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[Warden Majere]

Oh, and i don't know how someone misses a towering angry ice giant, but I did. where is it located on the map?

[Boost32]

Oh, and i don't know how someone misses a towering angry ice giant, but I did. where is it located on the map?

East from the camp, be prepared, he is tough and his ice attack hits like a truck.

[Warden Majere]

thanks Boost32. So, I'm not seeing how to judge the bear. If it contains spoilers, could someone just PM me with the details. I would really love to pass some righteous judgment!

[Boost32]

thanks Boost32. So, I'm not seeing how to judge the bear. If it contains spoilers, could someone just PM me with the details. I would really love to pass some righteous judgment!

You need to finish the main quest and have five favors with the hold, after that you need to speak with the Avvar leader (I think you need to speak with her twice or thrice)

[Rekkampum]

I keep hearing there are more customizations for Skyhold but can't find them.

[Boost32]

I keep hearing there are more customizations for Skyhold but can't find them.

You need to buy them at one shop in bear-hold, here is a throne, drapery, glass, decoir, heraldry and a bed.

[Rekkampum]

You need to buy them at one shop in bear-hold, here is a throne, drapery, glass, decoir, heraldry and a bed.

 

Ahhhh gotcha.

[Warden Majere]

@Boost32 Thank you once again. The dialogue was priceless! 

[AVPen]

Also for those curious.... Yes, you can actually find Masterwork Schematics for the same armor that belonged to Inquisitor Ameridan ("Vestments/Armor/Plate Mail of the Dragon Hunter") - they are Tier 4 armors schematics and are capable of having the highest defense of any armor currently in the game (though the armor doesn't have any modification slots for armor pieces, unfortunately).

 

To receive the schematics, you have to complete a war table operation called "Assuage Ameridan's Heirs", which is received after completing the main quest "Ameridan's End" and then talking to Professor Kenric at your main base camp and tell him the "truth" about Inquisitor Amerdan.

 

EDIT: You can also find the Masterwork Schematics for the unique Tier 4 Hakkon weapons - Hakkon's Honor (1-handed sword), Valor (2-handed sword), Wisdom (staff), and Mercy (dagger) - during the "Ameridan's End" mission as well, though it requires a little bit of searching (and Veilfire....); like the armor schematics, the weapons are capable of the highest damage in the game, but lack any weapon modification slots, save for a rune slot.

 

Also, the Hakkon weapons have a really unique sound to them when they're being used.... almost sounds similar to a lightsaber from Star Wars, lol. 

[Roxy]

I like it so far I just don't like that you have to wait till your level 20 or so...I mean I know you can try at a lower level but sadly you will have your rear handed to you,this DLC is a bit challenging which I like of course and I love the loot you get when you close a rift.      

[Unable2Connect]

To receive the schematics, you have to complete a war table operation called "Assuage Ameridan's Heirs", which is received after completing the main quest "Ameridan's End".

 

Is there anything else you have to do to get this? I finished the main quest and all the side quests except collecting the shards and never got this as an operation.

[AVPen]

Is there anything else you have to do to get this? I finished the main quest and all the side quests except collecting the shards and never got this as an operation.

Oh, duh, totally forgot - I think you also have to go and talk to that Professor over at your main base camp and tell him the "truth" about Inquisitor Amerdan after you complete the "Ameridan's End" quest, then the war table operation should trigger (adding that to the previous post as well).

[Unable2Connect]

Thanks! That'll be what I missed, I totally forgot about that guy.

[Aimi]

I enjoyed the DLC. Doing it blind on Nightmare was a lot of fun.

I also enjoyed that many of the ambient things in the DLC seemed to incorporate a lot of the sorts of goofy things that I talk about. Many of my posts in the forums have discussed aspects of the setting that don't make much sense by historical analogy - trade, armies, food, marginal societies, etc. I can't say that they were specifically called out in the DLC, but it felt like many of those things were addressed in some way. Sperlas ahead...

Spoiler

For example, the "Jawbreaker" mission to clear the Hakkonites from the river in conjunction with regular Inquisition forces was interesting because the soldiers said that the reason they wanted to secure the river was to bring supplies in from Skyhold. I've called out the supply arrangements for field armies in the game before (for instance, the siege of Adamant, which happens in the middle of a desert, which makes no sense) and I've also pointed out that the games seem to emphasize land-based transport (which was historically expensive over long distances and rarely used) over water transport (which wasn't). Bringing stuff down the river is the sort of thing that a real army might actually have done. Now, the river is super shallow and has a lot of cataracts and rapids, and it's kinda silly that it could go all the way from Skyhold to the Frostback Basin, but at that point the nits that are being picked are super super tiny.

Or alternatively, take Harding's idea of burning dung as fuel. It's played partly for laughs, sure. But it's also totally a Thing. When I talk about the Dalish, I often mention that they do not really act like a society that keeps animals, because their halla appear to be used for nothing other than draft animals; they're too "respected" or "revered" for other purposes. But most Earth nomadic societies don't have the luxury of keeping animals around for just one purpose. Bedouin ride camels but also eat camel meat and drink camel milk. Same with Mongols and horses. And the Sami of Scandinavia use reindeer for their meat, milk, horns, fur, and...they employ their dung as fuel.

The Dalish clans that have shown up in the games are portrayed as mistrustful of outsiders, especially humans; interaction with other marginal societies, like the Avvar in the Fallow Mire or the Chasind in Origins, mostly comes in the context of warfare. (Or, as with Movran the Under, the context of slapstick.) And it's true that many such societies on Earth often have friction with settled peoples. But limiting the view of them to such a tropetastic picture of savage, alien barbarians is both inaccurate in a specific sense and in a much larger sense; despite the propagandizing of both sides, marginal societies' interaction with settled societies is mostly characterized by trade and regular contact. Many, if not most, such groups rely on trade with settled peoples to come up with the sorts of things that they need; hostilities that last too long can interrupt crucial trade links and tear the society apart. In light of that, the Avvar of Stone-bear Hold were very refreshing to see. Their tradition of (guarded) hospitality to guests and willingness to trade makes a great deal more sense than a Dalish clan pointing arrows at any visitors and forcing them to jump through hoops in order to buy things from them. The Avvar merchant mentions going far afield to sell goods to lowlanders - maybe a bit too far afield, depending on the nature of his goods, but on the other hand, he really likes his business trips to Val Royeaux, so, y'know, whatevs. On the whole, the Stone-bear Avvar are real people that happen to be from a different society, instead of caricatures like the Chasind doomsayer in Lothering or our good buddy Movran.

And going back to the "food" angle, it was pretty sweet to see Avvar in the background fishing along the lake-shore, and to hear people in Stone-bear Hold talking about the catch. Most of the time, food supply doesn't really show up in the Dragon Age games as a concern, and when it does show up it doesn't usually make sense (like Orzammar shipping in most of its food via land trade with the surface through the Frostback Mountains). This isn't the age of refrigeration, railroads, and supermarkets; food sources usually had to be local and were often volatile. That the Avvar express concern about their food and are clearly depicted as acquiring it in a manner that makes sense was...well, like I said, it was sweet.

Throw in the fact that a tenure-track professor and one of his graduate students were key players in the plot, and this DLC was basically my catnip. It distracted me from my thesis for, like, twelve whole hours. As far as I'm concerned, that's worth fifteen dollars even without replaying it (and I definitely will be replaying it).

When I make a lot of the comments I make about the Dragon Age setting, I'm usually not trying to be a pompous, annoying b***h. As I'm at considerable pains to point out, the writers aren't academics and it's silly to expect them to be. "Oh, well, let me just check with my copy of Bartusis' Late Byzantine Army to verify the methods of recruitment and supply employed for these Inquisition soldiers before I write this Codex entry up!" Yeah, no. It's unreasonable to ask that the devs make a setting that fully checks out, because basically nobody can make a setting that fully checks out. (Even writers with doctorates in history rarely make settings that check out, as the travails of Harry Turtledove and William Forstchen demonstrate; hell, Tolkien was an expert on Anglo-Saxon history and fought in the Great War yet created a mythos that owed very little to either sound history or sound warfare.) It's down to what your personal suspension of disbelief can handle, and mine handles Dragon Age just fine.

But at the same time, it's never a bad thing when those little nits are addressed, even if the devs probably didn't do it based on my posts here. Either way, the DA team sure showed me - and I'm more than happy to say it. Good job, guys.

[Rekkampum]

Also for those curious.... Yes, you can actually find Masterwork Schematics for the same armor that belonged to Inquisitor Ameridan ("Vestments/Armor/Plate Mail of the Dragon Hunter") - they are Tier 4 armors schematics and are capable of having the highest defense of any armor currently in the game (though the armor doesn't have any modification slots for armor pieces, unfortunately).

 

To receive the schematics, you have to complete a war table operation called "Assuage Ameridan's Heirs", which is received after completing the main quest "Ameridan's End" and then talking to Professor Kenric at your main base camp and tell him the "truth" about Inquisitor Amerdan.

 

EDIT: You can also find the Masterwork Schematics for the unique Tier 4 Hakkon weapons - Hakkon's Honor (1-handed sword), Valor (2-handed sword), Wisdom (staff), and Mercy (dagger) - during the "Ameridan's End" mission as well, though it requires a little bit of searching (and Veilfire....); like the armor schematics, the weapons are capable of the highest damage in the game, but lack any weapon modification slots, save for a rune slot.

 

Also, the Hakkon weapons have a really unique sound to them when they're being used.... almost sounds similar to a lightsaber from Star Wars, lol. 

 

They also have some really rare fade-touched materials monsters can drop, etc. I got one that allowed whatever weapon I equipped it to use Pull of the Abyss.

[Sjofn]

What I would have liked to see:

More new armor appearances, the purple I got at the way end was ok enough, but the Refined Prowler Armor was butt ugly on me, so I stuck with my silverite trenchcoat most of the game even though it only had 206 armor.

 

This alone got a like from me, because I did the same exact thing, more or less. "Ooh, new T4 medium armor schema- ohgodsouglynevermind." I hate the armored medium skin a lot, so I was pretty sad they went with that instead of the coat.