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[BraveVesperia]

Yeah. I'd also like it if there were pushy characters who would continue to chase you even if you initially said no. How often do we get something along those lines as a player? With our love interest initially reluctant, but we're able to seduce them over time? Well, let the NPCs do the same. And it's realistic. there are plenty of people like that out in the world (and many of them have ended up succeding....)

That would have to be done pretty carefully, or people might start feeling harassed by the LI. I know I would if I shut them down a couple of times and they kept bothering me. Plus it comes across pretty creepy (like femShep repeatedly pressuring Vega in ME3 when he's made it clear he doesn't want to start anything).

 

I would like to have a blend of flirting styles with LIs though. Ones like Merrill would definitely be the pursued, but ones like Isabela would definitely be the pursuer (or both, if your protag is also flirty). It seemed really odd that Bull was such a cold fish when he happily flirts with other people, like Cass, Dorian, Blackwall (?) and NPCs.

 

One thing I really liked is when it can go both ways. When you meet Zevran, he flirts right off the bat, so you know he's interested. Then you can either respond positively to his flirting, start flirting yourself, or just be friendly. If you go the friendly route, you eventually get this conversation starter: "do you stare at everyone like that?" which works for both flirty and shy protags. I think Alistair's equivalent is "you're really handsome, you know?" which is obviously straight up flirting.

[PhroXenGold]

That would have to be done pretty carefully, or people might start feeling harassed by the LI. I know I would if I shut them down a couple of times and they kept bothering me. Plus it comes across pretty creepy (like femShep repeatedly pressuring Vega in ME3 when he's made it clear he doesn't want to start anything).

 

Oh, certainly, there needs to be an absolute "stop this now" at some point, but I'd want to see some NPCs who would at least give chasing you another shot after you've turned them down the first time.

[Arakat]

I definitely support this suggestion, OP. I love the romances, but the flirting just feels forced for the "no-nonsense" type of character I usually play; for me, starting a romance is, in its current form, more about metagaming than the natural progression of the relationship. I was actually hoping some the DA:I love interests would be the ones initiating the flirting once you get on their good side, but alas, it's all up to the Inquisitor.

 

Just gimme a Zevran 2.0, Bioware!

[BansheeOwnage]

Please, let's not have active pursuers anymore. We've had bad experiences with those in the past.

[Battlebloodmage]

I can see it happen with a straight romance, as long as it's not a bi option since guys would generally freak out if another guy happen to hit on them and make it seems like they're being preyed upon the entire game. Hell, Dorian doesn't even hit on them and there are threads talking about how they're being hit on by him or Iron Bull.

[Delilah Faye]

Please, let's not have active pursuers anymore. We've had bad experiences with those in the past.

 

You mean Anders? If so yeah, I guess that *was* pretty intense.

 

I can see it happen with a straight romance, as long as it's not a bi option since guys would generally freak out if another guy happen to hit on them and make it seems like they're being preyed upon the entire game. Hell, Dorian doesn't even hit on them and there are threads talking about how they're being hit on by him or Iron Bull.

 

 

I see what you mean, but that's a shame for those who want to play gay/bi male PCs and romance someone who makes the first move. I like the setup in DA2 because nearly everyone has the same options. I understand that not every game should be the same though, and that the characters in DAI are different.

 

I just wish there was a way for everyone to be happy. 

[BansheeOwnage]

You mean Anders? If so yeah, I guess that *was* pretty intense.

 

 

 

I see what you mean, but that's a shame for those who want to play gay/bi male PCs and romance someone who makes the first move. I like the setup in DA2 because nearly everyone has the same options. I understand that not every game should be the same though, and that the characters in DAI are different.

 

I just wish there was a way for everyone to be happy. 

As for the first part: I actually meant Liara from ME. But the thing she does have in common with Anders is that you basically have to be mean to both to not romance them.

 

For the second: I agree with you, and I don't think Bioware should take the people who are offended by homosexual content into account. And honestly, I don't think they will. I hope. Ha.

 

Edit: By "offended" I mean crazy over-the-top offended. It's normal to feel uncomfortable when someone you aren't interested in hits on you, but some people really go overboard with it.

[Delilah Faye]

As for the first part: I actually meant Liara from ME. But the thing she does have in common with Anders is that you basically have to be mean to both to not romance them.

 

For the second: I agree with you, and I don't think Bioware should take the people who are offended by homosexual content into account. And honestly, I don't think they will. I hope. Ha.

 

Edit: By "offended" I mean crazy over-the-top offended. It's normal to feel uncomfortable when someone you aren't interested in hits on you, but some people really go overboard with it.

 

Ah, I didn't think of that one. I thought she took it well when I told her I wasn't interested in her that way, but it was definitely a little sad to let her down.

 

So you made that really great rough draft for this scenario, do you have a kind of character that you would prefer to see trying to initiate a romance? 

[BansheeOwnage]

 

So you made that really great rough draft for this scenario, do you have a kind of character that you would prefer to see trying to initiate a romance? 

Thank you. Well, I have mostly only thought about what kind of character would. Most likely the Iron Bull type of character. I also wouldn't be surprised if someone who is self-confident but also not overly promiscuous would do it, like Blackwall. So I suppose the funny thing for me is I would like to be able to play a shy introvert who is bad at starting things, but I also tend to like the more introverted or emotionally scarred characters (Alistair, Cullen, and Anders, Fenris to a degree), and they are the least likely to initiate! Ha. Hope that answers your question.

[Delilah Faye]

Thank you. Well, I have mostly only thought about what kind of character would. Most likely the Iron Bull type of character. I also wouldn't be surprised if someone who is self-confident but also not overly promiscuous would do it, like Blackwall. So I suppose the funny thing for me is I would like to be able to play a shy introvert who is bad at starting things, but I also tend to like the more introverted or emotionally scarred characters (Alistair, Cullen, and Anders, Fenris to a degree), and they are the least likely to initiate! Ha. Hope that answers your question.

 

That's my ideal as well. 

 

I'm thinking that it could work for a more introverted character, because this doesn't necessarily have to be done brazenly on their part. They could be cautious, and only attempt to pursue after they've felt a bond grow. I'd really like that, anyway. For my part, I'd rather this were someone with a more serious demeanor than The Iron Bull.

 

That is to say nothing against The Iron Bull, of course. He's fun. 

[Delilah Faye]

Does anyone else have any preferences regarding a character who takes initiative? 

 

Also, thank you everyone who was so supportive of my thread. I was nervous, and you all helped me feel a lot more confident about posting this. 

[BansheeOwnage]

I agree that it could work for an introverted or shy character like Alistair. It would just have to be less in your face and more subtle. I'd like that. To be honest, I only posted at first because no one else had yet. These types of threads can get derailed fast, so I tend to avoid them and I tried to get in ahead of all of that. I'm glad it didn't happen though. And I'm glad we helped!

 

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[Hanako Ikezawa]

Does anyone else have any preferences regarding a character who takes initiative? 

 

Also, thank you everyone who was so supportive of my thread. I was nervous, and you all helped me feel a lot more confident about posting this. 

They are subtle about it. 

[HuldraDancer]

I think I saw the suggestion of a somewhat pushy LI who flirts with you a few times? I wouldn't mind something like that maybe pushy isn't the right word but someone who does flirt a few times with you maybe a couple play flirts then moves to more serious flirts when they get closer to the player character? I wouldn't mind seeing something like that in fact I'd really like to see it so long as there's at least one option to turn them down that doesn't come off as disgusted or jerky and they don't give it weird Anders timing again.

[Pasquale1234]

Does anyone else have any preferences regarding a character who takes initiative?

In some situations, I think it's appropriate - although I would want to be able to turn them down gently and not have them be resentful or stalkerish.

During my first ME1 playthrough, I remember really liking the fact that Liara not only initiated the mutual attraction conversation, but also came to Shepard's cabin. As the CO of an Alliance vessel with rules about fraternization, it would have been entirely inappropriate for Shepard to have initiated anything with crew members.

Here's an idea: give the PC the first flirt line, but if the player does not choose it, then have the potential LI open flirting later in the same or a different conversation.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

In some situations, I think it's appropriate - although I would want to be able to turn them down gently and not have them be resentful or stalkerish.

During my first ME1 playthrough, I remember really liking the fact that Liara not only initiated the mutual attraction conversation, but also came to Shepard's cabin. As the CO of an Alliance vessel with rules about fraternization, it would have been entirely inappropriate for Shepard to have initiated anything with crew members.

Here's an idea: give the PC the first flirt line, but if the player does not choose it, then have the potential LI open flirting later in the same or a different conversation.

Well, Liara isn't technically a crew member since she isn't part of the Alliance military. She was more of an outside consultant.

[Pasquale1234]

Well, Liara isn't technically a crew member since she isn't part of the Alliance military. She was more of an outside consultant.

How did I know someone would bring that up - lol.

Realistically, military anti-fraternization rules apply 24x7, on board or ashore, for any other member of the Alliance. I would assume they would also apply to allies.

As the Normandy's CO, Shepard is responsible for every person on board. Liara is, of course, not in the Alliance, perhaps technically not a "crew member", but she was still a squadmate and subordinate to Shepard.

In any case, I prefer to be able to role-play characters who would not initiate intimacy with subordinates.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

How did I know someone would bring that up - lol.

Realistically, military anti-fraternization rules apply 24x7, on board or ashore, for any other member of the Alliance. I would assume they would also apply to allies.

As the Normandy's CO, Shepard is responsible for every person on board. Liara is, of course, not in the Alliance, perhaps technically not a "crew member", but she was still a squadmate and subordinate to Shepard.

In any case, I prefer to be able to role-play characters who would not initiate intimacy with subordinates.

Nope, it only applies to Alliance personnel. Garrus, Liara, Tali, and Wrex are fair game under the Alliance regulations. 

Plus Shepard is a SPECTRE, so really no rules apply to them anymore. It's a perk of the job. 

 

So you never romance anyone ever then, since all LIs are subordinates of the PC? 

[phaonica]

Does anyone else have any preferences regarding a character who takes initiative? 
 
Also, thank you everyone who was so supportive of my thread. I was nervous, and you all helped me feel a lot more confident about posting this.

An LI that takes the initiative could definitely be sexy. But then, I'm pretty much down for any LI drama you can think of.

[Pasquale1234]

Nope, it only applies to Alliance personnel. Garrus, Liara, Tali, and Wrex are fair game under the Alliance regulations.

You have a copy of those regs? All I have are the vague comments Ashley made about fraternization in a conversation about Kaidan - which I try not to confuse with my own military experience.
 

Plus Shepard is a SPECTRE, so really no rules apply to them anymore. It's a perk of the job.

Yet some players might prefer to stick with rules. Or their own (or their character's presumed) moral compass - which might include a strong aversion to seeking sexual favors from subordinates.
 

So you never romance anyone ever then, since all LIs are subordinates of the PC?

Hitting on someone is not the same thing as being receptive to advances from them.

Other than to repeat my previous line, I think I'm finished with this conversation.
 

In any case, I prefer to be able to role-play characters who would not initiate intimacy with subordinates.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I was just asking and explaining. Didn't mean to upset.

[Seraphim24]

I agree that the slate of DA:I characters were pretty passive on the whole... I would not have minded more aggressive characters.

 

The problem though I had with Isabella and Ander's is they were kind of like pure aggression though... a combination of shyness and aggression would be better than either extreme IMO.

 

Morrigan was kind of balanced for instance.

[o Ventus]

 

Morrigan was kind of balanced for instance.

 

Errr, no. This is the same Morrigan who repeatedly said that love is a stupid weakness that only serves to get people killed. Morrigan wasn't balanced at all, the Warden has to push and push for a romance.

[Seraphim24]

Errr, no. This is the same Morrigan who repeatedly said that love is a stupid weakness that only serves to get people killed. Morrigan wasn't balanced at all, the Warden has to push and push for a romance.

 

Well are we talking like serious romance or sex? I'm not sure Zevran or Leliana or whoever coughing it up with minimal prompting counts as the consumation of deep romance necessarily.

 

I feel like Morrigan initiated more serious overtures than most of the other characters, possibly even Alistair, and not necessarily sexual overtures. I think you can have sex that's sort of meaningless and sex-less conversation that's pretty seriously romantic...

[o Ventus]

Well are we talking like serious romance or sex? I'm not sure Zevran or Leliana or whoever coughing it up with minimal prompting counts as the consumation of deep romance necessarily.

 

I feel like Morrigan initiated more serious overtures than most of the other characters, possibly even Alistair, and not necessarily sexual overtures. I think you can have sex that's sort of meaningless and sex-less conversation that's pretty seriously romantic...

 

The only thing that Morrigan initiates is the Dark Ritual. Even if you have sex with her and break it off afterwards, it's initiated by the Warden. The "romance" romance is by no means whatsoever started from her end.