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[Dai Grepher]

Spoilers for Here Lies the Abyss in this thread.

 

As we have seen, one character must stay behind and distract the Nightmare while the Inquisitor and the other NPC escape the Fade.

 

Based on what we see, this character gets impaled from behind, though it is difficult to tell.

 

I suggest that in the expansion the character that was left behind in the Fade be revealed to be alive, only with one very big difference...

 

He or she is now possessed by the Nightmare!

 

I think this would make for an interesting twist. This could also play a deeper role since each character can possibly have connections to other people in Thedas.

 

Hawke would obviously be the most shocking revelation of them all, especially if Varric returns in the expansion and sees his friend possessed by the demon. Rage, blame, pity, sorrow, guilt? Plenty of emotions to play off of. Throw in the Champion's romance option? The Champion's (possible) sibling? The story practically writes itself.

 

The other three options are easy. All three are warriors. So they can share the same combat attributes as a warrior Hawke.

 

Alistair would have a possible connection to Morrigan, or even to the Hero of Ferelden. He would have a definite connection to Teagan, Eamon, or Connor. Same with Leliana.

 

Loghain would have a possible connection to Morrigan. Also, the Hero, depending on choices. Queen Anora, obviously. Ser Cauthrien, possibly.

 

Stroud. Well... he's probably the least connected of them all. But he would have a possible connection to Bethany or Carver if either of them were taken into the Deep Roads and delivered to Stroud through Anders. If not? Hmm... well, I guess... random Wardens then?

 

In all three of these cases where a Warden sacrifices himself, Hawke is the one who escapes. Thus, each of these three Wardens has a connection to Hawke at the very least.

 

Now, best of all, this allows for each character to have a chance at being saved. Like Alistair, for example. So not only would we get to see the character again, we would get to fight them as well. And we would possibly have the chance to save them provided we make the appropriate choices.

 

Also, the Nightmare could use the character against the player by mentioning personal details. For instance, Nightmare Stroud could tell a Hawke with a Grey Warden sibling that he saved the life of his/her sibling, how can you possibly want to kill Stroud now? Or Nightmare Loghain could be tactical and tell the player to consider what would happen if he or she killed the Queen of Ferelden's father. Think of the international incident it would cause if you murdered him, Ferelden's finest general and Hero of the Fifth Blight. Or Nightmare Alistair, who if facing a female Hero of Ferelden who romanced him could call out to her saying, "I'm still alive my love, don't let it end here like this", as the Nightmare laughs and attacks her.

 

Also, it would be cool to have the Nightmare manifest itself in the form of weapons fitting whatever character is possessed.

 

Perhaps expelling the Nightmare from the victim will result in the weapon becoming loot, which can then be used. The weapon could even have the spirit of the Nightmare inside, and using it could have storyline implications.

 

Also, saving each victim could be different. As was the case with Lost in Dreams from Origins, going into the Fade to fight the Nightmare and free the victim could show a different world for each based on their memories. And the thing that keeps the victim in stasis is the thing they fear most. For Alistair, it could be losing his female Warden to some sickness, so he stays at her side until she gets better. Or if no romance for him, swap with Goldanna. Or some third thing if Goldanna not contacted. For Loghain, it could be defending Denerim from Orlesians and repelling their attacks to keep Anora safe. He can't leave while his country and family are threatened. Stroud? I don't know enough about him to come up with anything. Hawke? Depends on the character and outcome. Maybe an illusion where Hawke believes he or she is in heaven with the entire family gathered around. Who would want to leave paradise?

 

What does everyone else think of this? Agree? Disagree? Other suggestions or ideas?

[LadyLaLa]

I agree to most of this, with one suggestion. If he's not romanced and never met Goldanna (or even possibly if he did, since I wouldn't put it past him to seek her out after the Blight) swap the Warden for Duncan. If Stroud is the one possessed, then this might be a way to learn a little more about him

[sleasye74]

Damn with a little refining this could work
Did you just think this up or have you been thinking about it?
And the Duncan idea is prolly the best for Alistair

[9TailsFox]

I can her people cry over Bioware not respecting Hawke as our character.   I love your idea.

[Dai Grepher]

Thanks for the replies all.

 

LadyLaLa, I completely forgot about Duncan for some reason. That is a good idea. The story could be to where Alistair is convinced that Duncan survived Ostagar somehow. Then the player would have to convince Alistair to admit the truth. They could also point out that it's been 10 years or so since Ostagar, and ask could Duncan have survived the Calling that long. To which Alistair would have to admit that such a thing is impossible. This option could require a specialty like the historical knowledge perk in order to be available to the player.

 

sleasye74, thanks. I had thought it up about a day before posting. Thought it might be interesting. Before this I had thought about the Nightmare and how it might be cool to have it as a reoccurring enemy in closing rifts. Like, you see it through the rift and it sends its spiders after you. Or you have to destroy it's tentacles in order to close the rift, and it shouts at you through the rift. It would be like a reminder that the Nightmare still exists and could be getting stronger almost every time you encounter a rift. If it ever found a body to possess then it might be able to come through. But then I thought of this new idea because I had just remembered, "oh snap, it DOES have a real body to possess". Then I thought, would the Nightmare really just kill the person who stayed behind? There would be no real reason to. I would think the Nightmare would rather use that person, or at least torment them and feed off their fears. And that led to the idea that the Nightmare would possess them by using those fears.

 

9TailsFox, that's funny. You're right that most take issue with Hawke being controlled by BioWare. I guess this idea would just make it official, as Hawke literally would be controlled. But it also wouldn't be the Hawke that players know.

 

On the flip side, a Hawke who escaped the Fade, like mine did, would return in order to experience the saga with the man who did get possessed by the Nightmare. In that case Hawke might be good as a playable character, even if just as a companion. That would give the players some control of Hawke again.