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#76
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I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth.  I mentioned that your opinion was that the adviser romances don't count in your eyes.  I also mentioned that there was some that disagreed with you.  I'm not sure why it's a problem to say, "Other people have felt the same way as I did."  That isn't speaking for everyone, nor trying to encourage a hive mindset.

 

Okay here's why: Have you ever heard the phrase "Well, it goes without saying?"  It goes without saying when I avoid phrases like "All GLBT people feel _______________" that I probably don't feel that "All GLBT people feel something".

 

I said mentioned companion romances for a reason and said why.  I didn't say that everyone would agree with me.  I said it in an offhand way that I could see where gay and lesbian PCs would feel that they have less options within party.  Does that mean I think they all think that?  No and why would it?  I don't speak in terms of all people, all things, all this or that because that's just a logical fallacy of the extreme.

 

I don't need to be told that all people don't think something.  I don't need to be told how I should phrase myself either.  I have said repeatedly that I am an voluntarist and an individualst instead of a collectivist so why would I speak for other people of same-sex attraction? 

 

I wasn't attempting to speak for the GLBT community, I wasn't trying to say that all GLBT people feel a certain way.  I said that gay men and women having 2 options for their orientation is cut down by the fact that they don't leave the keep with you.  That's all.  That doesn't imply that I think gay men and women hate it or love it.

 

I think you are a nice person.  I certainly do.  I'm not a Disney princess so I'm not always going to say things the way you or anyone else wants me to say them.  I will go so far as to say that you're probably nicer than I am.  I am only speaking to you about this because I want you to understand where I am coming from.

 

I don't need to be told, nor do most people that a caveat about "all" is necessary when it can be inferred.  That's all I'm saying and I hope we can just squash this before it gets stupid.  I think you're nice.  I think you're interesting.  Let's be done.


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I wasn't trying to state that you were speaking for an entire group either.  I'm really sorry if it came across that way.  That wasn't my intent, promise.  :(

 

You've also been excellent at not making blanket statements as well.  It seems like we had a nice case of total miscommunication.  I'm willing to call it here if you are.  :)


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I wasn't trying to state that you were speaking for an entire group either.  I'm really sorry if it came across that way.  That wasn't my intent, promise.   :(

 

You've also been excellent at not making blanket statements as well.  It seems like we had a nice case of total miscommunication.  I'm willing to call it here if you are.   :)

 

Of course.  I was feeling very Bianca del Rio today (ask Daveliam).  Maybe tomorrow I'll be back to my Buddha self.



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Of course.  I was feeling very Bianca del Rio today (ask Daveliam).  Maybe tomorrow I'll be back to my Buddha self.

Out of likes, figures.

 

I go with the Dude for myself, most of the time.  :P



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Out of likes, figures.

 

I go with the Dude for myself, most of the time.   :P

 

Why because you hate the Eaglessss, mannnnn?  :)



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As in the band?  I find some of their stuff alright, but I'm one of the oddballs that liked the album The Long Run the most.  They tend to get overplayed in my city.  If you mean the football team, I'm a born and raised Broncos fan.  :D

 

I'm a big fan of the Big Lebowski and especially of the main character.  Everyone finds Zen in their own way, I suppose.  :P



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As in the band?  I find some of their stuff alright, but I'm one of the oddballs that liked the album The Long Run the most.  They tend to get overplayed in my city.  If you mean the football team, I'm a born and raised Broncos fan.   :D

 

I'm a big fan of the Big Lebowski and especially of the main character.  Everyone finds Zen in their own way, I suppose.   :P

 

 

No, I was joking about that scene in the movie where the Dude gets kicked out of the taxi for hating the Eagles.



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No, I was joking about that scene in the movie where the Dude gets kicked out of the taxi for hating the Eagles.

<thud>  Yep, I need more coffee.  Reference...right over my head and there's no good excuse for it.   I feel silly I didn't catch that sooner.    :blush:



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All this fighting is bad for my cholesterol.


Ooh, Allan's back. That's cool, I guess.

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FEMALE QUNARI TAL VASHOTH WAFFIOR MAGE NEXT GAME PLS

 

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DAI already has double as much romances as DAO and DA2 so I doubt they will add any in the game anymore.

 

yes, but those are incomparable, cos in DAO you could romance Lelliana with any character and in DA2 you could romance Isabella with any character. DAI has no interesting female choices for lesbian inquisitors. Best woman in whole DAI is Cassandra, but she is not into women. Sera is just a stupid street urchin with really annoying slang and half of the time she doesn't make sense and Josephine is boring golden spoon fed moron...


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yes, but those are incomparable, cos in DAO you could romance Lelliana with any character and in DA2 you could romance Isabella with any character. DAI has no interesting female choices for lesbian inquisitors. Best woman in whole DAI is Cassandra, but she is not into women. Sera is just a stupid street urchin with really annoying slang and half of the time she doesn't make sense and Josephine is boring golden spoon fed moron...

 

Actually DAI is much better off number-wise for lesbian PC than DAO, since there is 2 choices and you aren't stuck with one. It's same as DA2. Quality is debatable, but there is lot of players who didn't like Leliana, Isabela or Merrill either.



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You have to be willing to conscript the mages to date her and throw Varric under a bus.

 

Who knew?

 

Mages were given but siding with her against my buddy Varric was almost too much. Nearly broke it for me.



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Mages were given but siding with her against my buddy Varric was almost too much. Nearly broke it for me.


I conscripted the Templars and sided with Varric in their argument, still managed to romance her.
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Actually DAI is much better off number-wise for lesbian PC than DAO, since there is 2 choices and you aren't stuck with one. It's same as DA2. Quality is debatable, but there is lot of players who didn't like Leliana, Isabela or Merrill either.

 

well yes, but from what I read on this forum majority loved Lelliana and Isabella. I understand the need for diversity, but why not keep or follow the steps of what people like and throw something different for those who don't? Both Isabella and Lelliana are seasoned woman not some kids like Sera (well to pick relationship with her you must either be a teenager or a ped... ehm predator otehrwise it's just like dating your daughter's/niece's classmate which I consider to be sick) and both are open minded while Josephine is aristocrat. They kept no trait from either of those characters and the question is why...



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:huh:

 

Okay, that might be the case for you, but some of the players are 18-20 years old.  The same approximate age as Sera, so it wouldn't be gross or sick for them.  They would be more or less in the same peer group.  



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well yes, but from what I read on this forum majority loved Lelliana and Isabella. I understand the need for diversity, but why not keep or follow the steps of what people like and throw something different for those who don't? Both Isabella and Lelliana are seasoned woman not some kids like Sera (well to pick relationship with her you must either be a teenager or a ped... ehm predator otehrwise it's just like dating your daughter's/niece's classmate which I consider to be sick) and both are open minded while Josephine is aristocrat. They kept no trait from either of those characters and the question is why...

 

I'd say that it's because Bioware likes to do different kind of characters. Any of Leliana, Isabela, Merrill, Sera and Josephine don't have much in common, everyone has different intrest, loyalties and personality traits. Personally I think everyone of them has their immature moments, though I understand the critism against Sera.


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well to pick relationship with her you must either be a teenager or a ped... ehm predator otehrwise it's just like dating your daughter's/niece's classmate which I consider to be sick

 

Uh, is her exact age ever actually determined in the game? I'm pretty sure she's an adult, even if in her very early 20's. In any case, the age gap is kind of a silly argument, since even sexagenarians or higher can play this game, making everybody the equivalent of their grandchildren.


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I think Bioware best bet is to diversity LIs across the board, which they have been doing to a degree, to satisfy as many preferences as they can. 

 

I personally found DAO romance options to be lacking, while DA2 romance to be excellent, and DAI romance to be enjoyable. I would not expect that I will enjoy romance in the next game, but at least I can say that there is at least one romance option in the whole series that I really like.



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The two extra romances for female Inquisitors that were added when the game was delayed where implemented for different reasons (IMO);

 

Cullen; fanservice as he has  been a popular character in the community.

Solas; Story-reason as to add depth.

 

apart them it was equal across romance & it sucks you didn't like the romances you wanted to enjoy in this game.

 

who knows in the next game you will love the female character romances and their will be players who hate the male characters romances & they maybe more female romances than male romances next time or more overall who knows.

 

Swings and Roundabouts.....



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Uh, is her exact age ever actually determined in the game? I'm pretty sure she's an adult, even if in her very early 20's. In any case, the age gap is kind of a silly argument, since even sexagenarians or higher can play this game, making everybody the equivalent of their grandchildren.

 

socially acceptable is half your age +8 so for 20 years old it's somewhere between 18 and 24. For a 30 year old it's 23-44 and for 40years old it's 28-64. Sera is acting like she was 14-17 going thru her wild phase altho her physical appearance suggest more like 20-25 or whatever elven equivalent which is irrelevant cos what matters is her "psychical age" (if you can use that term on fictional character) which is clearly teenager (which means up to 19)



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I might agree if the original choices for heterosexual females were more broadly appealing. There's "not my type" and then there's inviting female players to choose between a love interest likely to injure them physically and someone who leaves them lying naked in a barn. Just sayin'

 

Urrgh, yes..

 

Blackwall *facepalm*



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well yes, but from what I read on this forum majority loved Lelliana and Isabella. I understand the need for diversity, but why not keep or follow the steps of what people like and throw something different for those who don't? Both Isabella and Lelliana are seasoned woman not some kids like Sera (well to pick relationship with her you must either be a teenager or a ped... ehm predator otehrwise it's just like dating your daughter's/niece's classmate which I consider to be sick) and both are open minded while Josephine is aristocrat. They kept no trait from either of those characters and the question is why...

 

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I was just lurking.

 

I had no intention of getting involved.

 

Until I read THAT.

 

Alright, first off, I'm quite reasonable. But accusing people of being pedo's or predators or making assumptions that we're teenagers, just doesn't float my boat, sorry.

 

1. Sera is not a kid. She is an adult. She likes to have fun, she has her own way of talking (commonly referred to as "slang"), and she doesn't take any crap -- she is straight to the point and if she doesn't agree with you, she'll outright state it. While this may offend people, to me, honesty is much more preferable to "Okay I agree" *insert character here greatly disapproves* which I had come across quite a bit with the other companions.

 

2. If you paid any attention, you'd realise that she's been through a lot. Now, it isn't quite clear, as she doesn't go into detail but; she moved around a lot, and started running with the Red Jennies.. as a kid, she witnessed the blight. These matters, in theory, would be quite tough to deal with. But at the end of the day, she is self-reliant and independant, and knows how to take care of herself. These are not aspects of "a child", or a "teenager".

 

3. Just because somebody likes to have a bit of fun, and enjoys toilet humour, it doesn't make them stupid. Sera proves, in her own way, that she is quite intelligent. You don't need to be boring, use fancy words and act all high and mighty.

 

Lastly, while Sera cops a fair amount of hate she also has a lot of love. She is my favourite character in the whole series, to the point that I've romanced her five times and refuse to try anybody else.

 

I don't have an issue with you having an opinion in regards to liking or disliking a character; my issue is your accusation that we're all predators, pedos or teenagers.

 

Ironically, that kind of statement is a little narrow-minded.. thus leading to.. childish. :whistle:


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To soothe the pain a bit, you can go back and change your warden to "Died against the archdemon" as revenge against Leliana and your warden for C-blocking your Inquisitor. It still doesent make Leliana romancable but at least then noone can have her. 

(If that doesent sound creepy or anything) :P