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[Al Foley]

My verdict is: do you like the region exploring stuff?

If you loved it, you'll love this.

If your me, who didn't complete the last 4 because it bored you, this dlc is not for you.

I liked it but I like to do other things too.

[TMA LIVE]

This is Bioware, once again, releasing cut content that should have been in the game but it got rushed out the door and now they're now charging for it. As usual I'm actually more mad at EA because this is their decision, there's no doubt.

Didn't Bioware also say in one of them patch notes that they wanted to "get in cut content that didn't make it into the game for free"? I seem to recall that.

If this is cut content, I think it should've stayed cut. If I new the dlc was just another region of side quests, I'd skip it.

[KaiserShep]

Well and same applies to the DA DLC.  Awakening was just awesome on a stick and felt different (and better) then Origins.  Both Legacy and Mark of the Assassin were welcome changes of pace in the world of Kirkwal and provided some really awesome moments in terms of gameplay and story.  3 of the hardest decisions I have ever faced in BioWare games were in their DLC. 

 

I feel that Dragon Age's DLC's have felt spottier on average. The Warden's Keep DLC is alright, but what saves it is that it's very brief, yields one of the nicest armors and weapons in the game, has storage, and has some fairly interesting choices to make. Awakening is arguably an entire game in itself, imports and all, but I felt the quality was much poorer than Origins. It's one of those things that I felt I had to complete since my Warden was alive, but after doing a proper completionist playthrough, which required a hefty amount of meta-gaming to avoid breaking quests (which was frustratingly easy to do), I don't think I can bother again. Golems was really forgettable, and Witch Hunt didn't really get interesting until the last few minutes talking to Morrigan, and neither of these are things I'd like to play again either.

 

I actually think that DA2's story DLC's are a lot more fun than Origins', though Origins has the better DLC companion.

 

On the Mass Effect side, I can complete all of the DLC's across the entire trilogy with each full replay without any issue. It just feels incomplete if I don't. Even the weakest one available to me, which I think Arrival is, is something I can actually enjoy in spite of its horrible plot logic.

[themikefest]

Tickets at most theaters in NYC can range from $13 upward, $20 if you go to the Lincoln Center IMAX (might be more now I haven't been there in a while). Some smaller places might charge less, but at my local Regal, it's $14.50. Needless to say I don't go to the movies often, though it helps that I find most new releases to be crap.

Here in the Raleigh area I can buy 2 tickets for $16 to see a movie during the afternoon hours whereas it will cost $10.50 for one to see the same movie at night. Don't know what it costs for the IMAX downtown.

[RogueState]

There seem to be a lot of people moaning about the price, it's £12 here in the UK which is pretty much $25, we're basically paying $10 more for exactly the same thing for no logical reason soooooo...

 

I've still paid for it though because I love Inquisition and I like the sound of the story.

[Wynterdust]

I've begrudgingly bought it as I like the game and I've always bought their DLC's. But when comparing it to other DLC's such as from the Mass Effect trilogy, the price is definitely too high for what it is.

When you see that the Citadel DLC in ME3 was £9.99 where you get tonnes of content varying from gameplay and plenty of new companion content, £11.99 for this is just...ridiculous. If the next one is anything like it and at the same price I'm going to have to make it the first DLC I don't buy for a Bioware game. Not very happy about it at all.

[fizzypop]

I would really like it if people stopped acting like $15 is a fortune.

Geez, that's not even half a night out.

You do realize we are gamers right? For many of us we don't spend $15 going out. I can't even remember the last time I went out to a bar. Oh right last year. I'm a penny pincher. I'm a gamer specifically because it is cheap long-lasting entertainment. So if I'm paying $15 it better be content I will want to play at least a dozen times. This definitely ain't it.

[SofaJockey]

Value for money is value for money, whether it's $100, $15 or $1.

Though it seems like the problem with this DLC is less value for money and more that it's offering us more of what we already have a surfeit of.

 

Rightly or wrongly, as DAI won 133 GOTYs off the back of open zones, I would not be surprised to see DLC follow that format.

 

(anyway, I'm not reading the reviews, I'll do that after I've finished the DLC...)

[Rekkampum]

This thread on reddit summerises it all. Id love to hear opinions from other people who have played this so far.

https://www.reddit.c...d_not_worth_it/

 

It's their option to not purchase it if they don't want, but the consumer doesn't speak for everyone. I've spent several hours in this DLC already, and find it worth the price. Way better than the stuff Bioware would charge us twenty dollars for that barely even lasted three hours and were one-off events.

 

 

Here in the Raleigh area I can buy 2 tickets for $16 to see a movie during the afternoon hours whereas it will cost $10.50 for one to see the same movie at night. Don't know what it costs for the IMAX downtown.

 

You're in Raleigh!? I'm here in Graham.

[London]

My problem is this isn't really a side story I care about. "discover the fate of the first Inquisitor and some dragon" isn't really something I have any stake in. I was kind of hoping for meaningful development of DAI's cast and plot - not some throwaway story.

Since I found Most of the MMO zones to be skipable (and something I as a completionist ended up doing out of boredom) I will be skipping this. I don't really plan on playing again until they fix the amulets of power anyway as I am in the fade on my current play through and cannot proceed so it could be the case I never play again anyway.

[fizzypop]

My problem is this isn't really a side story I care about. "discover the fate of the first Inquisitor and some dragon" isn't really something I have any stake in. I was kind of hoping for meaningful development of DAI's cast and plat - not some throwaway story.

Since I found Most of the MMO zones to be skip able (and something I as a completion its ended up doing out of boredom) I will be skipping this. I don't really plan on playing again until they fix the amulets of power anyway as I am in the fade on my current play through and cannot proceed so it could be the case I never play again anyway.

I'm right there with you before I really knew any details I was already really meh lol. I just really have no stake in this story at all. I really wish we could explore our inquisitors background I might have paid $15 to flesh out my character's back story. Or something to do with Solas.

There is only two mmos where I want to do every single quest because the story is really engaging. That was wow (which I haven't played since like 2009) and rift which I haven't played since 2013ish? Anyways I loved their story and I loved getting sucked into the lore.

[London]

I would also purchase an Inquisitor intro story and a Solas DLC. Those would both be of interest as there would obviously be more of a personal stake in both and add something to the characters and story.

[Yokokorama]

I'll wait for more feedback before I form an opinion, but based on this alone I'm disappointed.  What we needed was more content to populate the 10 empty regions we already have in the game, not add yet another empty area.  Size and diverse locales was never Inquisition's weak point; it was the lack of meaningful content within said locales.  This DLC seems to just build on the chronic problem of the game, which is size over substance.

 

I also think it's funny that people are trying to diminish what $15 is.  Value varies from person to person; to you it might not be much, but to others it can get you a hell of a lot.  For example, I just bought Deus Ex Human Revolution for $4 a few days ago.  New Vegas has went for $2.50 on summer sales and $5 for the "GOTY DLC edition".  Same with Fallout 3 and Oblivion.  So yeah, to PC gamers at least, $15 can get you three to four great games on Steam and there are more than enough sales during the year to take advantage of that sort of thing. 

[b09boy]

$15 might not be a lot when looking at your wallet, but it has a good deal of worth regarding games.  People who are saying that it's nothing is the exact reason it's $15 instead of $5.  Your stupidity in this line of thinking has been consistently driving this price higher and higher.  And even then, most companies that are not EA would be selling this for $10 at absolute best.

 

Let's look at what else I can get for $15 where I am.

 

7 gallons of gasoline, nearly half a tank.

Good food for the next 3-4 days.

A steak meal at a decent chain restaurant

Two movie tickets.

Four complete games.

 

Here's a little advice for the kiddies on how to save money: don't buy stupid things which are obviously overpriced, no matter how little money they seemingly are.  Nickles and dimes add up fast.

[wtfman99]

Yokokorama, on 24 Mar 2015 - 11:41 AM, said:

I'll wait for more feedback before I form an opinion, but based on this alone I'm disappointed.  What we needed was more content to populate the 10 empty regions we already have in the game, not add yet another empty area.  Size and diverse locales was never Inquisition's weak point; it was the lack of meaningful content within said locales.  This DLC seems to just build on the chronic problem of the game, which is size over substance.

 

I also think it's funny that people are trying to diminish what $15 is.  Value varies from person to person; to you it might not be much, but to others it can get you a hell of a lot.  For example, I just bought Deus Ex Human Revolution for $4 a few days ago.  New Vegas has went for $2.50 on summer sales and $5 for the "GOTY DLC edition".  Same with Fallout 3 and Oblivion.  So yeah, to PC gamers at least, $15 can get you three to four great games on Steam and there are more than enough sales during the year to take advantage of that sort of thing. 

 

I'm sure you will get Jaws of Hakkon for $4...in like 1-2 years.

 

Reality is you pay more for comment right when it is released.

 

DE: HR was like $60 on release, but let's make ridiculous comparisons.

 

If $15 is too much for people, don't buy it, but also...don't whine about it. I'll pay $15 for this gladly, and if I don't like it, tough for me. I'm excited to get new content.

[Rekkampum]

I would also purchase an Inquisitor intro story and a Solas DLC. Those would both be of interest as there would obviously be more of a personal stake in both and add something to the characters and story.

 

That would be awesome. I think it would hard to implement, so perhaps a DLC related to their origin(like a questline) would be great.

[Homer2101]

It's up to the individual to decide if it's overpriced or not.

 

If they feel they want to experience the DLC right away and they enjoy it then that person will feel they got there money's worth.

 

If someone doesn't feel that way they will either wait for a sale or just not buy the DLC.

 

 

It's all about choice.  Most people though seem to make the choice of coming here to ****** and whine about it rather than to move on if they are not happy with the product.

 

Something like 1% of all players actually visit the forums, and only a small fraction of those players bother to post anything. The most vocal forum users are a miniscule minority of a minority.

 

Anyways.

 

Folk who want a large new area to explore and some new stuff to do will probably be quite happy with this DLC. Folk who want a continuation of the main character storylines will probably skip it until it goes on sale. Either way, no developer is required to cater to every player's whims -- if only because that's impossible. Preposterous as it may seem in this age of the internet echo chamber and so-called adults acting like spoiled brats over nothing, but folk don't all share the same interests, and that's generally fine when it comes to video games. 

[Rekkampum]

I'll wait for more feedback before I form an opinion, but based on this alone I'm disappointed.  What we needed was more content to populate the 10 empty regions we already have in the game, not add yet another empty area.  Size and diverse locales was never Inquisition's weak point; it was the lack of meaningful content within said locales.  This DLC seems to just build on the chronic problem of the game, which is size over substance.

 

I also think it's funny that people are trying to diminish what $15 is.  Value varies from person to person; to you it might not be much, but to others it can get you a hell of a lot.  For example, I just bought Deus Ex Human Revolution for $4 a few days ago.  New Vegas has went for $2.50 on summer sales and $5 for the "GOTY DLC edition".  Same with Fallout 3 and Oblivion.  So yeah, to PC gamers at least, $15 can get you three to four great games on Steam and there are more than enough sales during the year to take advantage of that sort of thing. 

 

 

 

I remember when I got a Steam sale for Tomb Raider that ended up with me getting all the entries including the reboot for fifteen bucks. They're so not fair.

[Maverick827]

It was fairly obvious that this is what the DLC was going to be. DAI is game-design-by-numbers. Every zone was just a copy and paste job of the last. Fetch quest, shards, camps, etc.

It was likely so inexpensive to create this DLC that it will be profitable at $15, even as poorly-received as it has been.

[Yokokorama]

I'm sure you will get Jaws of Hakkon for $4...in like 1-2 years.

 

Reality is you pay more for comment right when it is released.

 

DE: HR was like $60 on release, but let's make ridiculous comparisons.

 

If $15 is too much for people, don't buy it, but also...don't whine about it. I'll pay $15 for this gladly, and if I don't like it, tough for me. I'm excited to get new content.

 

BioWare DLC is still marked at release date price right now, and the sales are few and far between, nowhere near as often and nowhere near as generous as Steam sales.  I mean, 5 year old ME2 DLC is still going for release price.

 

It's not a ridiculous comparison; people in this thread have said $15 is "nothing."  I responded by saying that $15 can get you tons of games during Steam sales.  I.e. $15 isn't "nothing."  I am pointing out the purchasing power of $15.

 

And nice strawman - I never whined about it.  I addressed those who are trying to diminish the value of $15 by saying that $15 isn't a lot of money.  It's like you're in this thread looking for a fight with anyone with a dissenting opinion.

[Rekkampum]

It was fairly obvious that this is what the DLC was going to be. DAI is game-design-by-numbers. Every zone was just a copy and paste job of the last. Fetch quest, shards, camps, etc.

It was likely so inexpensive to create this DLC that it will be profitable at $15, even as poorly-received as it has been.

 

Official Reviews haven't even been posted yet.

[wtfman99]

Yokokorama, on 24 Mar 2015 - 11:54 AM, said:

BioWare DLC is still marked at release date price right now, and the sales are few and far between, nowhere near as often and nowhere near as generous as Steam sales.  I mean, 5 year old ME2 DLC is still going for release price.

 

It's not a ridiculous comparison; people in this thread have said $15 is "nothing."  I responded by saying that $15 can get you tons of games during Steam sales.  I.e. $15 isn't "nothing."  I am pointing out the purchasing power of $15.

 

And nice strawman - I never whined about it.  I addressed those who are trying to diminish the value of $15 by saying that $15 isn't money.  It's like you're in this thread looking for a fight with anyone with a dissenting opinion.

 

$15 can get you a ton during Steam sales, but Steam sales are ridiculously awesome. You can't compare that to a DLC that was JUST released.

 

I got Dragon Age Origins Ultimate Edition for $19.99 or $29.99 and that was an amazing deal.

 

Some people are simply unrealistic in their expectations. $15 could be a lot to some people, but did we really expect DLC to be released for like $5 from Bioware for DA:I? I didn't.

 

If it is too much for some people, then the wise choice would be to wait. Instead we have a lot of peope (not you specifically) whining about the DLC.

[Yokokorama]

$15 can get you a ton during Steam sales, but Steam sales are ridiculously awesome. You can't compare that to a DLC that was JUST released.

 

I got Dragon Age Origins Ultimate Edition for $19.99 or $29.99 and that was an amazing deal.

 

Some people are simply unrealistic in their expectations. $15 could be a lot to some people, but did we really expect DLC to be released for like $5 from Bioware for DA:I? I didn't.

 

If it is too much for some people, then the wise choice would be to wait. Instead we have a lot of peope (not you specifically) whining about the DLC.

 

 

Again I'm not making a comparison mate.  I am addressing the point that was made throughout the thread that $15 is not a lot of money. 

 

What I'm not saying is:  "Go buy games during Steam sales because they're better than this $15 DLC."

 

What I am saying is:  "$15 isn't worthless because it can get you a lot of things, and here are a few examples of multiple games you could get for $15."

 

There is a difference between the two.  What I responded to earlier was the false notion that $15 is worthless, not the DLC itself.  When I did address the DLC, it was nothing about the price at all.

[Dieb]

You do realize we are gamers right? For many of us we don't spend $15 going out. I can't even remember the last time I went out to a bar. Oh right last year. I'm a penny pincher. I'm a gamer specifically because it is cheap long-lasting entertainment. So if I'm paying $15 it better be content I will want to play at least a dozen times. This definitely ain't it.

That's just a careless thing to say.

 

I can recite 80% of both the ME and DA codices, and I still have a busy social life. Also work life. So let's just say you're still young and/ or in college and/or simply don't like to spend a lot of money - which is fine and just!

 

However, trying to spin this into Psycho insulting "true gamer culture" because he probably works for a living is just a low blow. If I wanna spend 5€ on a weapon skin, I will. And I can, because I don't go clubbing and binge on designer drugs to make listening to silly techno music for 500 bucks every Saturday palatable, so it's rather the same reason I spend money on the useless things I care about.

 

At some point in every average Joe or Josephine's life, 15$ will not be an issue. Morally maybe, but not financially. We are not entitled snobs waving our fortune in your face, we're merely proud & just-as-nerdy gamers, except we'll look shitty sooner rather than later.

[CMDR FACE]

I would really like it if people stopped acting like $15 is a fortune.

Geez, that's not even half a night out.

Right.  $15 for like 5 hours of my time?  Sure.  Movies cost about the same and take less time.

Lol...New quest, new side quests, new dragon, new boss fights, new crafting materials, new loot, new banter.  Overall fun. Final verdict: Not worth it.   Wait.  What?