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darreCZ

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Hey, 

 

few days ago, i read here an article about bad behavior on voice chat. Last night i encountered it too. Is there a way to report it? You know, my favorite class is katari, was playing only on threatening and some newbies started calling me "wonderful" names - cheater is the only one i can write here. And ofc, there were more names i dont like the minors to hear. I´m a soldier and i can handle a lot, but there should be borders....Have u encountered very bad behavior on voice chat as well? what do u think about it?



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What system do you use? It seems like consoles allow you to mute, block, and/or report other players while pc does those minus the reporting.

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if you know who you are, those people can tell you either truth or lie (and then they are liars, nothing more). But if you don't know who you are...


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I´m a PC guy. I´m well aware, that i can mute other ppls. But i dont think its just about me. If somebody is calling me names or just a cheater (katari+to the death is the way everybody is able to maintain full guard with katari), i can deal with it:-) but to tell the truth dont want my child or other minors to hear those guys....i read the same opinion on the threat i read few days ago. I think there should be a way how to deal with them - i mean report them. The question is if BW ll do something with them



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Doubt it, the PC platform does not have a system like the consoles do, and in the end it's up the to console manufactorers to enforce their policies, not the community at large.



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It's an awkward thing playing online. Tbh, I don't do it at all when the kids are awake. It's probably not too bad for them to see me play, but I still choose not to.

Bad language online is one of the reasons I don't let my son play anything with strangers. He did used to play minecraft online till I found his message inbox full of abusive messages. I am extra wary since his wonderful cousin keeps showing him stuff I don't want him to know and do, so now I can't even allow my child internet access because of all the things I caught his cousin showing him. Like how to video call strangers online on Skype, or wipe his history. Little bastard.
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darreCZ

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You r right, i´m overreacting i think, but i know, that the game r playing many minors, i just dont like the idea they may hear something like that. Sry that i brought it up. And to tell the truht i´m very suprised i didnt read "and we r done here" post yet...



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I don't think Bioware/EA are responsible as online experience is not rated or monitored or recorded. But EA Terms say you can report at help.ea.com :

http://www.ea.com/te...rvice#section11



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darreCZ

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Ofc its not monitored or recorder. As i already said - i´m well aware nothing ll be done about it, but ... i just wanted to say it. Call me "an old school" but i just hate this kind of behavior. thx u guys for ur opinions and answers



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It's an awkward thing playing online. Tbh, I don't do it at all when the kids are awake. It's probably not too bad for them to see me play, but I still choose not to.

Bad language online is one of the reasons I don't let my son play anything with strangers. He did used to play minecraft online till I found his message inbox full of abusive messages. I am extra wary since his wonderful cousin keeps showing him stuff I don't want him to know and do, so now I can't even allow my child internet access because of all the things I caught his cousin showing him. Like how to video call strangers online on Skype, or wipe his history. Little bastard.


I mean no disrespect, but I feel you got it backward like a lot of parents do.

Blocking Internet and cultivating the "keep them from the world" attitude is exactly what the Chinese government do... Where does the "protecting" end?

On the other hand, preparing our kids to take the hit when it comes sets them for life.

Both serves the same purpose of protecting our kids, they just do it in a different way. Just food for thought...
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I mean no disrespect, but I feel you got it backward like a lot of parents do.

Blocking Internet and cultivating the "keep them from the world" attitude is exactly what the Chinese government do... Where does the "protecting" end?

On the other hand, preparing our kids to take the hit when it comes sets them for life.

Both serves the same purpose of protecting our kids, they just do it in a different way. Just food for thought...

By God you`re right! He should buy him porn magazines and stock him on booze and cigarettes! Alternatively teach him how to swear like a sailor - that`ll make him a man!


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Yes, and the mute function works just fine. You should always strike preemptively and mute everyone as soon as you land in a lobby anyway.


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TBH most of the foul mouth players I have played with are usually from the US. 

 

Whenever i am using dedicated servers in my country I don't seem to come across abusive stuff but usually in lobbies filled with US all I hear is people calling each other f*$*ots etc. 

 

I hope in future game devs age lock games or parents learn how to use parent locks so I never have to be in a lobby filled with hate speech.



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By God you`re right! He should buy him porn magazines and stock him on booze and cigarettes! Alternatively teach him how to swear like a sailor - that`ll make him a man!

 

This is a logical fallacy known as a Straw Man, related to Reductio ad absurdum. If a parent doesn't excessively shelter their child, then they must be buying them porn and booze as a means to prepare them for life.

See, by avoiding the grey area in between you thus attempt to illustrate the absurdity of your opponents argument, and in doing so make an absurd claim yourself. This is a sign that a person does not have a valid argument to contradict the opponent.

 

Truth is that a child can be raised without being sheltered yet still maintain a certain degree of moral fiber. I am one such example of that. However. since "morality" is not an absolute concept, my morals may not agree with yours. With that in mind, please do not engage in an opponent ill-equipped. It is what leads to needless negativity when debates break down into childish bickering.


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Loooooooooooooooooooooooooool



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I mean no disrespect, but I feel you got it backward like a lot of parents do.

Blocking Internet and cultivating the "keep them from the world" attitude is exactly what the Chinese government do... Where does the "protecting" end?

On the other hand, preparing our kids to take the hit when it comes sets them for life.

Both serves the same purpose of protecting our kids, they just do it in a different way. Just food for thought...

 

You can't compare parenting to controlling a country of 2 billion people.

I often see China as an example of what is wrong with the internet but USA is equally as bad with spying on their own citizen and citizens of the world so the great Green Wall of China is the lesser of the evils if you compare it to peoples right to privacy.



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I mean no disrespect, but I feel you got it backward like a lot of parents do.

Blocking Internet and cultivating the "keep them from the world" attitude is exactly what the Chinese government do... Where does the "protecting" end?

On the other hand, preparing our kids to take the hit when it comes sets them for life.

Both serves the same purpose of protecting our kids, they just do it in a different way. Just food for thought...

 

It depends on the age of the child in question, doesn't it?  I would expect to educate a somewhat older child but a younger child needs protection.  Too many truly crazy people in the world, really, and a "virtual" problem can sometimes evolve into a real-world risk.  That's too great a chance to take.  If it's just the average "bad language,"  racial epithets and the like -- education is the answer but, again, for a somewhat older child. 



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People use voice chat?


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I mean no disrespect, but I feel you got it backward like a lot of parents do.Blocking Internet and cultivating the "keep them from the world" attitude is exactly what the Chinese government do... Where does the "protecting" end?On the other hand, preparing our kids to take the hit when it comes sets them for life.Both serves the same purpose of protecting our kids, they just do it in a different way. Just food for thought...


You are missing a lot of other information I didn't disclose here. I initially gave my son a lot of freedom rather than limit him and instead monitored him just in case. He is only 9 years old, but his brother is only four - content that would be suitable for my 9year old isn't always suitable for my four year old, and that's an issue I have to consider.

I agree that overly protecting a child can cause problems because then they are not prepared for facing the real world, but at the same time I see no need to introduce him to things when there is no need to. If he is happy playing in Disney infinity with his younger brother, why would I buy him something like mortal combat, a game his cousin regularly plays? Even if it caused no harm, what extra life lessons would he learn? I'm sure the blood and Gore wouldn't bother him in the slightest, and he wouldn't go around hitting people etc, but what would be the point in letting him?

I have no problem with people doing what they want with their own kids, I'm not going to lecture anybody or look down on them simply because I choose to be less or more conservative than them. I only have issue when others kids are showing mine content I do not wish them to see.

A nine year old video calling complete strangers on Skype however is not something I want him doing, friends and family perhaps but not strangers. It's an uneccesary risk.

His cousin was looking up rude things on the internet at a sleepover, I don't think pornography is acceptable for a child to see AT ALL. He then showed my son how to search for it, and wipe his history after so I couldn't find out.

Instead of stopping my son from having the internet, because mine does have parental control so he cannot access these sites, I just made him promise me not to add any strangers without checking with me first, and not call anyone on Skype without asking. I asked him not to look at anything inappropriate and trusted him. Afterwards I caught him calling a stranger he had become obsessed with on Skype, and three times I caught him with strangers on his friends list I hadn't been asked about. He searched for videos of sexy ladies on YouTube amongst other things.

It wasn't what he had done, but the fact he promised me not to, and did it anyway. I gave him a second chance, explained why and told him it was his last chance. He did all three AGAIN. No internet for him.

Before his cousin showed him, he never used Skype and didn't know how to use it, had no intention of using it either. He watched cartoons and minecraft videos on YouTube, and had free access to play with all his school friends online on his PS3. I could trust him and he played nicely.

I would argue, that his cousin having no limitations has resulted in more harm, than mine having very little.

I have a four year old younger son too, I don't want him exposed to it.
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Moral of the story, don't have kids.


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Moral of the story, don't have kids.

 

I bet you wish your mom and dad would've been given that advice.


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Oh, another thing, my sister and me no longer speak to one another any more since my son inappropriately touched her daughter. So don't tell me there's no real harm done, and kids shouldn't have boundaries.

My son knows what he shouldn't do, and I've always "educated" him. If he hears bad language he doesn't repeat it, if he sees something he doesn't imitate it usually. Till all this we never had a problem at all. He has never been excessively sheltered, just carefully monitored.

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DrKilledbyDeath

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I bet you wish your mom and dad would've been given that advice.

And the winner of the "Troll skills of a 10 year old" award goes to Teophne!



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And the winner of the "Troll skills of a 10 year old" award goes to Teophne!

 

Pales in comparison with your brilliant advice. I took it as a funny so I thought I'd make a funny too.

In case you were actually being serious (really hoping you weren't) I would advice you to scroll up a bit and read what Mortiel said a few posts back.



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And that is my cue to exit. I don't care to get into a debate on this subject as it will end up about as well as arguing with a brick wall.