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[Colonelkillabee]

Nothing besides I have no interest in the absent father figure god, the only one, in my fantasy games. 

 

Neither do I, even if I'm Christian/Agnostic, but only because it would be kind of boring when there's potential for something much more interesting.

 

Wanting someone else's god to be something else because the elve's may or may not be though is kind of petty...
 

edit: Either way, you're out of luck since the devs mentioned they wouldn't be revealing the truth of the Maker's existence.

Modifié par Colonelkillabee, 26 mars 2015 - 12:58 .

[Uccio]

Neither do I, even if I'm Christian/Agnostic, but only because it would be kind of boring when there's potential for something much more interesting.

 

Wanting someone else's god to be something else because the elve's may or may not be though is kind of petty...
 

edit: Either way, you're out of luck since the devs mentioned they wouldn't be revealing the truth of the Maker's existence.

 

Maybe, but I´d rather take a multitude of gods than just one. Or none, for that matter.

[Colonelkillabee]

Maybe, but I´d rather take a multitude of gods than just one. Or none, for that matter.

God is a subjective term. Anyone that says the elven gods aren't gods because their nature may be aligned to demons some is close minded.

[Jaison1986]

God is a subjective term. Anyone that says the elven gods aren't gods because their nature may be aligned to demons some is close minded.

 

Well, God is an term usually meant for an being that reached omnipotence. Wich the Elven and Avvar gods lack. Elven gods can be killed, and Avvar gods can be destroyed.

[Colonelkillabee]

Well, God is an term usually meant for an being that reached omnipotence. Wich the Elven and Avvar gods lack. Elven gods can be killed, and Avvar gods can be destroyed.

Not at all actually. This isn't true for many many religions, the most obvious comparisons being the Greek Gods and the Pagan Gods.

[Red of Rivia]

Embrace the Qun and be happy. The Cake is a lie.

[ComedicSociopathy]

Well, God is an term usually meant for an being that reached omnipotence. Wich the Elven and Avvar gods lack. Elven gods can be killed, and Avvar gods can be destroyed.

 

Not necessarily. Zeus and Thor were gods even through they lacked omnipotence and were constantly getting tricked or overpowered in their myths. Being a god has more to do with being worshiped and in some way different or above mortals then having flat out omnipotence. Unless of course your talking about "God", in which case omnipotence may be a prerequisite for a being to deserve the term. 

[MoonDrummer]

Embrace the Stone and be happy. The Cake is a lie.

fixed.

[Heimdall]

Not necessarily. Zeus and Thor were gods even through they lacked omnipotence and were constantly getting tricked or overpowered in their myths. Being a god has more to do with being worshiped and in some way different or above mortals then having flat out omnipotence. Unless of course your talking about "God", in which case omnipotence may be a prerequisite for a being to deserve the term.

Yeah, Thor and the rest of the gods actually die in Norse mythology.

[The Baconer]

So wait, at what point did the Seekers emerge as a separate organization from the Inquisition?

[Heimdall]

So wait, at what point did the Seekers emerge as a separate organization from the Inquisition?

It sounds like they were an order within the Inquisition first, referring to those that had their particular abilities. Though it sounds like proto-Templars (Those that used lyrium) were also part of it. It was only after the Nevarran Accord that the Inquisition dissolved into two distinct orders.

[Sifr]

So wait, at what point did the Seekers emerge as a separate organization from the Inquisition?

 

From what Ameridan implies, the Seekers were originally a division of the Inquisition, who took on the role of Internal Affairs after it was disbanded.

 

His memories showing that one of his companions was all for taking Lyrium to fight demons, implies that the Templars rose from those in the Inquisition who wanted to have similar powers to the Seekers, without undergoing through the arduous training and semi-possession ritual, that according to Cassandra doesn't always work even after all that?

 

We learned in DA2 that Templars have a night of fasting and religious contemplation before taking vows and lyrium for the first time, which when you compare to how Cassandra mentions doing a similar fast and prayer for an entire year, seems like the ritual was probably taken from the Seekers but scaled down?

 

All in all, it makes Templars seem like they were formed from those who wanted to fast-track becoming a Seeker and took shortcuts to get there? And with how the Rite of Tranquility was later abused and forced on mages, one can't say that Templars aren't fond of taking the easy options?

[Archdemon_Urthemiel]

From what Ameridan implies, the Seekers were originally a division of the Inquisition, who took on the role of Internal Affairs after it was disbanded.

His memories showing that one of his companions was all for taking Lyrium to fight demons, implies that the Templars rose from those in the Inquisition who wanted to have similar powers to the Seekers, without undergoing through the arduous training and semi-possession ritual, that according to Cassandra doesn't always work even after all that?

We learned in DA2 that Templars have a night of fasting and religious contemplation before taking vows and lyrium for the first time, which when you compare to how Cassandra mentions doing a similar fast and prayer for an entire year, seems like the ritual was probably taken from the Seekers but scaled down?

All in all, it makes Templars seem like they were formed from those who wanted to fast-track becoming a Seeker and took shortcuts to get there? And with how the Rite of Tranquility was later abused and forced on mages, one can't say that Templars aren't fond of taking the easy options?

Well that certainly doesn't make the Templars look good

[helpthisguyplease]

Yeah, Thor and the rest of the gods actually die in Norse mythology.

Yeah norse gods are weak but greek are not I do not even think there is a greek god that died.

[Master Warder Z_]

Yeah, Thor and the rest of the gods actually die in Norse mythology.

It's going to be a heck of a party supposedly.

[Master Warder Z_]

one can't say that Templars aren't fond of taking the easy options?

Did you just honestly imply being a Templar is a easy choice? You train for a decade or more, you connect yourself to primial elements that will slowly kill you and then you are set to watch the very people that mandate your existence every day.

The reason you are needed.

You call that easy?

God civilians sometimes.

[Xilizhra]

Did you just honestly imply being a Templar is a easy choice? You train for a decade or more, you connect yourself to primial elements that will slowly kill you and then you are set to watch the very people that mandate your existence every day.

The reason you are needed.

You call that easy?

God civilians sometimes.

Templars were more fond of taking the easy choices for other people, although just becoming a drug addict is indeed a far easier path than what Seeker training seems to be.

[In Exile]

And Drakon's expansionism had nothing to do with it, I'm sure. The Orlesians would never take over a neighboring country simply to expand their power. *whistles*

But I'm sure if that one guy in elven power armor had been there, they'd all be friends. That's the point we're supposed to take away from the DLC, right?

As to there not being a Dalish hero because they're insular and have their own beliefs, that just shows lack of imagination and illustrates my problem with this character nicely.

It certainly sounds like the issue between Orlais and the Dales came down to a lot of historical mistrust and ancient grievances as much as it did regional politics. Drakon could have expanded in other directions, as could Orlais.

As to the Dalish, what would an imaginative take on a Dalish hero to the rest of Thedas be? Even in DA the PC has an extrinsic excuse to be involved in a plot he or she otherwise wouldn't.

[Xilizhra]

It certainly sounds like the issue between Orlais and the Dales came down to a lot of historical mistrust and ancient grievances as much as it did regional politics. Drakon could have expanded in other directions, as could Orlais.

As to the Dalish, what would an imaginative take on a Dalish hero to the rest of Thedas be? Even in DA the PC has an extrinsic excuse to be involved in a plot he or she otherwise wouldn't.

I'm fairly sure that fighting a Blight is something that doesn't conflict with any Dalish sensibilities.

[Master Warder Z_]

Templars were more fond of taking the easy choices for other people, although just becoming a drug addict is indeed a far easier path than what Seeker training seems to be.

Nonsensical tripe.

[Xilizhra]

Nonsensical tripe.

Most people wash out of Seeker training, according to Cassandra. How many have ever been seen to do so from templar training?

[In Exile]

I'm fairly sure that fighting a Blight is something that doesn't conflict with any Dalish sensibilities.

But we do hear a story about exactly this in DA2. From the Dalish, who would be the only ones to remember it.

[Delphine]

I heard you guys love Ameridan (and so do I, want to see more of him & Telana), so here, have some pretty Ameridan gifs.

 

Source: http://miyku.tumblr....st/114681605922

[myahele]

Makes me wonder if the elvhen "gods" were merely elves who merged with spirits who offerred the elves a better benefits than the forgotten ones.

 

An entry for Geldaurran (forgotten one) pretty much says they aren't really gods, that their power isn't truly thiers and that s/he will get powerful enough using his/her own strength to take them down

[Colonelkillabee]

Makes me wonder if the elvhen "gods" were merely elves who merged with spirits who offerred the elves a better benefits than the forgotten ones.

 

An entry for Geldaurran (forgotten one) pretty much says they aren't really gods, that their power isn't truly thiers and that s/he will get powerful enough using his/her own strength to take them down

That's what I've been thinking personally.