Bianca is pretty much a clusterfuck of things gone wrong. She's got Mary Sue traits, is responsible for handing Corypheus the red lyrium and gets away with it because she's just too darn awesome to be judged, she's rude no matter what you do and she fails to live up to the hype that they've been building around the character since DA2. Add the Varric relationship drama and you've pretty much got a character who's begging to be disliked.
So no, OP. You're not alone.
Bianca is pretty much a clusterfuck of things gone wrong. She's got Mary Sue traits, is responsible for handing Corypheus the red lyrium and gets away with it because she's just too darn awesome to be judged, she's rude no matter what you do and she fails to live up to the hype that they've been building around the character since DA2. Add the Varric relationship drama and you've pretty much got a character who's begging to be disliked.
So no, OP. You're not alone.
And Varric protects her If you do call Bianca on her mistake!
I initially liked Bianca just fine. I had fun with that quest, especially the shop talk about being an artificer (that almost made me squee because it was just the kind of specialization specific dialogue I'd hoped for). I eagerly defended her with Varric, partially because I was thinking he'd be happier if they parted on relatively good terms.
The eyeball comment just took the wind out of my sails, that's all. I'd just defended her, and while I get that the comment was meant to be her displaying her protectiveness of Varric, and was probably supposed to be cute, it seems like an odd thing to say to someone whose busy trying to save the world, barely knows Varric on a personal level, and whose been nothing but warm toward both of them. It dampened the fun of that part of the game for me.
I initially liked Bianca just fine. I had fun with that quest, especially the shop talk about being an artificer (that almost made me squee because it was just the kind of specialization specific dialogue I'd hoped for). I eagerly defended her with Varric, partially because I was thinking he'd be happier if they parted on relatively good terms.
The eyeball comment just took the wind out of my sails, that's all. I'd just defended her, and while I get that the comment was meant to be her displaying her protectiveness of Varric, and was probably supposed to be cute, it seems like an odd thing to say to someone whose busy trying to save the world, barely knows Varric on a personal level, and whose been nothing but warm toward both of them. It dampened the fun of that part of the game for me.
We don't know the whole story surrounding Varric and Bianca. We don't even know how long they've been seeing each other.
15 odd yearsWe don't know the whole story surrounding Varric and Bianca. We don't even know how long they've been seeing each other.
We don't know the whole story surrounding Varric and Bianca. We don't even know how long they've been seeing each other.
This may be true, but what does that have to do with my enjoyment of that scene? I'm not casting any judgement on their relationship, just on that specific line of dialogue and how I, personally, felt about it.
I saw no humor there but whatever. After the mess she caused if she topped it off by saying that line to my character I should have the option to toss her in one of those darkspawn pits. There isn't even a "Sit in Judgment" option. It's a prime example of how limited your actions are in DA:I that your character is forced to forgive the body count/conflict caused by her mistake in addition to her threatening you.
As the Warden once said in Awakening "I've killed people for less".
The eyeball comment just took the wind out of my sails, that's all. I'd just defended her, and while I get that the comment was meant to be her displaying her protectiveness of Varric, and was probably supposed to be cute, it seems like an odd thing to say to someone whose busy trying to save the world, barely knows Varric on a personal level, and whose been nothing but warm toward both of them. It dampened the fun of that part of the game for me.
Yeah, it's a really weird line. I totally get that they tried to do something similar to what Isabela/Leliana says if you romance Josie or Merrill but it doesn't work because Bianca is pretty much a complete stranger and the Inquisitor isn't trying to get into Varric's pants (at least not successfully). You're his boss, not his bff or lover. Why is she threatening his boss? Varric is volunteering to help the Inquisition, he's free to leave if he hates it. The worst thing you can do to Varric at that point is to use him as dragon bait.
I mean, any emotional damage is already done because Here Lies the Abyss is a prerequisite for Well, ****.
This may be true, but what does that have to do with my enjoyment of that scene? I'm not casting any judgement on their relationship, just on that specific line of dialogue and how I, personally, felt about it.
Yeah, a lot of people seem to throw hate on Bianca simply because of that one line, which is a shame because until then she's an awesome character who is thoroughly enjoyable to watch? I think that was just a bad line in how it was written and presented, which spoiled the scene for everyone?
I think that was intended to be a friendly mock-threat that you'd see between two people comfortable joking with each other, but failed because she'd not had enough interaction with the Inquisitor to allow for that level of familiarity, unlike the playful banter between her and Varric?
Give that line to Scout Harding for instance, no-one would likely have an issue because we've had enough time to know her properly and that line would probably fit with her sense of humour and how she's a adorable bundle of murder? But if she'd said something like that in our first conversation with her, we'd probably be a lot less fond of her character and think she's a bit psychotic? Especially after seeing that little smirk she does in the cutscene after icing that mage and templar?
Yeah, it's a really weird line. I totally get that they tried to do something similar to what Isabela/Leliana says if you romance Josie or Merrill but it doesn't work because Bianca is pretty much a complete stranger and the Inquisitor isn't trying to get into Varric's pants (at least not successfully). You're his boss, not his bff or lover. Why is she threatening his boss? Varric is volunteering to help the Inquisition, he's free to leave if he hates it. The worst thing you can do to Varric at that point is to use him as dragon bait.
I mean, any emotional damage is already done because Here Lies the Abyss is a prerequisite for Well, ****.
Well, now I can't stop thinking about how Varric would react to being used as dragon bait. 
Edit: More importantly, yes. It does seem like they were definitely trying to show a powerful expression of how deeply she cares about Varric, and I think they were expecting the fans to feel enough of a connection to her that we'd think it was funny, because she's Bianca and that such a big deal in and of itself that we were supposed to like her for that alone.
It just...backfired a little.
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I agree I really missed the murder knife in that mission
my "ruthless" Inquisitor is a joke compared to my Hawke and Warden
Nope, I like her
Wish she had a better character model though 
Her last words made me hate her completely. I always skip the last part of the cutscene.
Well, now I can't stop thinking about how Varric would react to being used as dragon bait.
I'm pretty indifferent to her really.
Yeah, a lot of people seem to throw hate on Bianca simply because of that one line, which is a shame because until then she's an awesome character who is thoroughly enjoyable to watch? I think that was just a bad line in how it was written and presented, which spoiled the scene for everyone?
I think that was intended to be a friendly mock-threat that you'd see between two people comfortable joking with each other, but failed because she'd not had enough interaction with the Inquisitor to allow for that level of familiarity, unlike the playful banter between her and Varric?
Give that line to Scout Harding for instance, no-one would likely have an issue because we've had enough time to know her properly and that line would probably fit with her sense of humour and how she's a adorable bundle of murder? But if she'd said something like that in our first conversation with her, we'd probably be a lot less fond of her character and think she's a bit psychotic? Especially after seeing that little smirk she does in the cutscene after icing that mage and templar?
Yes, I think it was a fumble on the writers' part because she does seem crazy for delivering that line to someone as influential, and crucial to the task of saving the world as the Inquisitor is. Especially if they not only forgave her mistake but defended her.
I know it might seem like some of us are just getting our hackles up about being threatened at all, albeit jokingly (probably) but I don't think that's the entirety of it for most people. It seems to me that any positive characterization she receives before that line is overshadowed by how bratty, foolish, and just plain out of place it seems. The fact that you have no option to react to it is part of why people accuse her of being over favored by the writers.
While my first impulse isn't to hold her accountable for making an honest mistake, I understand why a lot of people take issue with not having that option available to us. In the same breath, I also understand why the writers wouldn't want to tackle that mess of a plot derail, because then they'd have to write Varric's reaction, and that could get chaotic.
Yes, I think it was a fumble on the writers' part because she does seem crazy for delivering that line to someone as influential, and crucial to the task of saving the world as the Inquisitor is. Especially if they not only forgave her mistake but defended her.
I know it might seem like some of us are just getting our hackles up about being threatened at all, albeit jokingly (probably) but I don't think that's the entirety of it for most people. It seems to me that any positive characterization she receives before that line is overshadowed by how bratty, foolish, and just plain out of place it seems. The fact that you have no option to react to it is part of why people accuse her of being over favored by the writers.
While my first impulse isn't to hold her accountable for making an honest mistake, I understand why a lot of people take issue with not having that option available to us. In the same breath, I also understand why the writers wouldn't want to tackle that mess of a plot derail, because then they'd have to write Varric's reaction, and that could get chaotic.
I don't think she's overly-favoured as much as the writer's forgot that their own familiarity with her character was not something that the audience has, or thought since we've known of their relationship since DA2, we'd be comfortable enough with her character for that kind of line to seem natural?
Finding the right balance for any character and the right kind of voice can be a challenge and I think that's probably what happened, that they slightly fumbled her at the end? Although you have to give them some major props, as it was only really noticable because of how amazingly she was written before that? If she'd been so-so, we'd probably not be fixating on that awful last line of hers so much?
For me, part of my disdain for Bianca comes from the fact her engineering skills are a bit overhyped. I mean, she has apparently designed something so incredible, so revolutionary, that there's talk of her being made a surfacer Paragon, in direct defiance to the caste system and centuries of dwarven tradition... and we never find out what that is. Show, don't tell, Bioware. When did you forget that?
This may be true, but what does that have to do with my enjoyment of that scene? I'm not casting any judgement on their relationship, just on that specific line of dialogue and how I, personally, felt about it.
Personally at first I felt a little miffed when she threatened my Inquisitor, but eventually I realized it just shows how much she cares for Varric. She's willing to take on a psuedo-god (I was overpowered by the time I met Bianca.) If I let anything bad happen to Varric!
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