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[4everbubslover]

As per title, I would like to discuss with you the large and growing diffusion of alcohol consumption in the Dragon Age series.

 

• In DA Origins, we had Oghren: he sought relief in the bottom of a mug, his life marked by failure and abandonment (Brank left him because she had a lesbian relationship, IIRC).

 

• In DA 2 the number of characters who assumed alcoholic beverages increased, even after the end of the Blight (which I presume was the first cause of the growth of business for bartenders and taverns in 9:30): 1) Isabela: she is always hanging out at "The Hanged Man", selling her body because she lost everything after the shipwreck that killed her crew. Probably all of this was caused by her abusive husband. 2) Fenris: the first thing he does when he moves in the slaver estate is drinking the wine his former master forgot there, even smashing some bottles on the wall while he was drunk (risking to hurt his friend Hawke). 3) Varric: another victim of the dwarven caste system. He feels that he belongs to the Stone, but he is forced to stay on the surface and so he just drowns his problems in a bottle. 4) Hawke: even the main character is an alcohol addicted. Surrounded by blood mages and corrupted templars, abandoned by his/her siblings (Carver/Bethany can both die while Leandra becomes Frankenstein's monster 2.0), he/she spends most of his/her time drinking beer at "The Blooming Rose", always ending up in bed with one of the male/female prostitutes working there (increasing his/her chances of getting an STD).

 

• In DA Inquisition basically everyone is a drunken slacker: except for Cassandra, Solas, Vivienne and Leliana, every single companion or advisor wastes his/her time drinking wines and spirits and gambling during several games of Wicked Grace. Iron Bull fantasizes about sex with high dragons, Sera can't cut her hairs in a fashionable way, and these are only a few examples of what alcohol is causing all over Thedas.

 

 

What are your opinions? Do you think the writing team has gone too far with this obsession for drinking?

 

Let the discussion begin!

 

 

 

[turuzzusapatuttu]

Oh Jesus, I must be drunk. I'm already in love with you.

 

*looking OP's profile picture and nickname*

 

[Bob Walker]

Vivienne likes to drink too.

[Just Here For Popcorns]

Either I had to much of rum and tequila or does Fenris for some reason reminds me of Snooki?

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[Personette]

There is a difference between social drinking & self-destructive drinking. Oghren was self-destructive, Fenris was (somewhat) self-destructive. The others? Social. 

[Zatche]

I find the drinking makes the characters more relateable and believable.

*burps*

[Unpleasant Implications]

Alcohol makes everything better. If we could just sit Corypheus down, share a bottle of Tevinter's finest and maybe play a few card games, I'm positive Inquisition could've ended far sooner, far less violently, and far more hilariously.

[AresKeith]

Is this thread cereal?

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Don't mind me, I'm just gonna sit here with my beer.

[Big I]

-snip-

 

You're wrong about Varric. Firstly, hes an andrastian and doesn't follow the Ancestors. Second, he's on the surface because his father was caught fixing Provings, not because he came from a casteless family; House Tethras was part of the noble caste.

 

 

Isabella isn't a prostitute. As with Merril and Anders it's unclear how she makes her living; one banter between her and Aveline in Act 2 might mean that Isabella's a madam, whereas a note you can find in the Hawke estate indicates she might be a treaure hunter or adventurer (she apologises for leading Hawke into giant spiders).

 

 

There's a difference between drinking and having a drinking problem. Oghren (and possibly sad Alistair) are essentially functioning alcoholics, whereas Wynne is something of a beer snob. Everyone else, even Isabella, seems to be fine.

[Nefla]

What the eff?

[Arakat]

"except for Cassandra"

 

Have you ever seen her disapproval scene? 

[Dobby]

Nah I think we still need more alcohol and drunk buffoons in the next game.

 

[Isaidlunch]

I don't mind how many drunks they put in the game as long as they keep the alcohol away from my pure, innocent Inquistor. I'd rather not disown her like I did to Shepard after Citadel turned her into a drunk hussy.

[Panda]

I think you are exeggerating a lot for some characters. I don't see Hawke and Varric abusing alcohol in any time in the game. They drink sometimes, yes, but most of people IRL do as well. I don't, but, it's abnormal that I don't. Also this isn't about drinking, but I don't in anytime see Isabela selling herself in the game. Sex? Yes. But unless I missed something, she doesn't take money.

 

In medieval times alcohol was very popular cause there wasn't many ways to store liquids without them getting bad. Alcohol was one way and taverns were popular so it fits to theme.

 

No idea where you got that other characters than Dorian in DAI abuse alcohol. Drinking sometimes with your friends is not that unless you are very judgemental absolutist.

 

Some characters in other hand seem to be alcoholic. Oghren is obvious. Fenris and Dorian aren't so clear, they use alcohol quite much, but it doesn't seem to be problematic for them, at least for Dorian.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Is this thread cereal?

[NextGenCowboy]

You discount Leliana, yet according to Cole, she drinks wine regularly enough that he has taken to putting honey in it. I think it's quite obvious she's also an alcoholic.

[DomeWing333]

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Iron Bull fantasizes about sex with high dragons, Sera can't cut her hairs in a fashionable way, and these are only a few examples of what alcohol is causing all over Thedas.

Bull fantasizes about sex with high dragons while he's sober...and fighting them (although I also wouldn't put it past him to fight them while drunk). Sera can't cut her hair because she's Sera. Also why she can't string together a coherent sentence.

[Aren]

Good time in Kirkwall

My Hawke was like  "WHOO is this man TEEEEGAN!"

 

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[Dutchess]

I don't think Fenris was drunk in the scene you mentioned. He took one sip before smashing the bottle for the lulz. He was drunk in his Act 2 Questioning Beliefs though, on the anniversary of his escape. Seems like a decent occasion to me. I think the only characters who frequently consume a lot of alcohol are Oghren and Isabela. Maybe Hawke too if you roleplay him/her as the Hanged Man's best customer. And of those only Oghren seemed to do it to such an extent that it was interfering with his life.