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[Andrew Waples]

However the jargon and the know how (and the price) is keeping me away. As an example of what kind of games I'd like to play is the witcher. I'd guess the witcher is known for high fidelity and would require a better PC. I know 3 is coming to console (playstation owner) but it'd be like playing me3 with no knowledge of the previous games. That's why I'm interested in the steam machines, but even those have jargon and I don't know which ones would guarantee that I'd be able to play every game. With at least minimal settings. Would this be able to get the job done? http://store.steampo...com/app/353390/

[Deathangel008]

great that they dont communicate which "NVIDIA® Geforce® GTX - 2GB GDDR5" graphic cards are actually used. plus (from what i´ve seen) alienware tends to create pointless hardware combinations.
i wouldnt wait for this notebook-hardware crap and go for a "classic" desktop PC, ideally self-built or at least self-configured, you usually get the most "bang for the buck" this way.

but yes, at least version B, C and D should be good enough to "play every game. With at least minimal settings." (though they all seem to be missing a SSD), but i really wouldnt recommend them.

[Deathangel008]

i really love people who ask a question and then disappear without any reaction on given answers/suggestions

[Farangbaa]

Just assume your advice was so good all his doubts have vanished.

[mousestalker]

Here is the thing about PC gaming. The vendors that make the complete systems typically charge more for what you get than if you build it yourself.

The parts they call attention to are generally quite nice. But the components they don't mention are not.

It's pretty easy to build your own system. A good way to start is to take the spec lists for a vendor made system (say by Alienware), go to Newegg and spec out the cost (See what it would cost to DIY). Then go back to Newegg and see what the highest ranked components at that spec would cost. Then surf the Internet for better bargains.

Typically you'll find you have a really good rig at the same or less (for Alienware) the cost.

And if you are worried you'll botch building it, just do a search for "Building your own PC" on Youtube and Google. Tom's Hardware also has some excellent guides.

One unspoken benefit of building your own PC is that your sexual energy and confidence will increase by a factor 2, at the minimum. Your preferred sexual partners will find you nigh irresistible. Fact.  

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Here is the thing about PC gaming. The vendors that make the complete systems typically charge more for what you get than if you build it yourself.

The parts they call attention to are generally quite nice. But the components they don't mention are not.

It's pretty easy to build your own system. A good way to start is to take the spec lists for a vendor made system (say by Alienware), go to Newegg and spec out the cost (See what it would cost to DIY). Then go back to Newegg and see what the highest ranked components at that spec would cost. Then surf the Internet for better bargains.

Typically you'll find you have a really good rig at the same or less (for Alienware) the cost.

And if you are worried you'll botch building it, just do a search for "Building your own PC" on Youtube and Google. Tom's Hardware also has some excellent guides.

One unspoken benefit of building your own PC is that your sexual energy and confidence will increase by a factor 2, at the minimum. Your preferred sexual partners will find you nigh irresistible. Fact.  

 

   

[Garryydde]

   

r8 my pic the ladies find me irresistible because of my PC building prowess

[mousestalker]

   

 

You know it's true. PC builders are supah hawt.

[mousestalker]

r8 my pic the ladies find me irresistible because of my PC building prowess

*snip*

An increase of a factor of 2. He is rocking those tighty whities.

Also, that's the start of the build pic. Here is the after build pic of the same guy.

Spoiler

Guys, this could be you!

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

r8 my pic the ladies find me irresistible because of my PC building prowess

 

He's got a cool colour theme for his builds and he's synchronising his own clothing to match it. Now that's stylish.

[Voxr]

As others have said you're best bet is probably to build one yourself. If you need help I suggest heading over to tomshardware. There's quite a bit of people willing to help you with whatever questions you have (seriously they live for that sh!t). 

 

My problem with a prebuilt is the price/quality ratio. And Alienware has been know to put in a good card and maybe cpu with subpar ram, PSU, MOBO, etc.

 

This is you on a prebuilt system that costs too much and the quality may or may not be lacking:

Spoiler

 

And this is you on a system you built yourself:

Spoiler

 

 

 

Also what mousestalker said about the sexual prowess is true.

 

Go get'em sexy!

[TurianRebel212]

PC gaming is overrated but I think necessary for anyone who legitimately plays games. But if you have a PS4 or XB1 or both or whatever, I think you really shouldn't worry about it. 80 percent of 3rd party games on PC are terribad optimized and PC exclusives aren't really in the wow factor like console one's. I'm a big FPS fan so playing comp FPS for the most part, are better on PC and sh!t all over console FPS, with the exception being HALO. So.... Yeah. 

 

As far as building it yourself, I built my first gaming PC in 99 when I was 9, but I had help from my uncle. My second build was around 2002ish and yet again I had help. My first "do it yourself" build was my Crysis build in 2007. Point being, I'd seek help if it's your first build ever. Maybe find a friend that will take an hour out of their weekend to help put it together for you. 

 

Also, don't fall into the money pit of PC gaming and GPU's, most notably Nvidia's newest Maxwell GPUs (9xx series). Get a GPU that has lots of Vram and a good memory bus. I'd advise a 290x from sapphire or MSI right now, as they'e cheaper than say a GTX 980 by a lot and have twice the vram and twice the bus.....

 

 

Like this

 

 

http://www.newegg.co...7-847-_-Product

 

http://www.newegg.co...7-834-_-Product

 

 

*side note*

 

lol, at nvidia's 256 bit bus.....I mean, that is some weak sh!t. 

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

If your monitor is medium size you can save money and get 280/280x sapphire or MSI instead.

 

*leaves before critics bash him*

[Deathangel008]

Also, don't fall into the money pit of PC gaming and GPU's, most notably Nvidia's newest Maxwell GPUs (9xx series). Get a GPU that has lots of Vram and a good memory bus. I'd advise a 290x from sapphire or MSI right now, as they'e cheaper than say a GTX 980 by a lot and have twice the vram and twice the bus.....
 
 
Like this
 
 
http://www.newegg.co...7-847-_-Product
 
http://www.newegg.co...7-834-_-Product
 
 
*side note*
 
lol, at nvidia's 256 bit bus.....I mean, that is some weak sh!t.

you do know that the GTX980 is faster than the R9 290X? not that i would recommend this overprieced piece of garbage, but a bigger MI/higher bandwith doesnt automatically mean that the card is better than another card with a a smaller MI. look at the R9 280/R9 285, 240GB/s vs 176GB/s bandwith, and both are equally fast (still wouldnt recommend the R9 285 due to its small VRAM).
you just cant compare different graphic card architectures by numbers.
another question: do you really need 8GB VRAM? best deal atm is imo the R9 290 without X, preferably the Sapphire Vapor-X.
 

*leaves before critics bash him*

for what reason? still good cards.

[Voxr]

If your monitor is medium size you can save money and get 280/280x sapphire or MSI instead.

 

*leaves before critics bash him*

[slimgrin]

 

 

However the jargon and the know how (and the price) is keeping me away. As an example of what kind of games I'd like to play is the witcher. I'd guess the witcher is known for high fidelity and would require a better PC. I know 3 is coming to console (playstation owner) but it'd be like playing me3 with no knowledge of the previous games. That's why I'm interested in the steam machines, but even those have jargon and I don't know which ones would guarantee that I'd be able to play every game. With at least minimal settings. Would this be able to get the job done? http://store.steampo...com/app/353390/

 

I'll just give one protip since I'm following the specs for TW3- the GTX 980 is what's recommended for high, and there's no guarantee it'll even run the game on ultra at 60 FPS. Google the price of that card and then take a deep breath as your heart sinks into your gut. So unless you have a really big budget, you won't be maxing that game out. The good news is, a 3-4 hundred dollar card will still play the game on medium, and most other games maxed out. You should be able to put something together for little over a grand, and you'll have an open source, one hundred percent backwards compatible gaming machine. 

[KingTony]

Don't jump on the sinking ship, mate.

[slimgrin]

Don't jump on the sinking ship, mate.

He said he wanted to buy a PC not a console. 

[KingTony]

He said he wanted to buy a PC not a console.

Which is the point of my statement.


PC is great if you want to play old games, but for new games, just buy a PS4.

[Voxr]

lol

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

I'll just give one protip since I'm following the specs for TW3- the GTX 980 is what's recommended for high, and there's no guarantee it'll even run the game on ultra at 60 FPS. Google the price of that card and then take a deep breath as your heart sinks into your gut. So unless you have a really big budget, you won't be maxing that game out. The good news is, a 3-4 hundred dollar card will still play the game on medium, and most other games maxed out. You should be able to put something together for little over a grand, and you'll have an open source, one hundred percent backwards compatible gaming machine. 

 

I think it's a TW3 über-hype that thinking no GPU can run the game on max setting.

My old (2009) 1GB Nvidia graphic card could often run DA:I on Medium-High settings and 20-25 FPS despite everyone said it only can run the game on low settings.

[Deathangel008]

PC is great if you want to play old games, but for new games, just buy a PS4.

[Dobby]

What's this PC thing?

[Voxr]

What's this PC thing?

Pregnancy Contracts.