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[chidingewe8036]

I thought The Citadel was destroyed. Can someone explain this?

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[KaiserShep]

I thought The Citadel was destroyed. Can someone explain this?

 

The Citadel is only partially destroyed. In the high EMS slide, you can see that parts of the Citadel still has power and a lot of the buildings are still intact. It stands to reason that wherever Shepard is still has power too, since the mass effect bubble needs to be intact or else s/he would immediately be exposed to open space.

[LightningPoodle]

I'm inclined to think back on Earth, though now that I think about it, if he had fallen from the Citadel, he would be a smear on the concrete.

[KaiserShep]

I'm inclined to think back on Earth, though now that I think about it, if he had fallen from the Citadel, he would be a smear on the concrete.

 

Not when those Wyle E. Coyote physics kicks in! Shepard just has to hold up a cartoon sign before falling to seal the deal.

[chidingewe8036]

just doesn't make sense

[JasonShepard]

The Commander is on a collapsed portion of the Citadel that somehow still has power/an atmosphere. It's the only answer that makes sense.

 

Falling back down to Earth doesn't make sense on numerous counts - surviving re-entry being the big one. (You can argue that Shepard has maybe already survived re-entry once, kinda, at the start of ME2. Except they didn't survive that either, and back then the Commander actually had a functioning armour system...)

 

The alternative is that Shepard somehow made it back to the conduit and beamed back down to Earth before collapsing into a nearby pile of rubble... but that's a lot to ask for in the space of the few seconds between starting "Destroy" and the Citadel exploding. Especially when Shepard doesn't know how they got to the choice chamber - the Commander was unconscious when the Catalyst brought them up there.

 

Yes, I know the breath scene rubble looks like concrete - but who's to say that they don't have concrete on the Citadel?

[DirtySHISN0]

Sovngarde or a fragment of the citadel that drifts off into space until cortana wakes shep up.

[dorktainian]

x marks the spot 

[Grieving Natashina]

Take this as you will, but TV tropes states that Shepard is in the rubble in London for the breath scene.  TV tropes can be a rumor mill, so I'm not sure.  <shrug>

[Vazgen]

Take this as you will, but TV tropes states that Shepard is in the rubble in London for the breath scene.  TV tropes can be a rumor mill, so I'm not sure.  <shrug>

Dev tweets confirmed that Shepard is on the Citadel

[chidingewe8036]

If you have the Collector's Edition look on the back of the case that has the art book inside, Shepard is holding someone, looks like Shepard is pulling someone else's arm and there is rubble around. How can Bioware explain this piece of art I wonder........interesting.

[JasonShepard]

If you have the Collector's Edition look on the back of the case that has the art book inside, Shepard is holding someone, looks like Shepard is pulling someone else's arm and there is rubble around. How can Bioware explain this piece of art I wonder........interesting.

 

It's a picture that isn't supposed to directly connect to the plot? There's also promotional artwork of Shepard standing in Vancouver during the initial invasion, looking up into the sky and holding a sniper rifle... when you don't get a sniper rifle until Mars at the earliest.

 

In the case of the Shepard joined-hands image - it's symbolic of Shepard representing hope and saving lives, set against the background of the Reaper invasion. Which is pretty much a summary of ME3's main theme. It doesn't need to mean anything more than that.

[ZerebusPrime]

Whooshing sound of wind in the audio.

Obscured form of a crashed Mako in the background.

Color pallet from London beam run.

 

Yeah, he's on the Citadel! 

[Ithurael]

Shep is on the Citadel.

 

Bioware confirms it.

 

And that is where he/she will be until the ending of the universe...or until Bioware retcons it with another statement or a game to show otherwise

https://twitter.com/...187404377001987

[JasonShepard]

Whooshing sound of wind in the audio.

Obscured form of a crashed Mako in the background.

Color pallet from London beam run.

 

Yeah, he's on the Citadel! 

 

Here's a youtube link.

 

With volume driven up to full, I hear metallic noises, some echoes, maybe a light wind. Considering that the Citadel just exploded, none of those are particularly surprising to hear on the Citadel.

 

A Mako? Personally I don't see it.

 

Colour pallet? It's dark. So what?

 

Based purely on the scene, it could be anywhere. Heck, that scene could make sense on Palaven, in a cave on Tuchunka, or even on the asteroid that we visited while hunting for Leviathan. All we know is that it's dark, there's rubble, and there's an atmosphere.

 

Based on taking the endings at face value, it's the Citadel. Nothing else makes sense, unless you want Shepard to magically teleport and/or survive re-entry in a busted suit.

 

London makes sense if you want to go full IT and discard everything after Harbinger shoots at you, but I discard IT for entirely different reasons (its portrayal of indoctrination is like nothing we've seen before).

 

I don't know of any other interpretation where London would make sense - because then you'd have to explain how Shepard got back to London from the Citadel.

[Valmar]

Dev's confirmed that he is, infact, on the citadel.

 

https://twitter.com/...187404377001987

 

 

Edit: This has been answered more times than I realized. Sorry for the repeat. Though its worth saying again, I suppose, to really drive it home. A surprising amount of people still think Shep's in London rubble.

[ZerebusPrime]

I am aware of the "official" tweet from Mr. Gamble.  Visually, however, it's vague enough that they could go either way with successive Mass Effect content if they so chose.  

 

Tweets are cheap.  ...I miss Emily Wong.

[Iakus]

and its not supposed to make sense like everything else in the ending 

 

so don't worry

Lots of speculations for everybody!!!

[Ithurael]

How could it go either way?

 

 

I am aware of the "official" tweet from Mr. Gamble.  Visually, however, it's vague enough that they could go either way with successive Mass Effect content if they so chose.  

 

Tweets are cheap.  ...I miss Emily Wong.

 

 

The original question was:

 

@GambleMike @BioEvilChris Simple question-Is Shepard laying in London or Citadel rubble post end breath scene? Jessica hasnt answered me yet

 

 

Was there another post end breath scene that happened before the post end breath scene? Wouldn't that be equivalent to a pre-end breath scene? Because there is only one post end breath scene that I know of and that was up for debate.

[themikefest]

Another question is where exactly on the Citadel is the breath scene?

[Ithurael]

Another question is where exactly on the Citadel is the breath scene?

 

Now THAT is the appropriate question!!!

[ZerebusPrime]

How could it go either way?

 

 

I thought that was self explanatory.  Ignore all tweet conversations, revisit the scene in a succeeding Mass Effect game.  The camera could be made to pan out to show Shepard actually laying in any number of places, or codex entries or dialogue can be made aiming towards the same effect.  I suppose you would call it a retcon.  I believe TVTropes would qualify it as Ascended Fridge Brilliance.

 

In any case, I don't think it really matters.  I don't trust what I see or hear in the ending, especially not with the Extended Cut material, yet I concede that it appears that Shepard is still moving.  Thus I will not hold Shepard to ending up in any one place with absolute certainty... not London and certainly not the exterior of the Citadel, because that last one is crazy. 

 

 

EDIT: Oh yeah.  Zombie Husk Emily Wong for Next Mass Effect Love Interest!!!!!

[Vazgen]

Another question is where exactly on the Citadel is the breath scene?

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