He thinks the world of you, you know. It would be nice if you tried to deserve it."

That would've been the perfect response. Too bad. I don't dislike Bianca, but that parting threat was a bit much.


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As for my most disliked companion in all of DA, there's Oghren. I despise Oghren, and I dreamed of rampaging through Bioware's offices and kicking the responsible one in the behind when I realized that of all the companions, it was Oghren alone who returned in DAA.


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Oghren, closely followed by Zevran.

Jesus, that dwarf was terrible. Who though it a good idea to make him return in Awakening...


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Man, I love Oghren.

 

Then his female counterpart, Isabela.

 

Hate IB the most... he's just an imitation of the real thing.

 

 

Anyways, I believe they put Oghren in DAA because they found that a lot of people didn't do Orzammar until late in the game.


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Man, I love Oghren.

Then his female counterpart, Isabela.


Heh, good one.

But Isabela has better hygiene.

Hate IB the most... he's just an imitation of the real thing.


People misunderstand the Qunari. They aren't drones, though they may aspire to be.

Some are real fanatics while others struggle with it. Bull probably never succeeded at giving up his identity, hence why he's so different.

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Just popped in here to say if anyone said Morrigan, i'll remember you..

 

and that's about it.


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DAO: Leliana, 

 

DA2: Fenris, Anders 

 

DAI: Dagna (Seriously Bioware, why), IronBull/Sera, Bianca, Cassandra, Josephine, Leliana, Vivienne



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As for my most disliked companion in all of DA, there's Oghren. I despise Oghren, and I dreamed of rampaging through Bioware's offices and kicking the responsible one in the behind when I realized that of all the companions, it was Oghren alone who returned in DAA.

 

He's not my least favourite character, but ... ugh. They really couldn't have made him more of a stereotypical/shallow/stupid generic crass dwarven drunk if they tried. Pretty much the one time when him opening his mouth didn't make me want to kick him in the teeth was at the gates of Denerim. And apparently what little positive character development he can have goes right out the window in Awakening (which I had no interest in and didn't play)? Honestly, if it was possible to come back as a ghost for some proper angry haunting, my Warden would probably do that to him for that.

 

I'm still holding my breath for a "real" dwarven companion and a nuanced insider's look at that culture, instead of "pseudo-human" Varric and "booze-brain" Oghren.



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Anders.  Though DA:I can go a long way to adding insult to injury in his pathetic character arc.

 

He commits murder and atrocities on behalf of a group who are (not even remotely) enslaved so that they can spit on his actions and then sell themselves into slavery.


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Anders.  Though DA:I can go a long way to adding insult to injury in his pathetic character arc.

 

He commits murder and atrocities on behalf of a group who are (not even remotely) enslaved so that they can spit on his actions and then sell themselves into slavery.

 

You forget time magic, which basically renders your argument pointless. Also connecting Anders to what happened at redcliff is naive at best.

 

If you didn't know, if you romance Anders and keep him alive, Hawke and Anders visit circles together and help mages escape. That probably includes killing Templars and making speeches etc... so based on how Anders can turn up in DA2, its actually a good end to a character arc for those who thought he can redeem himself. And this only applies to friend Anders since rival Anders personality is tossed aside in DA:I.

 

Anyway.

 

DAO: Sten

DA2: Sebastian

DA:I: Sera


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As far as people I was supposed to like go:

 

Origins: Velanna. Everyone else is rainbows compared to her, including Oghren. I actually killed her when I did my "real" Origins playthrough rather than deal with that again. I had never done that before or since. (Probably doesn't help that Grey DeLisle voices her, and she's in everything, so I just hear this one person all the time?)

 

DA2: Sebastian. I don't actually hate the guy, he's just so out of place compared to everyone else in the party. Also, Bethany. Yawn.

 

Inquisition: Blackwall. Bored me to tears until his personal quest, then I just loathed him. Gave him to the Wardens in hopes that the Joining might kill him, but he just has a bad attitude about everything afterwards if you save him. Post-game he's talking about having something on his resume now as a warden-recruit and I was just like....cool. When are they actually coming to pick you up, again?

 

Sera, whom I went into the game thinking I would romance, is in a distant second, since while she has absolutely no reason to be there she has about two redeeming qualities. Pranks and the jar of bees. Otherwise she's just way too grating and closed-minded for me to like. I didn't get her psychopath murder scene the first time since I told the noble to get lost, but if I had she'd have been gone so fast. As it is my Inquisitor was just too nice to give either of these characters what they probably deserved. 



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Anders and Tallis


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