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#26
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Indifferent.

He needs to die though.

well as the god of rebellion for a bunch of heathens, his options aren't very varied

 

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Warden Commander Aeducan

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Indifferent.

He needs to die though.

I don't see a happy ending for him, though, and for all I know when he and the Inquisitor meet again it'll be as enemy.



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well as the god of rebellion for a bunch of heathens, his options aren't very varied

AUCTOR VULT!


Death would simplify things.

Also consorting with the enemy is intolerable.

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I love how Solas disapproving is the new Morrigan.

 

That's funny. I never had any real problem with Morrigan's approval. Now Alistair, on the other hand...

 

Actually I have to meta-game to make it work for me, but yes, I prefer Solas hating most of my Inquisitors to them being friends -- views too disparate to realistically be friends.

 

I miss the Rivalry mechanic.



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It's just he's a opinionated little turd who disproves everytime you actually think for yourself.


Yeah and then rants about how much he hates the Qunari and Templars for stopping people thinking for themselves. Really, thinking for yourself is okay, just so long as you come to same conclusions I do.
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Yeah and then rants about how much he hates the Qunari and Templars for stopping people thinking for themselves. Really, thinking for yourself is okay, just so long as you come to same conclusions I do.

Ironically, that's mean he shares some similarity or had something in common with the Qunari and Templars he hated. He's pretty much wanted to shove his beliefs and ideals down to people's throat, and find it acceptable when other come to the same conclusions as him.



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He's delusional and dangerous.

He's like a bald Vanilla Ice
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Indifferent.

He needs to die though.

Seriously. He was stupid enough to give an orb of tremendous power to Corypheus of all people. That deserves death. On the second playthrough when I heard him jesting to Varric about how they had to fix a human mess I wanted to strangle him.

 

 

Ironically, that's mean he shares some similarity or had something in common with the Qunari and Templars he hated. He's pretty much wanted to shove his beliefs and ideals down to people's throat, and find it acceptable when other come to the same conclusions as him.

He doesn't always make sense. He's always saying "my people" referring to elves and then after Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts he protests thinking of elves as his people. Make up your mind on what your "people" mentality is, Solas!



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Disbanding causes a lot of disapproval. Varric will slightly approve if he was brought for the mission and you chose to rebuild the Templar Order, but other than that, he won't approve or disapprove. 



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Disbanding causes a lot of disapproval. Varric will slightly approve if he was brought for the mission and you chose to rebuild the Templar Order, but other than that, he won't approve or disapprove. 

It causes approval as well. Sera and Solas greatly approve. Cassandra (even though she says, "We need templars but we do not need the order. It's too filled with corruption. There's no saving it."), Blackwall, and Iron Bull will disapprove. Vivienne will slightly disapprove. There isn't much difference between the two; not that it's difficult to get these characters approvals up high anyway if you wish it.



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 ^ I much rather make Cass and Vivienne happy than Sera and SolASS!



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I personally prefer to ally with them. Also I think conscripting them counts towards Viv as Divine instead of Cassandra. Lastly, if you help Cullen get off Lyrium a fair number of the Templars will follow his lead and either stay with the inquisition or join the new Seeker order (if you have Cass rebuild them). It just feels all around better. Honestly for a Divine Cass ending Allying with the Templars always seems better than conscripting to me.


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I personally prefer to ally with them. Also I think conscripting them counts towards Viv as Divine instead of Cassandra. Lastly, if you help Cullen get off Lyrium a fair number of the Templars will follow his lead and either stay with the inquisition or join the new Seeker order (if you have Cass rebuild them). It just feels all around better. Honestly for a Divine Cass ending Allying with the Templars always seems better than conscripting to me.

Alliance gives Cassandra 10 points, Vivienne 5 points and Leliana -1 point.
Conscription gives Cassandra 5 points, Vivienne -5 points and Leliana 1 point.

I like conscription and Cullen on Lyrium, if Cass is Divine with this setup some templars leave to rebuild the Templar Order under the Divine, the majority stay with the Inquisition mind form the core of the Inquisition army.

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I personally prefer to ally with them. Also I think conscripting them counts towards Viv as Divine instead of Cassandra. Lastly, if you help Cullen get off Lyrium a fair number of the Templars will follow his lead and either stay with the inquisition or join the new Seeker order (if you have Cass rebuild them). It just feels all around better. Honestly for a Divine Cass ending Allying with the Templars always seems better than conscripting to me.

I always conscript and still get Cassandra as divine with the same thing with the templars with them following Cullen's lead by withdrawing from lyrium and most deciding to stay with the Inquisition. It's irrelevant though because using this as a defense for either implies heavy meta-gaming which I don't like affecting my choice.

 

After DA:O/Awakening though we'd be fools to take the slideshows as canon.



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Alliance gives Cassandra 10 points, Vivienne 5 points and Leliana -1 point.
Conscription gives Cassandra 5 points, Vivienne -5 points and Leliana 1 point.

I like conscription and Cullen on Lyrium, if Cass is Divine with this setup some templars leave to rebuild the Templar Order under the Divine, the majority stay with the Inquisition mind form the core of the Inquisition army.

 

Ahh, I didn't realize people had figured out the exact points for the choices in game. That's interesting :)



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Ahh, I didn't realize people had figured out the exact points for the choices in game. That's interesting :)

You can read about them on the wiki. :D

http://dragonage.wik...Divine_election


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Yeah and then rants about how much he hates the Qunari and Templars for stopping people thinking for themselves. Really, thinking for yourself is okay, just so long as you come to same conclusions I do.

Wait, Solas disapproving of your opinions is the equivalent of imprisonment/thought control?



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Wait, Solas disapproving of your opinions is the equivalent of imprisonment/thought control?


Considering that he likely disproves of the notion of free will in general.

Yes.
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 ^ I much rather make Cass and Vivienne happy than Sera and SolASS!

 

The irony here is that Sera has a lot more in common with Cassandra and Vivienne's viewpoints on a lot of things, whereas she shares very little with Solas.


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Wait, Solas disapproving of your opinions is the equivalent of imprisonment/thought control?

 

Considering that free will could lead to some people having a difference of opinion in favor of the Templars or Qunari philosophies, yes.



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Considering that free will could lead to some people having a difference of opinion in favor of the Templars or Qunari philosophies, yes.

 

But the Templar and Qunari philosophies oppress other people's free will. With the Templars it's forcing Mages into the Circles and forcing the Chantry's views by sword-point. With the Qunari it's forcing people into pre-defined roles that they can never leave or they're made into mindless laborers.



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But the Templar and Qunari philosophies oppress other people's free will. With the Templars it's forcing Mages into the Circles and forcing the Chantry's views by sword-point. With the Qunari it's forcing people into pre-defined roles that they can never leave or they're made into mindless laborers.

 

For the Templar, a mage may actually want to have them around, as they saved the mage from being stomped/stoned/whatever it is they have, and they feel safer. For the Qunari, they do get willing converts who feel that their life means something under the Qun than being a meager nobody in "freewill" societies.



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For the Templar, a mage may actually want to have them around, as they saved the mage from being stomped/stoned/whatever it is they have, and they feel safer. For the Qunari, they do get willing converts who feel that their life means something under the Qun than being a meager nobody in "freewill" societies.

 

Some people may want that, but most people don't. And, more often than not, it doesn't matter to Templars or Qunari if people want it or not; Mages are going to the Circles and the 'bas' will convert to the Qun. That's at the core of these groups and that's why Solas is against them.



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Some people may want that, but most people don't. And, more often than not, it doesn't matter to Templars or Qunari if people want it or not; Mages are going to the Circles and the 'bas' will convert to the Qun. That's at the core of these groups and that's why Solas is against them.

 

But to not even consider that people may want it just because a core thing is what you are against is wrong/imprisoning thought.



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But to not even consider that people may want it just because a core thing is what you are against is wrong/imprisoning thought.


I think it's the libertarian pov that often gets touted more oft then not.