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#201
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All I know is that I wanted to slap her irons, and haul her before the Inquisition for judgment.  Make sure Varric had to watch, although not to punish the guy.  He needs to learn that some secrets need to be kept and not to tell someone everything.  

 

Like others have said, we get to pass judgement on others for much less.  I don't hate the character Bianca, but I know Plot Armor when I see it.   She's as guilty to me of the Rifts as Solas and Cory is.  It's irksome that the only reason that she's untouchable is due to the writers.  There is no good reason to let her go, and "she's Varric's twue luv," is a very poor excuse to let that slide.

 

I chuckled at that threat, but not in a funny "ha ha" kind of way.  It was more of a "Try it and I'll gladly remove your heart."  I wanted a chance to respond to that little remark, even if I got a Greatly Disapproves (-20 affection according to my save editor values) from Varric out of it.  I could make up the approval loss easily via quests and judgments, but this lady had the stupid bravery of threatening the Inquisitor after helping unleash Red Lyrium throughout Thedas.  It wasn't a little bit, or an accident like with what Hawke and Varric went through.  That area in the Hinterlands was pretty much the original main source for the Red Templars.  Nice job breaking it, jerkass.

 

I don't play evil characters, and I usually tend to be on the good spectrum, but for the second time in the series, I wanted the murderknife/sentence to death option.  

......O______O

 

You're scaring me, dear.


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Bianca hates Bianca because she is Bianca... :mellow:



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I saw no humor there but whatever. After the mess she caused if she topped it off by saying that line to my character I should have the option to toss her in one of those darkspawn pits. There isn't even a "Sit in Judgment" option. It's a prime example of how limited your actions are in DA:I that your character is forced to forgive the body count/conflict caused by her mistake in addition to her threatening you.


It's just such a ridiculous line. Even if she meant it seriously, I don't see how someone can take it seriously. It's like being threatened by that DAO inkeeper.
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I certainly don't like it that the writers made claims that a character is both the best smith ever and the best archer ever with nothing to back it up.


She invented Bianca and has a mechanism to mass produce it. That's evidently genius level given Thedas's own technology. I don't recall the archery bit though.

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It's amazing how the most mysterious character (because of Varric keeping it *hush hush* around her name) now became the most hated character.

 

Sometimes a mystery should remain as it always was; a mystery. 

That was bad writing, smh... very bad writing.


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She invented Bianca and has a mechanism to mass produce it. That's evidently genius level given Thedas's own technology. I don't recall the archery bit though.

 

The archery comment felt like a joke on Bianca's half

 

But who knows maybe she is a better archer than Varric since she uses an actual bow compared to Varric's crossbow



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......O______O

 

You're scaring me, dear.

You met me when I was posting a lot about the Mage v Templar debates.  You've seen the aggressive side of me before.  What's funny is that what I said was true: I don't hate Bianca.  However, I do want her to sit in judgment and receive punishment for her crimes.

 

This rant was nothing.  I had a rant last year after meeting Kai Leng for the first time that topped that one. 



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It's amazing how the most mysterious character (because of Varric keeping it *hush hush* around her name) now became the most hated character.

 

Sometimes a mystery should remain as it always was; a mystery. 

That was bad writing, smh... very bad writing.

I disagree. I hate mysteries that are never solved.

 

 

You met me when I was posting a lot about the Mage v Templar debates.  You've seen the aggressive side of me before.  What's funny is that what I said was true: I don't hate Bianca.  However, I do want her to sit in judgment and receive punishment for her crimes.

 

This rant was nothing.  I had a rant last year after meeting Kai Leng for the first time that topped that one. 

But she didn't commit any crimes. She talked to the one Grey Warden in history who's ever really been an ur-darkspawn in disguise.



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Yeah. The fact that she keeps trying to cover her ass and is a complete idiot during the quest doesn't help. She and Solas both screwed up and share the blame for how Cory was able to threaten the world. But at least Solas is fighting to stop Corypheus, unlike a certain lady dwarf. You know that super awesome crossbow you designed that you don't feel like sharing, Bianca? NOW IS THE PERFECT TIME TO GIVE THE DESIGN TO US SO THAT WE CAN CLEAN UP YOUR GODDAMN MESS. 

 

This. I was hoping I'd have the option to persuade her to give me a schematic or a similar replica before I knew about her mistake. The fact that I couldn't persuade her to do it as a way to atone frustrated me to no end. 



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I disagree, Bianca has more than just one "oopise" on her record.

 

She did commit a huge crime by opening the door in the mines, because she could have gone and locked it far before she went to Varric.   You know, before they got to Skyhold?  That is a crime, because she would rather wait until she couldn't go hide from the damage she helped cause.  When the red templars were everywhere, which happened pretty much right after the destruction of the Conclave, that could have been her chance.  Instead, she gets ditzy and decides that the area couldn't possibly have anything to do with those red templars running around.

 

 She also potentially endangered the PC and Varric by bringing us that close to red lyrium.  Let's be honest here: The only reason why the PC and the companions aren't affected by that crap is because of gameplay and story segregation.  Just being near it causes "singing" in your head and oftentimes we're crawling around on the crap.  So as far as I'm concerned, Bianca just put the entire Inquisition in jeopardy.  

 

And what exactly did she need Varric or the PC for?  If she's the "omergd best archer evar," then she could have easily stealthed through there, or got one of her cronies from the Merchant's Guild to play bodyguard.  No, instead she did it in front of Varric and the Inquisitor to make her look good and relieve some of her guilt.

 

I know that months must have passed between the end of the Conclave and the trip to Skyhold.  Bianca had plenty of time to shut the door, and she didn't.  I sentenced someone to exile for throwing goats at my walls.  This woman not only unleashed red lyrium, but instead of cleaning up her own damned mess, she waits months to contact Varric.  Then she lies to him and to the PC to get what she wants.  Oh noes, she needs protection from Darkspawn.  Should have thought about that sooner.  Then she threatens the Inquisitor.  I don't care if it was serious.  In fact, that makes it worse.  An empty threat from a Mary Sue character.  She's so untouchable that the player isn't allowed to sully her by pointing out what kind of a jackass she was.

 

For her crimes against Thedas, for not locking the door in the months before going to Skyhold, for threatening the Inquisitor, and for endangering the Inquisition, I sentence her to community service.  She is to work alongside Dagna for the Inquisition until Corypheus is defeated.  


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So you'd be willing to die for the low chance of killing Anders?

 

Look at it from Sebastian's point of view. Anders is a murderer that killed his closest friend as well as many others he must have known that lived there, destroyed a place of what was supposed to be sanctuary, and would have simply killed him too if not for Seb's good timing (Sebastian will even comment on that). In his shoes, yes, I'd give it a shot, because I could not suffer the scum to live. Good thing for the Sebastian in my playthrough that Hawke couldn't either.



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She did, because she could have gone and locked it far before she went to Varric.   You know, before they got to Skyhold?  That is a crime.  When the red templars were everywhere, which happened pretty much right after the destruction of the Conclave, that could have been her chance.  She also potentially endangered the PC and Varric by bringing us that close to red lyrium.  

 

Let's be honest here: The only reason why the PC and the companions aren't affected by that crap is because of gameplay and story segregation.  Just being near the crap causes "singing" in your head and oftentimes we're crawling around on the crap.  So as far as I'm concerned, Bianca just put the entire Inquisition in jepordary.  And what exactly did she need Varric or the PC for?  If she's the "omergd best archer evar," then she could have easily stealthed through there, or got one of her cronies from the Merchant's Guild to play bodyguard.  No, instead she did it in front of Varric and the Inquisitor to make her look good and relieve some of her guilt.

 

I know that months must have passed between the end of the Conclave and the trip to Skyhold.  Bianca had plenty of time to shut the door, and she didn't.  I sentenced someone to exile for throwing goats at my walls.  This woman not only unleashed red lyrium, but instead of cleaning up her own damned mess, she waits months to contact Varric.  Then she lies to him in order to get him to do what she wants.  Then she threatens the Inquisitor.  I don't care if it was serious.  In fact, that makes it worse.  An empty threat from a Mary Sue character.

 

For her crimes against Thedas, for not locking the door in the months before going to Skyhold, for threatening the Inquisitor, and for endangering the Inquisition, I sentence her to community service.  She is to work alongside Dagna for the Inquisition until Corypheus is defeated.

 

And also give us an automatic crossbow. 

 

That's important. 


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Yeah. The fact that she keeps trying to cover her ass and is a complete idiot during the quest doesn't help. She and Solas both screwed up and share the blame for how Cory was able to threaten the world. But at least Solas is fighting to stop Corypheus, unlike a certain lady dwarf. You know that super awesome crossbow you designed that you don't feel like sharing, Bianca? NOW IS THE PERFECT TIME TO GIVE THE DESIGN TO US SO THAT WE CAN CLEAN UP YOUR GODDAMN MESS. 

 

To be fair on this part, she had no idea that Grey Warden was actually Cory. Solas atleast knew who he was before his mistake

 

This. I was hoping I'd have the option to persuade her to give me a schematic or a similar replica before I knew about her mistake. The fact that I couldn't persuade her to do it as a way to atone frustrated me to no end. 

 

They'd probably give us a mission to deal with Carta after we convinced her to help



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And also give us an automatic crossbow. 
 
That's important.


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And also give us an automatic crossbow. 

 

That's important. 

She can keep the damned crossbow as far as I'm concerned.  I'll stick with a good ol' fashioned bow and quiver with some training.  I'm not giving her the satisfaction.  Her designs aren't even worth it.  Hopefully we never see that plot armored waste of a Mary Sue character again.  As far as I'm concerned, she can go rot in the same hell as where that Gary Stu Kei Leng ended up.  


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They'd probably give us a mission to deal with Carta after we convinced her to help

 

And the Inquisition could totally handle that. Who better, right? We just ended two different wars and averted another.

 

The Carta wants to take the Inquisition on? They can bring it.



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For her crimes against Thedas, for not locking the door in the months before going to Skyhold, for threatening the Inquisitor, and for endangering the Inquisition, I sentence her to community service.  She is to work alongside Dagna for the Inquisition until Corypheus is defeated.  

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Oh! That's fine! I thought you wanted to kill her lol. Which is why I was alarmed.



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And also give us an automatic crossbow. 

 

That's important. 

Lol, good priorities!

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And the Inquisition could totally handle that. Who better, right? We just ended two different wars and averted another.

 

The Carta wants to take the Inquisition on? They can bring it.

 

Not gonna lie, that's what I wanted to happen anyway

 

Convincing her to aid the Inquisition and get the Carta off her and Varric's back in one swoop  :P

 

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Man, the hate for Bianca is something fierce with some of you, hahaha. I admire it. I think Anders is as terribad as y'all think Bianca is.



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Oh! That's fine! I thought you wanted to kill her lol. Which is why I was alarmed.

Oh, but I did when she made that remark.  I've calmed down, but if the murder knife option had been there, I would have taken it.  There is actually a good chance that I would sentence her to die if I did a judgment right after that.  I don't think she deserves to live for what she's done, at all.  Again, we can sentence people to die for much less.

 

Instead, I'm a nice guy and would let her work with Dagna until Cory was dead.  After that, if I ever catch her in southern Thedas again, I'll carve out her heart and feed it to Hawke's marabi.  For betraying Varric, since she was so quick to threaten me.

 

You get one chance with me.  After that, I'll gleefully put an arrow into your heart.



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Man, the hate for Bianca is something fierce with some of you, hahaha. I admire it. I think Anders is as terribad as y'all think Bianca is.

 

One thing I hate about Bianca is that she didn't get a unique model lol  :P


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One thing I hate about Bianca is that she didn't get a unique model lol  :P

 

I imagine she'll be back in a later game if she isn't killed off in an Inquisition expansion, so stay hopeful.



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Look at it from Sebastian's point of view. Anders is a murderer that killed his closest friend as well as many others he must have known that lived there, destroyed a place of what was supposed to be sanctuary, and would have simply killed him too if not for Seb's good timing (Sebastian will even comment on that). In his shoes, yes, I'd give it a shot, because I could not suffer the scum to live. Good thing for the Sebastian in my playthrough that Hawke couldn't either.

Anders isn't scum, but all right. Presumably Sebastian knew he'd lose and decided to try again with an army at his back.

 

 

Oh, but I did when she made that remark.  I've calmed down, but if the murder knife option had been there, I would have taken it.  There is actually a good chance that I would sentence her to die if I did a judgment right after that.  I don't think she deserves to live for what she's done, at all.  Again, we can sentence people to die for much less.

 

Instead, I'm a nice guy and would let her work with Dagna until Cory was dead.  After that, if I ever catch her in southern Thedas again, I'll carve out her heart and feed it to Hawke's marabi.  For betraying Varric, since she was so quick to threaten me.

 

You get one chance with me.  After that, I'll gleefully put an arrow into your heart.

There's a nonzero chance that Varric would outright attack you. And if not, he'd definitely leave the Inquisition. How far do you really want to go for revenge?



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I imagine she'll be back in a later game if she isn't killed off in an Inquisition expansion, so stay hopeful.

well we can kill Fiona and Briala so that 2/3 annoying characters I wanted to be rid of