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[Galactus]

Crikey all mighty, strewth. Its a bloody outrage it is! toss me a fosters mate! Stone the flamin' crows! (Bioware)

[BlacJAC74]

Never mind Australia, it's priced £12 here [UK].  Was about to purchase it this morning, then saw the price.    There's no way I'm paying £12 for a piece of DLC.  Slightly more and we're talking full expansion prices.  No doubt someone will come along soon with their pizzanomics to tell me why £12 is a bargain in the grand scheme of things.

 

Or maybe I'm being too cynical and this dlc does indeed contain 1/3 of the content the full game does.  If so, I'll stand corrected.

[Eelectrica]

Never mind Australia, it's priced £12 here [UK]. Was about to purchase it this morning, then saw the price. There's no way I'm paying £12 for a piece of DLC. Slightly more and we're talking full expansion prices. No doubt someone will come along soon with their pizzanomics to tell me why £12 is a bargain in the grand scheme of things.

Or maybe I'm being too cynical and this dlc does indeed contain 1/3 of the content the full game does. If so, I'll stand corrected.

it's one large area. I'd say comparable to the Hinterlands in size. It's more of the same. I haven't encountered any fetch quests. They're more pac man style quests - follow the path and plant or collect the whatevers.
More fade rifts to close. One large village which even has more than one person to speak too. Might even be around 10 people to talk to in the whole area.
3 Astrariums, 1 of which was a bit of a challenge. The other 2 were a little easy. More shards too collect. Yay.

in short wait for a sale if you can, it's not really essential but it is a fairly solid DLC. Visuals are outstanding.

[frankf43]

Never mind Australia, it's priced £12 here [UK].  Was about to purchase it this morning, then saw the price.    There's no way I'm paying £12 for a piece of DLC.  Slightly more and we're talking full expansion prices.  No doubt someone will come along soon with their pizzanomics to tell me why £12 is a bargain in the grand scheme of things.

 

Or maybe I'm being too cynical and this dlc does indeed contain 1/3 of the content the full game does.  If so, I'll stand corrected.

 

It all depends on perspective, anything is worth what somebody is willing to pay for it. I wanted the dlc and was willing to pay the  £10.79p I had to pay on Xbox, I'm half way through it and enjoying it so far, it's packed with lore and history that is very interesting so I'm taking my time to ask every question I can to discover about all the people that the dlc covers.

[Farangbaa]

Never mind Australia, it's priced £12 here [UK].  Was about to purchase it this morning, then saw the price.    There's no way I'm paying £12 for a piece of DLC.  Slightly more and we're talking full expansion prices.  No doubt someone will come along soon with their pizzanomics to tell me why £12 is a bargain in the grand scheme of things.
 
Or maybe I'm being too cynical and this dlc does indeed contain 1/3 of the content the full game does.  If so, I'll stand corrected.

Comparing it to the full game price and size is a little ludicrious.

That means you'd gladly pay up this amount of money for a 1 hour DLC of 1886 The Order. But 6-9 hours for a DLC of DA:I is then suddenly way too little.

Or look at it like this: the base game probably gave you way too much for it's price. (and The Order way too little)
Unless, of course, you hated the game. But then you wouldn't want the DLC at all.

Hell, this kind of reasoning would make any game that offered you less than 100 hours of gameplay on the first run 'overprized'.

[NRieh]

Same here, Russian region ( I assume same goes for Poland since we seem to share the zone restrictions).

599rub on xbox, 799rub on Origin. 1799 - the current full price for a standard DAI, 1999 - deluxe, preorder price was like 1300\1500rub (normal\deluxe).  That's BS.

[Jawzzus]

 

 

 

I'm as much of a bioware fanboy as the next guy, Playing everything starting from Kotor to Jade Empire, I even played SWTOR for way too long. I've bought almost every piece of DLC for every game Bioware have ever sold with the exception of a 2-3 Dragon Age one's that were really poorly reviewed. So I'm not a hater...

 

However, I gotta disagree Jawzzus. This guy wasnt being unreasonable. There is toxic behavior that we as a community should condemn, such as know-all's telling the dev's why their game sucks while making 100 erroneous statements in the process.... and on the other end of the spectrum there is white knighting. What you did is a lot closer to white knighting than he was to being toxic.

 

He made a rhetoric about complaints in this forum not being responded to much by bioware. This is an objectively true statement, cynical as it is. In fairness, I think if you really have a problem, you should use another more formal channel like EA's livechat/ticket support rather than Bioware's community forum, but his comment was fair.

 

This issue we have is not exactly saving people from cancer or the game being broken and unplayable. We are talking about $5 dollars per sale that is making us currently feel ill towards Bioware and its publisher. This is the right forum for this discussion, and making an assertion that it will probably result in nothing, or telling people to vote with their wallets, are in my opinion both fair points.

 

I honestly feel like your comment was directed at the whole community and not this guy. Are you sure you are not projecting other (actual), toxic comments you have read and then responding to this guy without actually reading what he said? What specific problem do you actually have with what he said anyway? 

 

 

Please point out where I called them toxic?  They made a comment about no Devs coming to BSN for awhile, I said it could very well be because of all the toxicity that gets thrown at them, and that if I was a dev I wouldn't come here either.  NO WHERE did I call them out as being Toxic, thanks.

 

 

On topic:  Since it's not just AU that has the price increase, are you all sure it's BioWare/EA's doing?  It might be the video game regulation/pricing boards of other countries upping the prices themselves, and EA has to agree to it if they want their stuff released there. 

[BlacJAC74]

Comparing it to the full game price and size is a little ludicrious.

That means you'd gladly pay up this amount of money for a 1 hour DLC of 1886 The Order. But 6-9 hours for a DLC of DA:I is then suddenly way too little.

Or look at it like this: the base game probably gave you way too much for it's price. (and The Order way too little)
Unless, of course, you hated the game. But then you wouldn't want the DLC at all.

Hell, this kind of reasoning would make any game that offered you less than 100 hours of gameplay on the first run 'overprized'.

 

 

Not really ludicrous.  Wouldn't pay £12 for any dlc unless it was a boot in the arse away from an expansion.  Most season passes go for £20 and people have the cheek to ****** about them (quite rightly in some instances), yet most offer more value for money when all the dlc has been released.  Wondered why there wasn't a season pass with this game when EA love those things nowadays.  Makes sense now because lets say there's gonna be 3 dlc's, would you pay close to the full game again if they released it when they released the full game?

[Morroian]

On topic:  Since it's not just AU that has the price increase, are you all sure it's BioWare/EA's doing?  It might be the video game regulation/pricing boards of other countries upping the prices themselves, and EA has to agree to it if they want their stuff released there. 

 

Its the origin price so of course its EA, I wouldnt blame BW as in the devs though or even the Heads of BW its purely an EA thing. However it does reflect badly on BW.

[Jawzzus]

Its the origin price so of course its EA, I wouldnt blame BW as in the devs though or even the Heads of BW its purely an EA thing. However it does reflect badly on BW.

 

I always thought that game distributors didn't have full control over the pricing, if that's incorrect then ya it sucks that they are gouging international customers on Origin.  I wonder if that means Sony/Microsoft have pricing control on their consoles since Xbox 1 isn't being marked up

[katling73]

I was bored on the tram this morning on the way to work so I tweeted both EA and one of the Bioware people (with the comment that I knew it wasn't his job but could he pass it on to the appropriate people) about the pricing. Haven't heard anything back but then I wasn't really expecting to. Still, sometimes you have to gently and politely poke at people.

[Absafraginlootly]

Please point out where I called them toxic?  They made a comment about no Devs coming to BSN for awhile, I said it could very well be because of all the toxicity that gets thrown at them, and that if I was a dev I wouldn't come here either.  NO WHERE did I call them out as being Toxic, thanks.

 

 

On topic:  Since it's not just AU that has the price increase, are you all sure it's BioWare/EA's doing?  It might be the video game regulation/pricing boards of other countries upping the prices themselves, and EA has to agree to it if they want their stuff released there. 

It's not something our country is forcing on them, we are overpriced on near all tech related items. We had a federal parliamentary committee look into this and question companies such as apple to determine a justifiable reason for this - there was none.

 

http://www.abc.net.a...-prices/4587900

 

http://www.gamesindu...e-games-pricing

[Morroian]

I always thought that game distributors didn't have full control over the pricing, if that's incorrect then ya it sucks that they are gouging international customers on Origin.  I wonder if that means Sony/Microsoft have pricing control on their consoles since Xbox 1 isn't being marked up

 

EA is the distributor via origin.

[Firky]

Crikey all mighty, strewth. Its a bloody outrage it is! toss me a fosters mate! Stone the flamin' crows! (Bioware)

Someone has been watching too much neighbours.

Also, I've never seen anyone ever drink a fosters.

The worst thing about this whole thing is it made me look at the sims 4 pricing. Wow.

But. I did preorder the Witcher 3 when it was accidentally incorrectly priced on steam. It rose $20 the following day.

[lucky5hot]

Keep in mind, the issue about Aussies paying more for games is just a reality of Aussie gaming, and its not the main purpose of this thread.

 

From the fact that our currency is .78c to the dollar at the moment (20% rise), to the additional 10% gst (further 10% on top), we are going to be paying more for games here. If a little jaded when we do because it is often hiked further still.

 

The main issue/contention of this thread is about why its $5 dollars more on PC than it is XBONE. Of the overall price, this represented an additional 20% or so hike in the price arbitrarily. With everything we already have to deal with, I just felt that was a straw too far.

 

I've had several reports that it will be looked into, its hopeful but not 100% yet that perhaps they will normalize pricing for both platforms, and permanently for the future. Its not only the Aussie region, I can see a 200 Ruble ($3.50 USD equivalent), pricing difference being reported between gaming platforms for the Russian region too since i made this thread. Lets just make a commitment to be fair here right?

[Morroian]

Keep in mind, the issue about Aussies paying more for games is just a reality of Aussie gaming, and its not the main purpose of this thread.

 

From the fact that our currency is .78c to the dollar at the moment (20% rise), to the additional 10% gst (further 10% on top), we are going to be paying more for games here. If a little jaded when we do because it is often hiked further still.

 

Every country has a consumption tax Australia's is probably the lowest in the western world and it doesn't apply to o/s software purchases as our ox based retailers constantly tell us. If you take the $15 and apply the current exchange rate it should be no more than $20, so the $25 is price gouging regardless of the XBone price which makes the situation worse.

[katling73]

To be honest, discussions of the Australia tax aside, if they priced it at $20, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. That's what I expected it to be given the exchange rate when I opened up Origin the other day and obviously that's what it is in the XBone store. Give me parity to what other Aussies are paying and I'm happy. Don't gouge me. I get cranky when I'm gouged.

(And seriously, ipad? You'll spell Xbone correctly and refuse to autocorrect Australia? What is wrong with you?)

[Absafraginlootly]

To be honest, discussions of the Australia tax aside, if they priced it at $20, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. That's what I expected it to be given the exchange rate when I opened up Origin the other day and obviously that's what it is in the XBone store. Give me parity to what other Aussies are paying and I'm happy. Don't gouge me. I get cranky when I'm gouged.

(And seriously, ipad? You'll spell Xbone correctly and refuse to autocorrect Australia? What is wrong with you?)

$20 dollars is also what I was expecting and would have been prepared to pay. It's a little higher than the conversion rate but given that conversion changes slightly everyday and they have to select a set price I would've been fine with it.

 

You'd think that if they can give a reasonable price on xbox then they should be able to do it on pc - I wonder whether ps4 players are going to be similarly gouged, on top of having to wait.  

[DragonAgeLegend]

That's weird, I didn't think anything of it and just bought it. Will they give me a refund if they slash the price to $19.99? And yes I'm from AUS. 

[Delphine]

I heard that it's 14,90€ in Origin so 16,40 dollars here in Finland for PC. Not too much over US price, though it would be nice that people wouldn't need to pay more than US players. I don't know what's it on XBONE.

 

We Europeans always get screwed in the pricing process. 14.99€ is more expensive than 14.99$, but hey, let's pretend we're not clever enough to know it.

It's the same with Steam games, and it seriously exhausts me. I certainly don't think Europeans have a better economy/standard of living than the US, so why make us pay at a higher price than them?

[NextGenCowboy]

To be fair, the euro and the U.S. dollar are almost even in value. Yes, you end up overpaying what's equal to around 7-10% give or take, but it's not really comparable to the situation in the AUS regions. Where they pay, depending on the game, between $90-$115 AUS. At the lowest end of the spectrum they pay what someone with euros pays, if we take conversion into account (and they just keep the U.S. price for euros), on the higher side they pay almost $100 U.S. for their games (that's around 90 euros, give or take). 

 

The thread's about why there's a difference in price between the systems though, not how much each region pays. Why is it more expensive on the PC than it is on the Xbox? I honestly can't say, is this common practice? I assumed prices were standard, but maybe each market sets its own price, and this is just the first time there's been a difference. Still, it's messed up.

[zorb69]

To be fair, the euro and the U.S. dollar are almost even in value. Yes, you end up overpaying what's equal to around 7-10% give or take, but it's not really comparable to the situation in the AUS regions. Where they pay, depending on the game, between $90-$115 AUS. At the lowest end of the spectrum they pay what someone with euros pays, if we take conversion into account (and they just keep the U.S. price for euros), on the higher side they pay almost $100 U.S. for their games (that's around 90 euros, give or take). 

 

The thread's about why there's a difference in price between the systems though, not how much each region pays. Why is it more expensive on the PC than it is on the Xbox? I honestly can't say, is this common practice? I assumed prices were standard, but maybe each market sets its own price, and this is just the first time there's been a difference. Still, it's messed up.

 

Generally there is a difference in price that favours the PC for full games ($10 - $30 cheaper for PC over the consoles). This is the first time I've seen it go the other way.

[katling73]

Hey, guys. Guys! GUYS!!!!

 

Go check Origin! I just logged in and it was $20!!!

[ElofValant]

Hey, guys. Guys! GUYS!!!!

 

Go check Origin! I just logged in and it was $20!!!

 

Verified - it is indeed showing up as $20 Au in Origin. So they have at least made the platforms equal, and with the currency conversion as it stands... it's not a terrible price gouge now ($15 US is roughly $18.50 Au).

 

So thank you for that Bioware/EA.

[katling73]

Yeah. AU$20 I'll wear even though it's a little more than the exchange rate, partly because I know they'll always take it up to the next most logical pay point and also because someone somewhere is going to be paying an bank's exchange fee from AU$ to US$ and I figure at least some of the extra will account for that.

 

I also thanked Conal Pierse as that's who I tweeted about the issue even though I figured it wasn't really his department. But he said he'd pass on my complaint and obviously they've been getting plenty from us Aussies.