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[Qun00]

Now, people tend to get touchy when you say something remotely unflattering about something they like.

Let me make it clear that's not my goal here.

With that out of the way, if I recall it correctly the Dalish are very isolated people.

The Inquisitor role requires at least a decent understanding of general issues present in Thedas.

Being raised in a society that has little interest in the outside world, how well can a Dalish elf do?

[raging_monkey]

Well josie helps "acclimate" to the position and maybe he thinks he can change them

[LadyLaLa]

According to what we're told, your clan is more active in the world than a lot of other clans, enough to send you to spy on the conclave. It's not too much of a stretch to think that your keeper would have informed you of what's going on in the world so you're not going in blind, and then you likely picked up more details at the conclave itself.

[LadyLaLa]

Double post

[Krypplingz]

Well, the Lavellan clan was one of the clans that was more interested in human affairs. So they might have a cleared picture of the general goings on in the world. The Dalish are also centered around gathering old knowledge, so the inquisitor might have had it drilled into his/her mind how to observe and learn from the things they find. Then they might also have known former city elves who gave them some intel before they set off for the conclave.

Then you have the advisors. I suppose that someone who spent many hours listening to the droning of the elders and story-tellers of the clan might have the fortitude to listen to the shemlen for a while. 

And I'm sure Vivenne would take some off screen time to educate the poor savage elf. Varric and Sera might explain the commoners point of view (with varying success). Solas also seems used to humans and he loves to give lectures, so he might take some time to educate the inquistor. 

 

(Head canon ahoy!)

Or they could just served as a figure head. Atleast, that what was Mytjan did. He was mostly a field agent who did some killing and rift closing and occasionally Josephine would dress him up and make him sit in the fancy chair to make judgements. Of course, he went mad with power and Josephine had to take him aside and explain to him why they couldn't take over the Winter Palace and force them to serve him more of those tiny cakes.

But he was good at killing stuff and closing rifts. So it was all good. 

 

Vedis just hit the books, spending her off time reading about human customs and asking her advisors and companions about the finer details. Being from an isolated community does not mean that you are stupid. Also if you lead a group of hunters, you'll need to be prepared to meet humans. (Same goes for the Keepers first). And it's not much of a stretch that the keeper would send someone who knew how to interact peacefully with humans. 

[Sir Froggie]

The advisers are the ones doing all the real work anyway. The inquisitor just kills **** and looks pretty so they can build a cult around him/her.

[Lethaya]

For my Lavellan mage, she was at least in training to become her clan's Keeper, so in my mind she knows something about leadership and responsibility and how to deal with people looking to you for guidance. Also, while the Dalish origin might be lacking in knowledge about world politics, I think they make up for it with their grasp of elven lore given how much the storyline goes over the Elvhen history and myths.

[Patchwork]

The only background that seems ideally suited to lead the Inquisition is warrior/rogue Trevelyan all the others are lacking in some way and have to rely on advisors and companions expertise, at least in the beginning.  

[caradoc2000]

And if all else fails, you can always say "talk to the hand":

 

[Addai]

I liked the bit where you're leading the Inquisition through the wilderness with Solas voiceover saying "scout to the north, be their guide."

 

Dalish hunter or keeper has skills that help make up for the lack of social standing.

[Rekkampum]

Now, people tend to get touchy when you say something remotely unflattering about something they like.

Let me make it clear that's not my goal here.

With that out of the way, if I recall it correctly the Dalish are very isolated people.

The Inquisitor role requires at least a decent understanding of general issues present in Thedas.

Being raised in a society that has little interest in the outside world, how well can a Dalish elf do?

 

There are different kinds of Dalish clans with varying attitudes toward other societies. Some are extremely xenophobic and isolationist, while others are more welcoming. It's implied that your clan is more involved in political affairs than some others are.

[Emmy]

My favorite headcanon would be deciding on who teaches my Lavellan to dance

[Bad King]

Now, people tend to get touchy when you say something remotely unflattering about something they like.

Let me make it clear that's not my goal here.

With that out of the way, if I recall it correctly the Dalish are very isolated people.

The Inquisitor role requires at least a decent understanding of general issues present in Thedas.

Being raised in a society that has little interest in the outside world, how well can a Dalish elf do?

 

Not sure about the warrior/rogue Dalish, but considering that Clan Lavellan has a lot of contact (particularly in trade) with human societies, I'd expect the mage Dalish (who is the Keeper's First: the future leader and representative of the clan) to have a detailed knowledge of human customs and politics having been groomed for clan leadership by the Keeper.

[phyreblade74]

I honestly thought, that the sheer lack of real appreciation for the role is what makes the Dalish elf so perfectly suited for it.  What exactly is the Inquisition, that we can truly define what the Inquisitor is supposed to be, I mean.  It's not like anyone has a manual describing a step-by-step guide to saving the world, shrug.

 

The very best head-canon I have, is of a hero who never really imagined he'd ever be such a hero.  He is NOT "prepared" because no one can be.  He has to rely on the innate tools of his own experience, his own judgment, his own understanding until every decision and motion takes on a new and unique meaning.  It's not easy or simple, there is no real direction aside from his own choice -- and in the end he earns the respect of his followers precisely because he does RIGHT without ever relying on any particular agenda, whether it's Mage or Templar, Fereldan or Orlesian, Dalish or Human or Dwarf or Qunari ... The Inquisitor is something NEW.

[Wulfram]

I tend to assume that the Keeper sent someone who was one of the more comfortable at dealing with humans.

 

The dialogue options don't give you much ability to play a true outsider, which is a bit of a shame.

[Digger1967]

Now, people tend to get touchy when you say something remotely unflattering about something they like.

Let me make it clear that's not my goal here.

With that out of the way, if I recall it correctly the Dalish are very isolated people.

The Inquisitor role requires at least a decent understanding of general issues present in Thedas.

Being raised in a society that has little interest in the outside world, how well can a Dalish elf do?

 

Wow.... that's weird.  I feel all touchy all of a sudden.  Huh.

 

Anywho - as the story begins your character is at the conclave, for whatever reason.  You walk in on the divine being sacraficed and with a divine 7-10 split maneuver wind up with the anchor in your hand.

 

So I guess you just sort of have to fill in the back story a bit yourself from there, I only have one Dalish inquisitor at the moment, a mage - and I figured his reason for being at the conclave is that he was actually there on an unrelated matter to the Conclave itself.  The Chantry had been trying for years to negotiate a trade route through an area his clan controls, it's not a big stretch of land but the pass that is part of that area would save them weeks of going around the long way.  So they'd been after his Keeper for years to try and get an agreement to allow their caravans to pass through, the Keeper still wasn't keen on the idea but sent a small group to negotiate with the Chantry and at least see what they were willing to offer.

 

My Inqusitor was part of that group of 3, they were meeting with a Chantry negotiator, they arrived and that evening my Inquistor decided to head to the kitchen to see if maybe he could rustle up a late night snack, walked past the wrong door, being young, stupid and inquisitive decided to investigate and next thing he knows he wakes up in chains with Cassandra breathing down his neck.

 

So he sort of got caught up in all of this, and while he isn't exactly thrilled by the whole idea he realizes that in order to protect his clan he's pretty much going to have to find a way to deal with this nutjob darkspawn with delusions of godhood.  Plus he kind of likes being called "Your Worship", finds it tremendously funny though he'd never admit that out loud.

 

So really I guess it just kind of depends on what sort of backstory you develop for yourself.

[Qun00]

Not sure about the warrior/rogue Dalish, but considering that Clan Lavellan has a lot of contact (particularly in trade) with human societies, I'd expect the mage Dalish (who is the Keeper's First: the future leader and representative of the clan) to have a detailed knowledge of human customs and politics having been groomed for clan leadership by the Keeper.

When you put it that way I almost regret choosing the rogue class for my Dalish elf.

But I already have a mage character planned, and knight enchanter is the only spec that's really worth your time.

[Kaibe]

This is somewhat amusing in hindsight.

[Addai]

When you put it that way I almost regret choosing the rogue class for my Dalish elf.

But I already have a mage character planned, and knight enchanter is the only spec that's really worth your time.

A hunter could likewise have contact with human society as a trader. While Keepers get more education, they're also more at risk from templar interference, so it would make more sense to have non-mages doing your routine trading.

 

Also, rift mage is fun, whereas KE is overpowered and boring. My main is a KE but I keep it for the passives and stick to elemental magic. She always has Solas in her party, so he does the rift magery.

[Fredward]

Headcanon. Mine spent a lot of time in cities and courts and is generally frustrated with his people. He's also ridiculously intelligent but I prop this up with the fact that in game he can become versed in history, culture, politics and magic in less than a year's period. In fact he can absorb all that before he even gets to Skyhold. Watch out Thedas the Inquisitor is major egghead.

[themageguy]

Dalish mages make excellent Inquisitors

[Qun00]

I tend to assume that the Keeper sent someone who was one of the more comfortable at dealing with humans.
 
The dialogue options don't give you much ability to play a true outsider, which is a bit of a shame.

Well, not so much dealing as observing from a hidden spot.

[Sifr]

There's an Avvar in the new DLC who happens to be very well-read, well-travelled and well-versed on the goings-on in Ferelden and Orlais, well outside of his own isolated community, so one could imagine that the Dalish probably have some members of the tribe who happen to keep aware of current events, or hear news from the other clans scattered about?

 

For a people who are constantly on the move, the Dalish are likely going to need to keep up to date on current events simply to make sure that it's safe for them to travel? Simply wandering without any real knowledge of the land means you could easily set up camp in the middle of an area that's going to be a battlefield between two armies next week, or head into the middle of an area currently suffering from a horrific plague?

 

There's a difference between self-imposed isolation and being completely clueless of the outside world, after all?

[Amne YA]

well a dalish inquisitor will not be expectional  or original cause : spoiler ahaid
in the DLC   you dicovert that the last inquisitor was an elf  mage so you won"t feel special any more 
and he was delated from the history ...cause  he wasn"t good for the story of the chantry and the inquisiton and sadly the same will happen to you years latter