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My point is that these parents are contributing ammunition to the side of the debate that wants to eradicate - or at the very least water down - all video games...

 

Seems you have a sort of paranoia attack... :blink:

 

Besides... More you prohibit or make dangerous a thing, the more that becomes seductive. So that bunch of idiots against our loved videogames will do a favor to us, at the end! :lol:



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oh, also, you want idiotic parents? i had a father order a double scotch for his 14 year old :D

 

now dont get me wrong i fully support underage drinking but the parent ordering takes all the fun out of it...



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Focusing on how this affects video games instead of the millions of children that are being disensitized to violence is equally depressing.

I got nothing against violent video games but they shouldn't be in the hands of children. Their minds aren't developed enough to handle them properly. The end.

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I've been playing violent shooter games since I was 7 or 8 as well. (Doom, Hexen, Duke Nukem, Quake, Unreal etc.)

 

My parents were fine with it as long as I did my homework.  ^_^



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Okay...

 

But, where's the evidence where game companies diluted their violence as a result of that killing?

These sorts of things take time. I don't know how old you are, but I remember over 20 years ago that PG rated films were much less watered down than they are now. And PG13 had nudity and at least one or two F bombs. 



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These sorts of things take time. I don't know how old you are, but I remember over 20 years ago that PG rated films were much less watered down than they are now. And PG13 had nudity and at least one or two F bombs. 

 

Three years passed since the Huffington Post posted the article you cited.

 

I'm asking for evidence here. You're not providing.



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You guys do realize that the more parents allow their very very young children to play these games, the bigger the push for more and more watered down content there will be from anti-video games/"video games are the devil" groups , right? And when the push is strong enough - they get what they want - especially the higher up their position in law and politics. 
 
My point is that these parents are contributing ammunition to the side of the debate that wants to eradicate - or at the very least water down - all video games...


I don't think those people will ever be relevant, and even if they are in the west, it would still be a degree of separation from the Japanese market, and the effect would probably be benign even for the western market, and I don't care much either way because it wouldn't be the end of the world to me if video games stopped being made, much less only the violent ones, much less the scenario where the violent ones are still made but toned down. Not that it matters because those people aren't relevant, and you're likely just getting caught up in the 24-hour-news-cycle huffing and puffing that amounts to nothing.

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These sorts of things take time. I don't know how old you are, but I remember over 20 years ago that PG rated films were much less watered down than they are now. And PG13 had nudity and at least one or two F bombs. 

thats more of a american problem, the rest of the world doesnt care



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Focusing on how this affects video games instead of the millions of children that are being disensitized to violence is equally depressing.

I got nothing against violent video games but they shouldn't be in the hands of children. Their minds aren't developed enough to handle them properly. The end.

 

Exactly. I mean... 7 years old? That's just a parent being selfish and lazy. They want the game to play for themselves, and they don't feel like going out of their way to monitor their kid. So they just say, "Ehhh um... don't do this in real life." and think that will solve the problem. For some kids, sure it works just fine. But there are a lot of kids who are incredibly violent at school and those aggressive behaviors are tantalized by the games and films they're allowed to see. They're so desensitized that these kinda kids don't think twice before they beat the holy hell out of another kid. I've had issues with increasingly violent students as young as 5, and they know every bad word to throw at another kid. I've seen instances where some of these kids also go home and stalk their classmates online and send death threats. It escalates.  I'm not saying the video games caused this - I'm just saying that for it to go on record that these kids are exposed to this kind of stuff is just destructive on all sides of the issue. Destructive for fans who are responsible. Destructive for the kid who isn't sensitizing him or herself to others. 



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Three years passed since the Huffington Post posted the article you cited.

 

I'm asking for evidence here. You're not providing.

 

Oh I'm sorry. Three years is just ancient history. 

 

Also - google it yourself. You clearly have a computer. 


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cant we just let the kids do whatever they want?



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Oh I'm sorry. Three years is just ancient history. 

 

Also - google it yourself. You clearly have a computer. 

 

Why Google it myself? I don't have the burden of proof to make a claim.



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cant we just let the kids do whatever they want?

 

No.



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No.

yes we can, natural selection and all that :P



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yes we can, natural selection and all that :P

 

What I've learned about kids is that family-friendly educational places are chaotic and disgusting. No thanks.



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I wasn't allowed to play violent video games as a kid, and I kill people and small animals all the time. What's your point?

I happen to agree with you, OP. Parents need to get the f*ck on the ball.

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What I've learned about kids is that family-friendly educational places are chaotic and disgusting. No thanks.

the sarcasm is strong with this one



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The ratings are meant more for parents to be aware of what kind of games their kids are playing and to decide if their child can handle it or not, because in theory the parents are supposed to be the only ones who can buy them.

 

Of course it doesn't always play out that way, or some parents will just buy games without bothering to look at what's in them.

 

When I was 5 I was playing games like Warcraft 2 and Doom. My parents did make sure to reinforce the idea that you don't do that in real life, but it was a bit more than "hey, you shouldn't do that". They also made sure I finished my homework/chores and went outside on a regular basis.

 

I think the problem here is less that a 7 year old is playing violent games and more that parents are being poor parents but not wanting to blame themselves. I agree that parents need to be more on the ball, but I don't think that simply playing the video game is the problem.

 

I'm not too worried about the whole "video games are the devil!" as that's just a repeating cycle that has be done with rock n roll, rap music, comic books, violent movies, and now video games. They never win.



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I think the problem here is less that a 7 year old is playing violent games and more that parents are being poor parents but not wanting to blame themselves. I agree that parents need to be more on the ball, but I don't think that simply playing the video game is the problem.

And since you can't keep kids out of the hands of dumb parents. Maybe it's a good idea to keep violent games outta the hands of their mongoloid children.

Also... It does effect children. Observe a child who's parents use an xbox 360 with COD as a baby sitter. Then observe a child who's never played a video game. The difference in their behavior will blow your god damn mind.

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Also... It does effect children. Observe a child who's parents use an xbox 360 with COD as a baby sitter. Then observe a child who's never played a video game. The difference in their behavior will blow your god damn mind.

 

Only if they literally use "COD as a baby sitter" instead of making sure the kid also performs activities outside of playing video games.



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And since you can't keep kids out of the hands of dumb parents. Maybe it's a good idea to keep violent games outta the hands of their mongoloid children.

Also... It does effect children. Observe a child who's parents use an xbox 360 with COD as a baby sitter. Then observe a child who's never played a video game. The difference in their behavior will blow your god damn mind.

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Only if they literally use "COD as a baby sitter" instead of making sure the kid also performs activities outside of playing video games.


Even if we assume this is the case. How many parents would you say do that?

I worked at a gamestop for three years and I saw an endless stream of parents that did that ****.

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And since you can't keep kids out of the hands of dumb parents. Maybe it's a good idea to keep violent games outta the hands of their mongoloid children.

Also... It does effect children. Observe a child who's parents use an xbox 360 with COD as a baby sitter. Then observe a child who's never played a video game. The difference in their behavior will blow your god damn mind.

 

You aren't going to keep violent games out of the hands of kids, because the bad parents will just buy them for their kids without thinking about it anyway.

 

I don't even know where you would begin in trying to enforce such a rule. Not in a way that wouldn't be highly illegal itself.

 

The part I bolded makes them a bad parent. Try comparing a child who played violent games with a good parent to a child who never played a video game.



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