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[AWTEW]

I don't even want to ask...

 

 Someone, used the models from the game: and made an animated gif of a Vorcha boning Liara. It was one of the tamer gifs you can find on tumblr.

[DarthLaxian]

The latest DLC is out and the reception is beyond bad. Timed exclusivity is a bad move and it shouldn't happen in the first place. I understand people complaining about it. But saying the DLC is worthless? Really? 

Of course, you can choose not to buy it but at least pay respect to the people who made it. The whole DLC needs countless man-hours to develop. The devs did their best to deliver us a great product. Then the product isn't up to your taste, you just describe it 'worthless'.

P.S: I know many will find my opinion 'invalid' or 'fanboyish' but I'm being honest.

 

It's not only the DLC - many of those devs have shown that they don't respect us (they'd rather force their "artistic vision" on us - and they don't listen to us, ever!), so why shouldn't we return the favour (note: I am not saying that you should call them names etc. - you don't have to agree or cheer them on though!)

 

greetings LAX

[perfect_victime]

You can respect someone and still think the work they did was terrible. I don't have the DLC, but from the looks of it, it is still making the same mistakes that they made in DAI. If you keep making the same mistakes I'm going to keep pointing them out until you learn from them. I respect that they spend time and energy on their product, but I'm not going to lie or downplay how disappointing it is. That does nothing to help them improve.

See her is someone I can respect for the most part. Not that I agree with fizzypop, but she makes her point by not buying a product that she don't like. It really is that simple folks. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Buy responsible. Look for others who share your opinion and buy or don't buy based on their review. In todays modern media, it is impossible to buy a product without knowing anything about it.

Or be like me and buy it because its Bioware lol Seriously. I preorder everything but I trust I am going to like the game, and that is good for me, but not good for others who are more picky. There were bad things in DA:O there were bad things in DA:2 and there are bad things in DA:I but overall they are ALL really fun to play FOR ME. But maybe I am the exception to the rule.

Buy responsibly.

[Rannik]

But saying the DLC is worthless? Really?

From wikitionary:
worthless
Not having worth and use, without value, inconsequential.
 
This DLC is worth 0€ to me, I don't have the slightless interest in playing it and therefore I have no use for it, which makes it 100% inconsequential.
 
For me, it fits the definition of "worthless" perfectly well.
 

Then the product isn't up to your taste, you just describe it 'worthless'.

 

Because it is, and there's nothing wrong with that.

 

If I'm not willing to pay absolutely anything for a product then that product has no worth, and again... there's nothing irrespectful about it, putting some value on a product is not mandatory unless you live in North Korea.

 

If you want to get into market microstructures, discuss price formation and argue why the DLC is objectively worth X I don't think this is the place for it, here we express opinions and have casual conversations from a consumer PoV.
 

P.S: I know many will find my opinion 'invalid' or 'fanboyish' but I'm being honest.

Being honest does not make you any less wrong.

[DanteYoda]

From what i've read customers are saying its been stripped from the game prior to sales and that it really adds very little to the over all game but adds more fetch questing to boot... of what we asked for less of.

 

To me it sounds worthless as a DLC personally as the original game wasn't what i'd call stellar.. But then they have the gall to charge me $24.99 for a rather lackluster stripped out part of the game...

 

I say sorry Bioware i wont fall for those shenanigans again.. 

[Steelcan]

From what i've read customers are saying its been stripped from the game prior to sales and that it really adds very little to the over all game but adds more fetch questing to boot... of what we asked for less of.

 

To me it sounds worthless as a DLC personally as the original game wasn't what i'd call stellar.. But then they have the gall to charge me $24.99 for a rather lackluster stripped out part of the game...

 

I say sorry Bioware i wont fall for those shenanigans again.. 

idk about you but I paid $15

[Nefla]

idk about you but I paid $15

In North America it's $15, in some countries it's more.

[DanteYoda]

idk about you but I paid $15

Australians are being charged $24.99 why i have no idea, $24.99 doesn't equate to US $15 in any way shape or form...

[Fozee]

Australians are being charged $24.99 why i have no idea, $24.99 doesn't equate to US $15 in any way shape or form...

 

Hey, it costs a lot of money to compile the code upside-down. 

[LPPrince]

Hey, it costs a lot of money to compile the code upside-down. 

 

The avatar threw me off, didn't realize it was you. hahaha

 

Anyway to add on to the subject- I think a lot of people joke around immaturely which to an extent is fine, but once it reaches a certain point goes a bit far, especially if it carries into the realm of opinions on products and the people who made them/are involved with them.

 

Devs aren't the only ones who get abuse;mods do too. The mudslinging goes towards both in some cases, and...ick. Nah. This place needs more mods, active ones that hopefully post on a somewhat regular basis, getting a feel for the forum. But if that were to happen, the inherent hate towards authority and rallying against rule enforcers could potentially lead us back to where we are now. An odd almost desolate feeling state.

 

Anyway, seeing Fozee again reminded me that mods get flak too.

 

And even though its unrelated to what I was just detailing, the rarity of a Fozee sighting for me is like seeing a legendary pokémon in the wild. You go to catch it but it ran away and you gotta wait till next time or start counting steps on the map with the Pokédex. hahaha

 

Good to see your handle again. 

[BabyPuncher]

I think the developers listen to what appears to be the majority of players entirely too much.

 

Seems like the vast majority of players think the solution to any and all narrative shortcomings is either more cuddles or more angst. Implemented by BioWare in Inquisition and ME 3 respectively to suitably terrible results. I would expect a professional to understand why neither of those things actually make a narrative smarter, but that doesn't seem to be the case. 

 

Unfortunately, it seems to be pretty much the same song and dance with the writing industry as a whole.

[Fozee]

 

Good to see your handle again. 

 

I don't get around as much as I used to, nursing school and things these days. The numbered mods have the place very well cleaned up too, so it's hard to spend my free time where it's really not needed. I believe in moderators participating in discussion though, so there's always a place.

[TaHol]

I have plenty of respect to every human being in this planet. Every single one. Even those who are generally seen as being "unworthy". That does not mean I have to respect what they DO. BioWare does not make products for their love of humanity, they do it to earn living and profit.

 

One form of maturity is to understand the difference between you, as person, being criticized, and your work, or what you have done, being criticized. I expect adults to understand the difference. One form of maturity is to learn to not be triggered about stuff other people do. You understand it has nothing to do with you, and you let them be.

 

I have no respect for products BioWare makes these days because they just develope what they are told to develope. It is really that simple. They don't do what they want, they do what they are told to do. I don't respect that.

 

Believe me, if I wouldn't respect people, I would open my mouth and tell everyone what I think about Mike Laidlaw. I think plenty, not pretty things. But it would be unrespectful from me to attack other human being and what he does is not really my business, if he can live with himself with good concious, good for him.

 

But when it comes to product called DAI I can say what i want because it has no feelings and no soul. And this game definitely has no soul. Developers don't care if it has one either, because they just produced what they were told to produce. BioWare used to be a company with vision, creativity and courage. BioWare today is a part of industry that produces what it is told to produce and PR-department handles the rest.

[LPPrince]

I don't get around as much as I used to, nursing school and things these days. The numbered mods have the place very well cleaned up too, so it's hard to spend my free time where it's really not needed. I believe in moderators participating in discussion though, so there's always a place.

 

Aye. I hope to see you around a bit more(though you've always been a "once in a blue moon" type person to me). And I hope to God to see more mods discussing things like the rest of us.

[AWTEW]

i know of that one, just don't post it.

 

People can google it if they want to see it.

 

I have plenty of respect to every human being in this planet. Every single one. Even those who are generally seen as being "unworthy". That does not mean I have to respect what they DO. BioWare does not make products for their love of humanity, they do it to earn living and profit.

 

One form of maturity is to understand the difference between you, as person, being criticized, and your work, or what you have done, being criticized. I expect adults to understand the difference. One form of maturity is to learn to not be triggered about stuff other people do. You understand it has nothing to do with you, and you let them be.

 

I have no respect for products BioWare makes these days because they just develope what they are told to develope. It is really that simple. They don't do what they want, they do what they are told to do. I don't respect that.

 

Believe me, if I wouldn't respect people, I would open my mouth and tell everyone what I think about Mike Laidlaw. I think plenty, not pretty things. But it would be unrespectful from me to attack other human being and what he does is not really my business, if he can live with himself with good concious, good for him.

 

But when it comes to product called DAI I can say what i want because it has no feelings and no soul. And this game definitely has no soul. Developers don't care if it has one either, because they just produced what they were told to produce. BioWare used to be a company with vision, creativity and courage. BioWare today is a part of industry that produces what it is told to produce and PR-department handles the rest.

 

OMGAWD YOU TRIGGERED ME WAHH! HOW DARE YOU DO THIS!I'M GOING TO REPORT YOU FOR THIS! 

 

Australians are being charged $24.99 why i have no idea, $24.99 doesn't equate to US $15 in any way shape or form...

 

 I'd say regulations but :/. Honest;y, it's really just a rip off.

[LPPrince]

This place is  respectful and squeaky clean compared to tumblr.

 

I'll say this- The BSN at its worst has never been as bad as some places are on a regular basis.

[LPPrince]

From what i've read customers are saying its been stripped from the game prior to sales and that it really adds very little to the over all game but adds more fetch questing to boot... of what we asked for less of.

 

I don't see how anybody can know if it was stripped from the main game or not. I get having that feeling for a day one DLC, but this one came out way after day one.

 

Sure they could just delay its release, but I'm far more willing to believe this was a post-launch title.

 

People need to be a bit more open-minded. Posters being set in their beliefs is part of the reason this place isn't as good as it could be.

[Nefla]

I don't see how anybody can know if it was stripped from the main game or not. I get having that feeling for a day one DLC, but this one came out way after day one.

 

Sure they could just delay its release, but I'm far more willing to believe this was a post-launch title.

 

People need to be a bit more open-minded. Posters being set in their beliefs is part of the reason this place isn't as good as it could be.

I kind of get the impression that it was a little of both. A zone that was mostly rendered when DA:I came out but was finished and the quests put in after. (like they ran out of time) I have nothing to go on of course and don't really care either way but there you go

[Vox Draco]

From the devs, with love!

 

 

Jesus loves you all! And Bhudda! And Mohammed! And Andraste! And THE SHEPARD! (who could forget ... )

[Bowen Askani]

In the thread "First DLC: Jaws of Hakkon"  Sylv F responded to the accusation that the DLC was part of the main game and stripped out to be DLC. She said that as one of the writers of the DLC she could assure us that the entire DLC was made after DA:I was finished. (I am on IE so I can't quote, but you can go to the thread and click on the Bioware icon to read her post.)

 

Some people complained about that though. They complained because if everything was made after the game came out, they felt that meant that the devs "didn't listen to feedback." 

 

In an interview Mike Laidlaw reportedly said (I read this in the thread, I don't have the source) that there were two camps among the devs on how to do DLC. One camp wanted to make DLC just the same as the main game and the other camp wanted more story heavy DLC. Apparently the first camp won with regards to the JOH.

[Petiertje]

The latest DLC is out and the reception is beyond bad. Timed exclusivity is a bad move and it shouldn't happen in the first place. I understand people complaining about it. But saying the DLC is worthless? Really? 

Of course, you can choose not to buy it but at least pay respect to the people who made it. The whole DLC needs countless man-hours to develop. The devs did their best to deliver us a great product. Then the product isn't up to your taste, you just describe it 'worthless'.

P.S: I know many will find my opinion 'invalid' or 'fanboyish' but I'm being honest.

I don't know for sure, when people are unhappy about, or because of something, they tend to seek someone or something to blame for their disappointment or whatever feeling it is their uncomfortable with. I do criticize the game sometimes when I am disappointed by a feature or part of the story. It's normal that I give my opinion to people who developed the game. Who else should I give my feedback to? 

I think I know what you mean though, It's the tone in which the feedback is given sometimes/regularly/often (just pick how you see it). The 'problem' isn't that there is feedback/reaction to new content and it's related issues, nor the people who it's given to. It's the way people express their feedback that is the problem. And if people think the DLC is so bad it's worthless, well, I wouldn't be happy either if people describe my product in such a way. but at least their honest, and all I hope is that they described why they think it's worthless.

 

This is just my opinion though, feel free to have another one  .

Also, sorry if there are some weird words/grammar in my post, English isn't my native language. (feel free to correct if needed, it lets me learn from it)

 

 

>Just try to give your opinion with respect to others, and you can say anything.<

[Bunny]

I'm all for the right to express one's opinions, but I also value kindness. People in charge are people too.

 

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[pdusen]

Because people, as a rule, always think that they know more than they do, so they look down on people who don't share their oh-so-well-informed opinion.