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Is it just me or is Shepard more feminine in ME3?


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ExoGeniVI

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In ME1/ME2 she was more like a tomboy, But now shepard seems....more human and nicer even with Ren. Is it because Bioware put forced emotions on her?



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In ME3 they developed  Shepard as a character. Shepard was no longer the brick. When they did the voice acting in ME3 Hale wasn't reading from a paper script like she was in ME1 and 2. The voice actors had far better tools to work with.


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In ME3 they developed  Shepard as a character. Shepard was no longer the brick. When they did the voice acting in ME3 Hale wasn't reading from a paper script like she was in ME1 and 2. The voice actors had far better tools to work with.

Yeah, I remember an interview when she mentioned that for ME3 they actually got to hear what the other character was saying in their headphones, so they could adjust the lines accordingly. 



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I love how Hale softens her voice when she speaks to Kaidan (LI Kaidan) and Liara. I totally am glad they did the voice over sessions differently in ME3 because it helped me (as the player) feel the weight of moments. Like the after Thessia session where Shepard is talking to the Asari councilor. 

 

but especially with "That was for Thane you SOB!".  Priceless moment.


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she sounded like she always did, half whispering


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In ME1, she's pretty hardass which I get it since she have to be. But she have some feminine moments with Kaidan.. all breathy and flirty. In ME2, I always think Cerberus did something to her emotional state like they put a hormonal dampener or something. Remember when she woke up and Miranda and Wilson drug her, she have a panic attack and nearly died and then she woke up again and she's all business. That was definitely not normal. I guess, somewhere between post-Arrival and ME3, she found herself a therapist.

 

But I don't think Hale make Shepard becoming too feminine. Not that she couldn't do feminine well since she IS the current Disney's Cinderella... there's nothing Renegade Shepard about her. Her portrayal of Bastila Shan kinda fits with what some people actually want in FemShepard but I always find myself wanting to punch her... mother of all ironies....


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Well the modelling team certainly went down their own route of what an increase in femininity means.

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Ayup, Bioware developed a tool called "Vega" which stores all recorded lines of dialogue in a cohesive order so they can have semi-real acting back and forth when voice actors are just recording in a single booth, so if Jennifer hale has recorded a line, a voice actor recording an NPC talking to Shepard can listen to Jennifer Hale's line and then respond accordingly as if it was real-time.

 

They also decided to make more femshep specific animations and unique dialogue... unfortunately a lot of it was autodialogue so fx flirting with James Vega couldn't be avoided which really sucked for those who didn't want to do that.

 

 

...but i also have to be honest, now. I think Jen Hale didn't do THAT good of a job voicing Shepard in ME3. She has to reach a much wider range of emotions but somehow Mark Meer really bested her in this regard because whenever Mark played angry you really felt it, but with Jennifer it was mostly this angsty half-whispering that came out forced IMO.



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Whenever I'm angry.. I go all 'forced half-whispering' or hissing too because its either that or high-pitched yelling.. and that is annoying even to me. 

 

Jennifer Hale's natural voice is nothing like Shepard. Her British accent is flawless and she really do have wider range of tone and consistency that is superhuman. Try watching Totally Spies, Cinderella 2, KOTOR and Bioshock Infinite clips. Its really hard to typecast her as Shepard... unlike Mark Meer.

 

Honestly, Mark Meer's voice wasn't even unique. In fact, he sounds exactly like Casper Van Dien in Starship Trooper. And its too predictable...

 

Then again, I'm already biased for Nicholas Boulton (Male Hawke)... Mark Meer didn't make me shiver or wanna lick him or something..



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Slightly.

 

ME1 - Blank. (Male)

ME2 - Very Male.

ME3 - Clearly Male.

NME? - Somewhat Male.

 

IMO. Last one is obviously a prediction. By male I mean masculine, as opposed to feminine. I am not huge on gender fluidity/ambiguity, but I just want to say I don't really like using the specific words masculine/male and feminine/female for these matters, but oh well - that's language.

 

And I'm talking about the 'Shepard' avatar itself, male or female.

 

I think Bioware will be open to more and more femininity (including males acting like it; see Male Inquisitor with Iron Bull romance lol) in future games, including in Mass Effect. This does not mean there won't be masculinity.

 

My idea extends to eventually exploring beyond femininity and masculinity, and into much more abstract or alien states of being, and having that expressed by the protagonist, but we're DEFINITELY not there yet. For now, I think we can be glad (or not? depending on who you are) that Bioware is willing to increase the degree and amount of expressions by the protagonist that may be more conventionally/traditionally be considered 'feminine'. Oh no, emotion!!!!

 

 

In Mass Effect's case though, I think a number of people were more than ticked off that they were 'autodialoged' into it.



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In ME3 they developed  Shepard as a character. Shepard was no longer the brick. When they did the voice acting in ME3 Hale wasn't reading from a paper script like she was in ME1 and 2. The voice actors had far better tools to work with.

I quite enjoyed the chemistry Hale seemed to have with various characters.


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In fairness to Jennifer, during the ME3 readings after hearing the lines, she asked if she could ad lib some emotion to her reading, but was told no, that the readings of her and Meer's had to be as close to identical in expression as possible.



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In fairness to Jennifer, during the ME3 readings after hearing the lines, she asked if she could ad lib some emotion to her reading, but was told no, that the readings of her and Meer's had to be as close to identical in expression as possible.

 

Minor detail, but during the otherwise dreadful prologue, when Shepard says "They don't fear us", Hale definitely says is much differently than Meer, since she puts long pauses between each word to put special emphasis on this line, that, in my opinion, was a bit more effective.


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