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[Bayonet Hipshot]

So the first Inquisitor is an Andrastian+Dalish Elf ? His name is Ameridan. 

 

His tale is tragic but in an interesting way. He is like a playable character that we never played. He did good, had a love interest, had a four member party consisting of different races and different classes. 

 

I am pleasantly surprised.I wonder why no one has mentioned this before though. I mean in Origins, Garahel was known and since Elven heroes are not very common in Thedas, you would have thought that they would have mentioned this guy's name since he led the first Inquisition.

 

Btw, I hope Kenric gets the truth out about Ameridan without being assassinated or beheaded. Academics have to stand up for truths, it is part of our job (I am a grad student) and to face potential beheading for that...well, let's hope that does not happen)

[LightningPoodle]

Doubt the idea of an Inquisition was even thought up then.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Doubt the idea of an Inquisition was even thought up then.

 

True, but you would think that name would be known by Elves or by those who know history everywhere. By name I mean the First Inquisitor. 

[KaiserShep]

You can always pass this off as being one of those bits of history that stayed suppressed.

[themageguy]

It would seem the chantry changed the histories to suit their own agenda

I found it.interesting that he worshipped both the maker and the creators.

Also, if you bring Cassandra along you get some nice dialogue there too.

Awesome that a mage also hunted demons and maleficar. Kinda reminds me of fairytail

[stop_him]

The Chantry has more in common with Cerberus everyday.

[Uccio]

So the first Inquisitor is an Andrastian Elf ? 

 

I am pleasantly surprised.I wonder why no one has mentioned this before though. I mean in Origins, Garahel was known and since Elven heroes are not very common in Thedas, you would have thought that they would have mentioned this guy's name since he led the first Inquisition.

 

Another traitor to his race. 

[ComedicSociopathy]

Another traitor to his race. 

 

Actually, he worshiped both the Maker and the Creators. 

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Another traitor to his race. 

 

He wasn't. He was what you would call a true moderate or a neutral. He worshiped deities from both human and elven faiths. He was a mage that hunted demons and abominations.

 

For all intentions and purposes, he seemed like an outstanding and remarkable individual who did what he did because it was the sensible thing to do, just like Garahel. He did not do it because of elven agenda or human agenda or anything. He did what he did because that was the best he could do. 

 

If anything this DLC reveals that Chantry, just like everyone else in Thedas, twists history to suit their purposes. In history in real life, this form of history writing is known as national historiography.

 

National historiography is a form of history writing that is written by and promulgated by nationalists and governments to, supposedly foster nationalism, national identity, to help with national building. To do this, historians that are either nationalists or are commissioned by nationalists or the state craft a history that is favorable towards the idea of that particular nation. This results in scrapping of or whitewashing of facts that might cause people to think and question things. 

 

It is essentially the history we learn in school textbooks or in government endorsed documentaries.

 

Personally, I think that is a load of bollocks and prefer academic history and/or total history since I am not one who is very patriotic or tribalistic. Heck, I have even gone on record in the university I am studying to say that national historiography is just a fancy term for censored history. 

 

In Thedas, the Chantry did this to foster an Andrastian identity and to help build the Andrastian faith as well as promulgate it. In the process, they had to scrap things that would make faith building too complicated or too open to questions and queries. 

 

So in the end I suppose this DLCs prime purpose is to dispel the Andrastian censored history. 

[Addai]

Apparently you can't be an elven hero without being Andrastian. The elves who believe in their own gods are evil and/or get slaughtered like cattle.

[jlb524]

The Chantry lies?

 

nooooo way

[JadeDragon]

I thought he was the last inquisitor of the old inquisition not the 1st

[Heimdall]

I thought he was the last inquisitor of the old inquisition not the 1st

Correct, Ameriden is the last Inquisitor of the first Inquisition.

I believe it's mentioned in the DLC that his race and identity were obscured in the wake of the Exalted March on the Dales. At the time, the Chantry in general was trying to remove elves from its own history (Dropping the Canticle of Shartan for example)

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Correct, Ameriden is the last Inquisitor of the first Inquisition.

I believe it's mentioned in the DLC that his race and identity were obscured in the wake of the Exalted March on the Dales. At the time, the Chantry in general was trying to remove elves from its own history (Dropping the Canticle of Shartan for example)

 

Yes, he is the last Inquisitor of the first Inquisition. 

 

So the shite that happened in the Dales, the Second Blight...all of it is primarily due to one dragon...with the spirit of an Avvar god in it...

 

Don't get me wrong, the Elves did not help Orlais in the Second Blight even though they were supposed to and there was that incident where the Elves attacked first...Because they believed Drakon and his people to just be like the Imperium...

 

Still, if not for this damn Dragon, history would have turned out very differently...

 

Ameridan reminds me of Avatar Roku. Born from humble beginnings, became someone powerful, close friend with a monarch and after he died all hell broke loose. Okay Drakon is not like Sozin but still...

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

The Chantry has more in common with Cerberus everyday.

 

The Chantry lies?

 

nooooo way

Wow! The Orlesian Chantry lies?!

 

Shocking news! I totally did not expect that, lol. 

[Addai]

Yes, he is the last Inquisitor of the first Inquisition. 

 

So the shite that happened in the Dales, the Second Blight...all of it is primarily due to one dragon...with the spirit of an Avvar god in it...

 

Don't get me wrong, the Elves did not help Orlais in the Second Blight even though they were supposed to and there was that incident where the Elves attacked first...Because they believed Drakon and his people to just be like the Imperium...

 

Still, if not for this damn Dragon, history would have turned out very differently...

 

Ameridan reminds me of Avatar Roku. Born from humble beginnings, became someone powerful, close friend with a monarch and after he died all hell broke loose. Okay Drakon is not like Sozin but still...

To me that's kind of cheesy. It makes this Inquisitor as much a Mary Sue as ours, without him needing to live up to player character expectations.

[jlb524]

Actually, he worshiped both the Maker and the Creators.

but that's not possible!

or Sera lied to me

[Uccio]

Yes, he is the last Inquisitor of the first Inquisition. 

 

So the shite that happened in the Dales, the Second Blight...all of it is primarily due to one dragon...with the spirit of an Avvar god in it...

 

Don't get me wrong, the Elves did not help Orlais in the Second Blight even though they were supposed to and there was that incident where the Elves attacked first...Because they believed Drakon and his people to just be like the Imperium...

 

Still, if not for this damn Dragon, history would have turned out very differently...

 

Ameridan reminds me of Avatar Roku. Born from humble beginnings, became someone powerful, close friend with a monarch and after he died all hell broke loose. Okay Drakon is not like Sozin but still...

 

Nah, still a traitor. Siding with shemlen and worshipping their god. Big nono.   (Almost feel guilty of dropping this again since your previous post was rather well made for the defence of the character, almost  )

 

And what avvar god? Are they starting up blights now? Did the original lore even recognize such living god things in other religions than the Imperium´s dragon faith. Or is it just another made up deity to bring dragon gods killable for the player in some form in this dlc.

 

Ignoring that it feels like another evil "god" among the purity of the andrastian faith. And Orlesians are a evil empire, people who hunt elves for sport and keep rape rights are definitely not nice.

[Wulfram]

 

And what avvar god? Did the original lore even recognize such live things. Which deities belonged to this pantheon of no one has ever heard of before?

 

The avvars are mentioned in the DA:O codex at least.  In fact, I believe they at one point planned to have an Avvar Origin

[Uccio]

 

The avvars are mentioned in the DA:O codex at least.  In fact, I believe they at one point planned to have an Avvar Origin

 

Yes, I edited it since I recalled reading about them too after I posted that. But the thing I was after, were there actually dragon gods among the avvar originally? If not, what dragon gods are these now? Or is this just a dlc thing,

[Hellion Rex]

Yes, I edited it since I recalled reading about the too after I posted that. But the thing I was after, were there actually dragon gods among the avvar originally? If not, what dragon gods are these now? Or is this just a dlc thing,

No no. The Avvar never worshipped dragons specifically. However, the Avvar did summon one of their gods to possess a dragon in the past, which is what you face in the DLC.

[wright1978]

Actually, he worshiped both the Maker and the Creators. 

 

How does that work, did he believe the Elven pantheon were lesser servants of the maker or place the elven pantheon as equals of the maker.

Either way he seems to have been extremely heretical and i'm not surprised his name got erased from history by both sides.

[Uccio]

No no. The Avvar never worshipped dragons specifically. However, the Avvar did summon one of their gods to possess a dragon in the past, which is what you face in the DLC.

 

It makes some sense then, has there been anything written in the codex about other active deities besides the Imperium dragon gods? I might be wrong but I don´t recall such things. 

[Fiery Phoenix]

The Chantry lies?

 

nooooo way

The Maker says lying is a sin.

 

The Chantry never lies. Ever.

[Heimdall]

It makes some sense then, has there been anything written in the codex about other active deities besides the Imperium dragon gods? I might be wrong but I don´t recall such things.

The Avvar deities have been mentioned in codex entries before. This one in particular we already know. Hakkon Wintersbreath is the God of War and Winter, and the son of Korth the Mountain Father.