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[Wiggs Magee]

If a DLC is garbage i think players are perfectly reasonable to call it out as such.

A developer gets paid to create this content and its charged to the players, its not like an act of charity and given to the players for free.

 

Ride to Hell: Retribution was a terrible poorly made game, regardless of if the developers 'put in alot of work into it'

Granted i think all criticism should be constructive.

If people feel that charging $15 for just added side quests with little story content is not good, then they're free to make that opinion

[Zu Long]

I'm playing the ME series again (only for the 3rd time) while I patiently await reviews and possible bugs with the new DLC. Also, and this isn't a complaint, I'm also waiting to see if there is any problems that arise with mods and the DLC. I'd rather wait a bit and do the research rather than run into a stumbling block for my mods. If BioWare would give us a clothing tinting table and fix the two bugged out mosaic pieces, I wouldn't be as worried about it.

Thanks so much! Keep us posted and I look forward to it.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but there already is a tint table. They added it with the storage chest. It's next to the buy/sell stand in the Undercroft at Skyhold.

Also, at least one of the mosaic pieces has been fixed as of patch 6.

[KBomb]

Not to put too fine a point on it, but there already is a tint table. They added it with the storage chest. It's next to the buy/sell stand in the Undercroft at Skyhold.

Also, at least one of the mosaic pieces has been fixed as of patch 6.

I could be wrong, but I think she meant for the Skyhold casual outfit.

[mindw0rk]

10 years ago I considered Bioware to be kings of RPG genre. But after DA2, SWTOR and now DAI with its useless DLC I have little respect left. Other then Mass Effect Next (and only since Im big fan of series) I dont care about anything they will do in a future. It feels like all the talented people quit company and those who left just work for salary, with no passion or even slightest interest in what they are doing.

[Alchir]

I don't think developers themselves nowadays have any say in what is being done with the buns once they are out of the oven. This is what we get when cash grabbing people are in charge of the creative ones. 

[Incantrix]

So I just google'd "Tali's sweat"

 

Holy moly, I knew BSN posters could be weird...but this was just bizarre. If I were a BW employee, I wouldn't want to read this forum either. 

 

This must've been posted after my hiatus before the board was moved here.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

The price of this DLC should have been 10 USD. A 15 USD DLC from Bioware should give us content and variety that is similar to that of Citadel DLC. Jaws of Hakkon is more like Overlord. It is not bad but for the price, especially compared to Bioware's previous work coupled with its exclusivity is something that should be criticized. 

 

The DLC itself is typical Dragon Age Inquisition fare. Large pretty areas with a decent story with the lore somewhat hidden beneath. Very Skyrim-ish. There are those who criticize it for that which is also fair since they want the tight more in-your-face storytelling and lore, like in Origins. 

 

Respect for developers does not mean kowtowing to everything the developers say and/or publish. That would be submission, a Tranquil-like existence. None of us here a Tranquils, so...

[Bayonet Hipshot]

*snip*

 

Shite like aggressive playerbase is reality of producing a luxury item. Reality, Draken. Draken, Reality. I bid you welcome and hope you both get well acquainted. 

 

You see this in music, in songs, in movies and in comics. That video games should somehow be different and/or pure is a rather unrealistic view to have. So is notion of shutting down the forums as well. 

[Boogielicious]

Just as I'm sure you respect the IRS employees who process your tax return & issue your refund, or the garbage collectors who haul your trash away, the people who stock shelves at the grocery store, the people who clean up & dispose of road kill, the HR employees who make sure you get your paycheck, aka., the billions of people who do their job each and every day.

[Hazegurl]

Theres criticism and then theres outright trolling and bullying. This forum has become a toxic cesspool.

[Boogielicious]

Yes and no. You're describing jobs that are more functional than they are creative. For all intents and purposes, we need someone to clean up the trash, process our finances, and do all of the mundane tasks in order to keep an infrastructure going. If EA was to suddenly disappear off the face of the earth, civilization's routine would not be devastated. 

 

Generally speaking, there is no inherent need for video games. They are entertainment - a luxury for most first world societies. Should we respect the people who are simply doing their jobs? Well sure, but no one tends to think about it since it all runs like clockwork. But as players of a video game, we choose to invest in this avenue of entertainment. We do not *have* to buy these games in order to survive. (Well, maybe some do. haha!) We go out of our way to seek these developers' product which is pretty much not a necessity. They aren't doing us any favors, sure, but they are giving us a luxury that so many others do not get to enjoy.

My point is this: My feelings differ greatly between what I feel for my health insurance company vs. what I feel about an inspiring piece of art or music. A song or story can make a person cry. Can you really say the same about the person who comes over to hook up your cable? (Well maybe you can if you just really love cable.)

Sorry, I don't agree.  I'm pretty sure if nobody was doing their "functional" jobs, you'd be way more inclined to be emotional.  When garbage collectors go on strike for months in your area, I imagine you'd appreciate them that much more.  When your paycheck is reduced due to clerical or system error, you are really going to appreciate the HR employee who straightens it out.  And you might not have feelings for your health insurance company now, but that would change if/when you needed life saving procedures that could possibly force you into bankruptcy without them.  Perhaps that scenario would make you cry.

 

We don't *have* to buy from McDonald's in order to survive either, and that too can be considered a first world luxury that many others do not get to enjoy (enjoy being subjective here).

 

Everyone has a job to do, and no matter how miniscule or unimportant or uninspiring it seems to you, they are no less valuable than anyone else.  I don't see the need to put game developers on a pedestal over any of those other jobs, simply because "no one tends to think about it since it all runs like clockwork."  I actually find that rather sad.

[mindw0rk]

they don't deserve respect for ruining one of my favourite game franchises (DA)
and turning it into some lame skyrim clone (a game I absolutely hated)
 

 

I dont see much in common with Skyrim. Even open world in DAI is artificial since it is just big zones

[DarkKnightHolmes]

If you expect nice things from the internet, you're gonna have a bad time.

 

BSN is hardly the worse place like some people here make it out to be, go to some other forums and the Bioware bashing is much worse.

[Morroian]

Theres criticism and then theres outright trolling and bullying. This forum has become a toxic cesspool.

 

You were here during DA2 and ME3 so you must know that the forum is nowhere near as bad as it was then.

[SnakeCode]

If you expect nice things from the internet, you're gonna have a bad time.

 

BSN is hardly the worse place like some people here make it out to be, go to some other forums and the Bioware bashing is much worse.

 

Tumblr makes the BSN look like the friendliest place ever.

[glosoli]

Eh, still better than the Mass Effect 3 devs. They all went into the underground bunker after the Ending debacle.

 

There were DEATH THREATS because of the ending. LOL can you believe that?

[NaclynE]

I don't respect developers that intend to rush out to release games, get games out every year, and put out games that are glitchy beyond hell.

 

All i can say right now about BIOWARE is I can at least give them props for taking their time to make DAI. They kind of hit my spit list going from MASS EFFECT 1 to MASS EFFECT 2 to MASS EFFECT 3. To me usually if a game takes longer than 4 years you know it's going to be mega awesome. Honestly MASS EFFECT 2 was a fluke while MASS EFFECT 3 was just ok in my book. Unlike some companies I know of like UBISOFT at least BIOWARE knows when they make mistakes and learn from that and try to do better. UBISOFT I swear sometimes gets to me where i can easily tell they rush making games. 

 

I know I am being "OT" since people here are talking about the DLC issue or whatever but to me I am just going by what the subject is which is "Why don't people respect the devs".

[Chuvvy]

I don't even respect myself mate.

[Chiramu]

10 years ago I considered Bioware to be kings of RPG genre. But after DA2, SWTOR and now DAI with its useless DLC I have little respect left. Other then Mass Effect Next (and only since Im big fan of series) I dont care about anything they will do in a future. It feels like all the talented people quit company and those who left just work for salary, with no passion or even slightest interest in what they are doing.

 

Square Enix is now overpassing the western RPG makers now imo. With the changes to the traditional FF gameplay to a more action-orientated combat that western fans are used to I think western RPG makers need to start looking at what Square is up to. FFXV is going to be so big! FFType-0 has fantastic combat and it still has the original FF feel to it as well.

 

Western RPG makers seem to be sitting in complacence because they poo-poo "JRPGs".

[NextGenCowboy]

If the paradigm does shift back to Eastern RPGs then it will have happened after around 14 years of WRPG dominance due to that same mindset, and complacency, except from them, to the west. I adore Eastern RPGs, always have, and I started with them back in Dragon Warrior days, but the last decade+ hasn't been kind, and I can count the great titles, not made by small, or relatively small companies thinking outside the box, like Atlus, and tri-Ace on one hand.

 

Personally, I'm of the opinion that all people deserve respect, generally until they do something that shows me, or the world, that they're no longer worthy of respect. A developer making a game I dislike may irk me, it may frustrate, especially if they shift focus away from what I like*, but that's not enough to lose my respect. In most cases, I do have my limits, if they released Big Rigs, then seriously, screw 'em =p

 

* That's not really happening here. I like DAI, a lot. I do with the central narrative was longer, with a tighter focus, and that's definitely what I'd like to see out of the DLC, and I'm disapointed that's not what this new one focused on, but on he whole, I enjoy DAI, and think it's a good game, worthy of most of its praise.

[Chiramu]

If the paradigm does shift back to Eastern RPGs then it will have happened after around 14 years of WRPG dominance due to that same mindset, and complacency...

 

It doesn't have to "shift" if game developers look at NOW.