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Let me summarize this DLC for you: "We were not Skyrim enough"
They tried to go even more Skyrim and made the game even more of a disaster.

If you want to be Skyrim so much instead of going this way just release a toolkit.

You clearly have no idea of what you are doing, let modders fix the game for you.
Also, quit making games, don't hurt Mass Effect further.

Too late to quit with dignity but you still can quit to prevent putting more abomination into de the world.


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Because only Bethesda is allowed to have a fantasy game set in a cold, wintery place with pseudo-viking people. It's not like the Avvar have existed in the lore since Origins. Or that Blizzard did it back in 2008 with World of Warcraft.

 

I assume that's what you're getting at, anyway. It's hard to tell when the 'complaint' (and I call it that loosely) is vaguely "you're trying to hard to be Skyrim".


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Let me summarize this DLC for you: "We were not Skyrim enough"
They tried to go even more Skyrim and made the game even more of a disaster.

If you want to be Skyrim so much instead of going this way just release a toolkit.

You clearly have no idea of what you are doing, let modders fix the game for you.
Also, quit making games, don't hurt Mass Effect further.

Too late to quit with dignity but you still can quit to prevent putting more abomination into de the world.

I am also not pleased by the turn of events, but do you do anything but complain?


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OP, your tears are absolutely delicious. 


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I dunno. I don't see anything wrong with this new DLC. It adds story content, after all. Its what people wanted more of for the game?


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What are people assblasted about now?


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Because only Bethesda is allowed to have a fantasy game set in a cold, wintery place with pseudo-viking people. It's not like the Avvar have existed in the lore since Origins. Or that Blizzard did it back in 2008 with World of Warcraft.

 

I assume that's what you're getting at, anyway. It's hard to tell when the 'complaint' (and I call it that loosely) is vaguely "you're trying to hard to be Skyrim".

 

Bethesda pretty much owned it, so it's hard to top it.  Bioware has stated its admiration for Skyrim and it's pretty obvious.  They should just do Bioware (character rich gaming) and let Bethesda handle what it does best (everything else).

 

I mean, Skyrim was unprecedented gaming.  I can't imagine what Blackmarsh (or whatever they choose) will be like now that they've had years to improve.


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So much whining for something we know next to nothing about. 


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What are people assblasted about now?

 

This one I have no idea about either. I understand the complaints for the main game about the lack of story content in it, and the incredible amount of fetch quests etc. That one is valid. But when Bioware actually adds story content to the game, its bad? I don't get that one.


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I am not whining because I am buying nothing until they fix the hair.


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This one I have no idea about either. I understand the complaints for the main game about the lack of story content in it, and the incredible amount of fetch quests etc. That one is valid. But when Bioware actually adds story content to the game, its bad? I don't get that one.

Well more DLC is great, the exclusivity deal, not so much.


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OP, your tears are absolutely delicious. 

Glad to be helpful.
 

Because only Bethesda is allowed to have a fantasy game set in a cold, wintery place with pseudo-viking people. It's not like the Avvar have existed in the lore since Origins. Or that Blizzard did it back in 2008 with World of Warcraft.

 

I assume that's what you're getting at, anyway. It's hard to tell when the 'complaint' (and I call it that loosely) is vaguely "you're trying to hard to be Skyrim".

How many times do people need to post that they were looking agressively into Skyrim? That they made Inquisition for "a generation that had Skyrim as their first RPG experience". Keep on ignoring it as much as you want, won't change reality available on google for anyone with internet connection.

 

I dunno. I don't see anything wrong with this new DLC. It adds story content, after all. Its what people wanted more of for the game?

I feel bad for you believing it, you were one of the good guys. I knew they fixing the game would spoil you. It was good to meet you before you becoming a sith o/



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Bethesda pretty much owned it, so it's hard to top it.  Bioware has stated its admiration for Skyrim and it's pretty obvious.  They should just do Bioware (character rich gaming) and let Bethesda handle what it does best (everything else).

 

I mean, Skyrim was unprecedented gaming.  I can't imagine what Blackmarsh (or whatever they choose) will be like now that they've had years to improve.

 

Personally, I'm leaning towards the Summer Isles. Nothing against Argonians, but I have a weakness for all things magic. 


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Glad to be helpful.
 

How many times do people need to post that they were looking agressively into Skyrim? That they made Inquisition for "a generation that had Skyrim as their first RPG experience". Keep on ignoring it as much as you want, won't change reality available on google for anyone with internet connection.

 

I feel bad for you believing it, you are one of the good guys. I knew they fixing the game would spoil you. It was good to meet you before you becoming a sith o/

 

 

Are you angry that it's not Skyrim enough or angry that they're copying one of the greatest games of all time?  I'm not seeing the problem.

 

I mean, I don't care if they can't do Vikings, as well.  I care that the hair sucks ass.  I have Skyrim for Vikings and dragons.  I like not having to wait until the 2nd half of a game to fight them.


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Glad to be helpful.
 

How many times do people need to post that they were looking agressively into Skyrim? That they made Inquisition for "a generation that had Skyrim as their first RPG experience". Keep on ignoring it as much as you want, won't change reality available on google for anyone with internet connection.

 

I feel bad for you believing it, you are one of the good guys. I knew they fixing the game would spoil you. It was good to meet you before you becoming a sith o/

 

Hehehe. I am not turning into a sith, by any means. But since the game sorely lacked story content, and Bioware is adding more of it, I see no reason why this is bad. It won't change my overall view of the game at all, but credit where credit is due.



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Personally, I'm leaning towards the Summer Isles. Nothing against Argonians, but I have a weakness for all things magic. 

 

I wish wish it was Summer Isles but I heard it was Blackmarsh.  Then again, if they expanded Skyrim I'd also be happy.  I waited YEARS for a new Elder Scrolls and from the moment I saw them reveal it to the moment I saw the open credits and heard the sound of the wagon I was gone.

 

I lived in Skyrim for a year.

 

If Bioware wants to do a "Skyrim" with Vikings and death and dragons and more slashing and blood and dragons ....and they get Gaider back I'd **** my pants.


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Bethesda pretty much owned it, so it's hard to top it.  Bioware has stated its admiration for Skyrim and it's pretty obvious.  They should just do Bioware (character rich gaming) and let Bethesda handle what it does best (everything else).

 

The only things that DAI has in common with Skyrim are the same things that are in nearly every RPG. The one thing I could conceivably see taken from Skyrim itself is the large, open envionments, since DA in the past was largely confined to corridors and semi-open pathways.

 

 

 

I mean, Skyrim was unprecedented gaming.  I can't imagine what Blackmarsh (or whatever they choose) will be like now that they've had years to improve.

 

"Unprecedented". Have you played any Elder Scrolls game before Skyrim? When Skyrim was still new, I remember a lot of die-hard TES fans hating it because they felt it dumbed down things introduced in Morrowind and Oblivion. Bethesda didn't exactly buck any trends with Skyrim.

 

 

 

one of the greatest games of all time

 

kek

 

Skyrim, by itself and without mods, is painfully average. It's your standard-fare glitchy, broken, practically unplayable mess that's pretty much expected from Bethesda by now. It has an awful plot, and almost no actual characters other than General Tullius and Ulfric Stormcloak. It has an interesting approach to standard RPG leveling, and it gives players a large amount of choice in how to approach situations in the world. Credit to it for those, but it fails in plenty of regards. The only reason Skyrim is as popular as it is, is because it has a million mods available to fix the mess that Bethesda wasn't willing to run through QA. And I say this as someone who has played through all of the expansions for Skyrim and has at least a thousand hours of play time on both the Xbox 360 (aka, unmoddable) and PC versions.


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The only things that DAI has in common with Skyrim are the same things that are in nearly every RPG. The one thing I could conceivably see taken from Skyrim itself is the large, open envionments, since DA in the past was largely confined to corridors and semi-open pathways.

 

 

 

 

"Unprecedented". Have you played any Elder Scrolls game before Skyrim? When Skyrim was still new, I remember a lot of die-hard TES fans hating it because they felt it dumbed down things introduced in Morrowind and Oblivion. Bethesda didn't exactly buck any trends with Skyrim.

 

This is true. Skyrim, however good it was, was dumbed down severely from Morrowind.


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The only things that DAI has in common with Skyrim are the same things that are in nearly every RPG. The one thing I could conceivably see taken from Skyrim itself is the large, open envionments, since DA in the past was largely confined to corridors and semi-open pathways.

 

 

"Unprecedented". Have you played any Elder Scrolls game before Skyrim? When Skyrim was still new, I remember a lot of die-hard TES fans hating it because they felt it dumbed down things introduced in Morrowind and Oblivion. Bethesda didn't exactly buck any trends with Skyrim.

 

I played the **** out of Morrowind, Oblivion less so.  The difference?  No dragons and dragons.  Everything is better with dragons.

 

I liked Oblivion I didn't love Oblivion.  Morrowind quite possibly could have destroyed my GPA in high school if I hadn't learned about espresso.  Greaaaaaat ****** game.

 

And as a die-hard TES fan I don't remember people saying it dumbed down anything from Oblivion.  There are still the Morrowind fantatics but they piped down fairly quickly.


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(to o Ventus) Some fans still feel this in regards to a lot of elements like being able to not only join but also become the leader of several guild factions is from what I hear one of the complaints.

 

Also, Lilithor? I think you might need to change the "Mass Effect" in your text to "Dragon Age" otherwise people might get the impression you are copypasting.



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This is true. Skyrim, however good it was, was dumbed down severely from Morrowind.

 

But not Oblivion.  It was a step up from that and it's hard to beat Morrowind...except by adding dragons...and Vikings...and well, there's dragons.



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Are you angry that it's not Skyrim enough or angry that they're copying one of the greatest games of all time?  I'm not seeing the problem.

 

I mean, I don't care if they can't do Vikings, as well.  I care that the hair sucks ass.  I have Skyrim for Vikings and dragons.  I like not having to wait until the 2nd half of a game to fight them.

Worst game ever you mean? Before Inquisition. Inquisition looked agressively into Skyrim and copied it, they really did their job, managed to be even worse.
Same dumbing down in the series and other serious mistakes Skyrim featured.
 

Hehehe. I am not turning into a sith, by any means. But since the game sorely lacked story content, and Bioware is adding more of it, I see no reason why this is bad. It won't change my overall view of the game at all, but credit where credit is due.

To be honest, I am becoming Sith. I was barely bearing the game awfulness expecting some interesting DLC, it was a 100% subjective matter. They released content about the second people I hate the most in the game (first are Qunari, but at least with Qunari I have curiosity). They could have gone ANYWHERE, fex people, rivain, nevarra, more val royeaux, antiva, whatever... but Avvars? I already hated the game and they choose precisely the people that makes no difference for me in Thedas. TO be honest perhaps I ignore chasind the same or even more... it varies from time to time. So muhc interesting things and they give this boring on top of boring. It became personal.

 



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Well more DLC is great, the exclusivity deal, not so much.

 

But the OP didn't even complain about that in the OP

 

Only that "DA is trying to be more like Skyrim"



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This is true. Skyrim, however good it was, was dumbed down severely from Morrowind.

 

Wasn't it dumbed down specifically to sell the work shop?



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You are right, but they know this, already Lilithor. They have not yet achieved the 2 mil, or whatever sales that Skyrim achieved. Which means they will keep trying. So if they want to be Skyrim, I say, let them.

But seriously, just wait for the dlc to come out before you start judging.
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