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[KaiserShep]

I guess I'll have to reserve judgment and check some more vids and wait for reviews. I've never skipped on any available DA or ME DLC before, and I've greatly enjoyed them all. I'm not surprised by the lower count of cutscenes, since this game has been much skimpier on that sort of thing than the previous titles, but disappointing to see that the pattern continues.

[rda]

Unfortunately this hasn't happened since Dragon Age: Origins, which is a shame really as complete Editions are really helpful later on.

This is actually why I didnt buy any DLC for DA2. Even now, to the best of my knowledge, there is no DLC bundle for a reasonable price, and nor has the individual price on the DLCs ever dropped.

[Heidirs]

Unfortunately this hasn't happened since Dragon Age: Origins, which is a shame really as complete Editions are really helpful later on.

 

DA2 Ultimate Edition (or is it called Deluxe?) includes the story DLC with Sebastian and the Black Emporium DLC. You don't get Legacy or Mark of the Assassin, sadly.

[Beaubier]

I hope Microsoft paid EA REALLY well for that limited exclusivity window. Because if the reviews on this thing continue to be "meh", I can't see the last gen and Playstation owners rushing out to grab it once it becomes available.

[wright1978]

Again, best to wait for reviews on something like this and then make your decision.

 

 

If it doesn't sell well that would send a much greater message for those that do not like what they are seeing in this DLC.

 

Yeah tough love approach looks like what i'm hoping for now.

[hoechlbear]

 Most people though seem to make the choice of coming here to ****** and whine about it rather than to move on if they are not happy with the product.

 

 

Or maybe people were expecting some actual meaty DLC and got disappointed? You know, considering that most sidequests in DAI are fetch quests without not even one cutscene to make things feel more personal and considering the fact that Bioware said they would be adding more content in the future. If by that they mean give us yet another huge world to explore aimlessly with a bunch of new fetch quests and mobs to kill, then people have a right to be upset, imo.

 

$15 may not be a lot to some people, but I wouldn't pay $2 for a DLC that gives me more of what I dislike about this game. I haven't touched DAI since it came out and I barely managed to finish my first playthrough so I was hoping the DLC would actually improve what we have in the game and not make it worse by adding more of the same grindy content, like we haven't enough of that already.

 

Many people will buy the DLC because "it's only $15" and that's the sort of attitude that Bioware/EA loves, because it means they can throw whatever crap they want at us and people will still buy it. $15 here and $15 there, and they're rolling in money by simply putting some fetch quests together, some new mobs to kill and a couple of cutscenes just to not make it plain obvious that they are shamelessly milking us for money.

[wolfsite]

Or maybe people were expecting some actual meaty DLC and got disappointed? You know, considering that most sidequests in DAI are fetch quests without not even one cutscene to make things feel more personal and considering the fact that Bioware said they would be adding more content in the future. If by that they mean give us yet another huge world to explore aimless with a bunch of new fetch quests and mobs to kill, then people have a right to be upset, imo.

 

$15 may not be a lot to some people, but I wouldn't pay $2 for a DLC that gives me more of what I feel like is wrong with this game. I haven't touched DAI since it came out and I barely managed to finish my first playthrough so I was hoping the DLC would actually improve what we have in the game and not make it worse by adding more of the same grindy content.

 

Many people will buy the DLC because "it's only $15" and that's the sort of attitude that Bioware/EA loves, because it means they can throw whatever crap they want at us because people will still buy it. $15 here and $15 there, and they're rolling in money by simply putting some fetch quests together, some new mobs to fight and a couple of cutscenes just to not make it plain obvious that they are shamelessly milking us for money.

I wasn't attempting to bundle everyone together in this.  If that is what you thought I do apologize as there have been people who have been giving some very detailed criticisms about it.  But there have been some that have been just posting things without real criticism which does make it difficult to separate real opinions from people complaining just for the sake of it.

[wolfsite]

DA2 Ultimate Edition (or is it called Deluxe?) includes the story DLC with Sebastian and the Black Emporium DLC. You don't get Legacy or Mark of the Assassin, sadly.

That was the Signature Edition which you got upgraded to for Pre-Ordering.  The only other game that has come close to a Complete Edition is the PS3 version of Mass Effect 2 which had almost all the DLC, it was just missing "The Arrival" and one or two weapon/armour DLC.

[hostaman]

No doubt it will be £15 in the UK (although it should really be £10).

 

I think I'll save my £15 for "No Mans Sky"

[Chriagon]

I don't care mouch about the 15€, but I'm seriously wondering how Bioware came to the conclusion DA fans might want yet another area filled with rifts, camps and fetch quests? After completing DA3 I feel like I've had enough of that for a lifetime.

 

Tell us a story Bioware, enrich it with cutscenes and character interactions and combine it with CHALLENGING battles.

 

Haveing said this however, I'll probably buy it anyway, as usual.

[wolfsite]

I don't care mouch about the 15€, but I'm seriously wondering how Bioware came to the conclusion DA fans might want yet another area filled with rifts, camps and fetch quests? After completing DA3 I feel like I've had enough of that for a lifetime.

 

Tell us a story Bioware, enrich it with cutscenes and character interactions and combine it with CHALLENGING battles.

 

Haveing said this however, I'll probably buy it anyway, as usual.

Maybe someone can ask the next time they are at a convention and sit on a Bioware Panel.  If anything I would like to hear how the process of DLC worked for Inquisition as there are a lot of polarizing opinions about the game with people liking and not liking certain aspects.

[turuzzusapatuttu]

Whether something is "worth" $15 bucks is highly variable between people.  

 

$15 = about 5 gallons of gas... or a quarter of a tank..

$15 = a meal for 3 people at McDonalds.

$15 = a ticket for 1 person to see a 90 minute movie.

 

I will easily get this DLC.   I love exploring and more content is always better.    Considering the VAST amount of money I have to send to the government next month and get NOTHING for it in return... $15 bucks is a miniscule amount.    I have bought games on Steam and gifted them to complete strangers that cost more. 

 

WTF? $15 for a movie ticket? For just 1 person??? Where I live with that money I can buy two tickets for a 3d movie...

[Scerene]

Exactly.... no point... so why post it?

 

Note: I'm not getting the DLC either but I'm sure people don't need to see me all over the place taking shots at EA or Bioware just because I decided not to buy a piece of DLC.

like wtf is it with people like you telling people to not post **** on a forum. How about you dont click on topics you dont want to read instead of telling people not to make them, and there is a point, it gives people an idea whether or not something is worth buying. So people should not write reviews simply because your ass cant deal with somebody not praising stuff you like to the high heavens? Many people want to read reviews from people that have played the damn thing, to see if its worth it, so yes there is a very good point to it

[wolfsite]

WTF? $15 for a movie ticket? For just 1 person??? Where I live with that money I can buy two tickets for a 3d movie...

$13 for movies in my area, Thankfully there is Tuesday.

[Fearsome1]

So about that price .... ?

 

T'was my understanding that a story based dlc was supposed to be a perk that came with prepurchasing the collectors edition [at least] of the game. Does anyone know whether "Jaws of Hakkon" is provided gratis to those who previously booted up their copies while awaiting their "to be announced!" content?

 

Or does everyone have to buy this dlc?

[wolfsite]

like wtf is it with people like you telling people to not post **** on a forum. How about you dont click on topics you dont want to read instead of telling people not to make them, and there is a point, it gives people an idea whether or not something is worth buying. So people should not write reviews simply because your ass cant deal with somebody not praising stuff you like to the high heavens? Many people want to read reviews from people that have played the damn thing, to see if its worth it, so yes there is a very good point to it

 

But there wasn't a good point in that post.

 

There was just a shot at a company over a business decision.

 

Now if they said they didn't feel there was enough content for $15 or nothing really new that warranted $15 I would have been fine with that.

 

Honestly I want people to be as descriptive as possible with there complaints and concerns as that is how we get a better idea of what the issue is with a product.  But a one sentence post of someone taking a jab at something without any real criticisms is what the original issue was.  There are many more posts later in the thread they really delve better into valid concerns which I would happily support sine they go deeper into an issue they feel about the DLC.

 

But again quick one sentence shots just feel like that... shots.... does the person have a valid concern? Is the person just trolling?  These need to be eleminated so we can get to the heart of the issues people have and have better discussions about it.

[l7986]

Am I the only one that wouldn't be surprised to find out this was supposed to be a Day 1 DLC type thing that got pulled and pushed back a couple of months?

[Scerene]

From the descriptions of the achievements I knew this would end up being just another boring world with exploration and fetch quests, but I didn't want to judge ahead of time. Looks like I was right and I'll be skipping this one for sure. 

 

Shame that Bioware still doesn't get it. The number one complaint about this game is huge worlds filled with fetch quests as well as the lack of cutscenes, and yet they did the same mistake in DLC. Not sure what this means for the future of DA since it doesn't look like they are taking complaints into consideration.

 

I wanted a DLC that would add in depth sidequests to the already existing worlds, I certainly won't pay to get more of what I feel like is wrong with this game.

they couldnt care less about these complaints. They will continue their boring and lazy cash grabs as long as people let them get away with it, which as you can see, there are plenty of gullible fools willing to do. Its funny that these individuals do not seem to understand that its in their best interest to actually be critical of this kind of ****, as their behavior is the reason dlc will be dropping in quality, while increasing in price. But i stopped expecting people to be rational or to act with common sense. 

[Han Yolo]

Aw man what a disappointment. I was hoping for story content. Is it £15 or 10?

[Dieb]

I played it for an hour now, and I can say the "sidequest DLC" verdict is simplified bullsh*t. Then again: Reddit - The internet's schoolyard, as per usual.

 

It's the same as areas like Empris du Lion, you have a quest chain that keeps all the grinding glued together - I mean, it is a side quest, because it's optional. However it's not better or worse than the rest of the more well-though out areas in the vanilla game, if that's any help. Lots of Avvar tribal action happening, I like it. Also I found new pretty stuffs.

 

From a story POV, I'd say it's somewhere around Overlord or Legacy (judging pre-DAI) when it comes to weight - it's nice-to-know lore additions to make more sense of a bunch of loose ends, but it won't change the quality of the vanilla plot.

 

Current verdict: You won't miss it, but you won't regret it either. Unless 15$ was your food money.

 

This is not a warm coat that keeps you from dying in a blizzard, but the kinda shirt you feel guilty for buying -since you have plenty already- but it's also the one you're going to be putting on as soon as it's outta laundry.

 

 

P.S.: The new area is also very pittoresque, hence imminent photo safari.

P.P.S.: Wow that metaphor sure went nowhere.

P.P.P.S.: Updated. Changed "Leviathan" to "Overlord", cause it's a closer match.

[KaiserShep]

WTF? $15 for a movie ticket? For just 1 person??? Where I live with that money I can buy two tickets for a 3d movie...

 

Tickets at most theaters in NYC can range from $13 upward, $20 if you go to the Lincoln Center IMAX (might be more now I haven't been there in a while). Some smaller places might charge less, but at my local Regal, it's $14.50. Needless to say I don't go to the movies often, though it helps that I find most new releases to be crap.

[MaxQuartiroli]

Honestly I was not expecting anything different.. they cannot change the core of the game for a single DLC so it was obvious that it would have been a DLC which resembled more or less the main game.

 

Whether $15 for a DLC is overpriced or not, however good or bad it may be, well... that's another matter!

[Arcling]

Honestly I was not expecting anything different.. they cannot change the core of the game for a single DLC so it was obvious that it would have been a DLC which resembled more or less the main game.

This pretty much. However, in order to make a story heavy post-game dlc, they could make something in form of seperate adventure. Something like Witch Hunt. Either playing as Inquisitor (with an option to import the one from main game with decision from Keep or choose some "defaults") or a different character in it's own story that could tie to Inquisiton.

[KennethAFTopp]

I played it for an hour now, and I can say the "sidequest DLC" verdict is simplified bullsh*t. Then again: Reddit - The internet's schoolyard, as per usual.

 

It's the same as areas like Empris du Lion, you have a quest chain that keeps all the grinding glued together - I mean, it is a side quest, because it's optional. However it's not better or worse than the rest of the more well-though out areas in the vanilla game, if that's any help. Lots of Avvar tribal action happening, I like it. Also I found new pretty stuffs.

 

From a story POV, I'd say it's somewhere around Leviathan or Legacy (judging pre-DAI) when it comes to weight - it's nice-to-know lore additions to make more sense of a bunch of loose ends, but it won't change the quality of the vanilla plot.

 

Current verdict: You won't miss it, but you won't regret it either. Unless 15$ was your food money.

 

This is not a warm coat that keeps you from dying in a blizzard, but the kinda shirt you feel guilty for buying -since you have plenty already- but it's also the one you're going to be putting on as soon as it's outta laundry.

 

 

P.S.: The new area is also very pittoresque, hence imminent photo safari.

P.P.S.: Wow that metaphor sure went nowhere.

P.P.P.S.: Updated.

Would love to see some of the new loot, schematics.
Specifically armors and Mauls. 

Perchance in a PM.

[CronoDragoon]

The price is the real sticking point here. If I were to imagine this DLC as a Crestwood-type zone, then I'd value that type of additional experience at around $5-6 at most. It certainly doesn't sound as story-focused as Legacy, MOTA, Leviathan, or Citadel.

 

As for why it's more of the same, I think it makes sense if this was cut content. Hopefully they have been working on something else in these past few months that's a bit meatier.