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The DLC was designed after feedback from game users.......Really?


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So most players who gave feedback wanted more MMO fetch quests and a DLC that had no bearing on the story, no impact, no WTF choices, no character story progression, no NPC development/immersion, no meaningful NPC story interaction etc.

 

Really?

 

I don't believe that for a second.

 

This DLC is just more of the same and that's great if you liked DAI as a MMO. I was sold on the premise that it was a RPG.


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Is there a source for this?



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Hi KillTheLastRomantic,

As one of the writers on the DLC, I wanted to say Jaws of Hakkon was created entirely after the team finished making Dragon Age: Inquisition. People can like it or not (I hope they do!) but I wanted to clear that misconception.

Thanks,

SylvF

(Also I don't normally post here - I worry about inadvertently derailing discussions - so this will probably be my only post on the matter.)

 

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So why not accept that those who everyday set fires on the forum are minority?


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I have to agree here. I liked Inquisition..but this DLC...well...It has some interesting bits. But on the whole, it felt WAY too Elder Scrolls-y for me. And I didn't have that complaint of Inquisition as a whole either - like a lot of people did. This DLC was pretty much a copy paste of Skyrim's main quest line with the Dragonborn DLC.


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Funny. No where in that quote do I see the words "DLC designed around player feedback." Unless it's written in invisible ink or something.....I dunno. It's possible.

 

That being said, I enjoyed the crap out of the story in the DLC. No, it didn't progress your main story. No, it didn't add anything new to the equation. No, it did not add any new major choices to the game.

 

All in all, the story is interesting. The history is fleshed out a bit, and you learn more about a time when Elves weren't a lower class of citizen. I absolutely loved this DLC for what I believe it was intended to be, a break from the main story. A chance to get more intimate with the history of Thedas. And a higher level zone :-P

 

Worth my $15!

 

EDIT: Too much "That being said". I need to expand my vocabulary a bit....


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So why not accept that those who everyday set fires on the forum are minority?

They won't. The toxic people on this forum like to think they are speaking for everybody.


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shows that after winning some GOTY awards they don't care about criticism anymore

 

apparently now they have finally found out what DA is all about (according to Mike Laidaw):

a lifeless open world with 1000 fetch quests and no story focus


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Funny. No where in that quote do I see the words "DLC designed around player feedback." Unless it's written in invisible ink or something.....I dunno. It's possible.

 

That being said, I enjoyed the crap out of the story in the DLC. No, it didn't progress your main story. No, it didn't add anything new to the equation. No, it did not add any new major choices to the game.

 

That being said, the story is interesting. The history is fleshed out a bit, and you learn more about a time when Elves weren't a lower class of citizen. I absolutely loved this DLC for what I believe it was intended to be, a break from the main story. A chance to get more intimate with the history of Thedas. And a higher level zone :-P

 

Worth my $15!

 

 

I agree. Be prepared to get ridiculed and have people attempt to bully you off the forum for liking it. 


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shows that after winning some GOTY awards they don't care about criticism anymore

 

apparently now they have finally found out what DA is all about (according to Mike Laidaw):

a lifeless open world with 1000 fetch quests and no story focus

 

 

Do you enjoy being miserable?  Please hate the game all you want but please stop trying act like you are speaking for the entire audience. You're not. And people like you are making it more and more difficult for people who enjoy the game to post.


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I agree. Be prepared to get ridiculed and have people attempt to bully you off the forum for liking it. 

 

Haha. Bully me because, while I agree with some of the points they make when they bash the game/DLC, I come out with a different opinion then them? I respect the fact that they don't enjoy the game, not once do I bash someone for having a different opinion than me. People like that aren't worth the effort it takes to be bothered by them.


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Do you enjoy being miserable?  Please hate the game all you want but please stop trying act like you are speaking for the entire audience. You're not. And people like you are making it more and more difficult for people who enjoy the game to post.

when did I say that I was speaking for everyone?

You (and some others on this forums) apparently can't deal with any sort of criticism for a game they like lol

this is a discussion forum not a fanboy forum 

People who like the game can post their opinion AND those who don't can too

 

Also I'm somehow miserable because I think DA:I is a bad game and the DLC sucks?
try harder 


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shows that after winning some GOTY awards they don't care about criticism anymore

 

apparently now they have finally found out what DA is all about (according to Mike Laidaw):

a lifeless open world with 1000 fetch quests and no story focus

 

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BSN is, despite the fact that it exists for several years now, still new to the concept of "opinions" and that they may or may not agree with yours and that the devs listen to a large variety of complaints/criticism, not just 1 type.


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when did I say that I was speaking for everyone?

You (and some others on this forums) apparently can't deal with any sort of criticism for a game they like lol

this is a discussion forum not a fanboy forum 

 

I'm miserable because I think DA:I is a bad game and the DLC sucks?
try harder 

 

You've beaten the dead horse. You've beaten 10 dead horses. The fact remains it pisses you off that people LIKE the game. Just  admit and go find something constructive to do and stop making people so uncomfortable to post. 


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I agree. Be prepared to get ridiculed and have people attempt to bully you off the forum for liking it. 

its the opposite

lately it seems the fanboys have increased and get angry at anyone who dislikes their precious game


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Haha. Bully me because, while I agree with some of the points they make when they bash the game/DLC, I come out with a different opinion then them? I respect the fact that they don't enjoy the game, not once do I bash someone for having a different opinion than me. People like that aren't worth the effort it takes to be bothered by them.

 

I like pointing out that these same complaints have been said for every game and DLC thats been done. 

 

Seriously though, I have nothing against constructive criticism but this forum has become toxic.   When people get bullied for liking the game...something needs to be done


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its the opposite

lately it seems the fanboys have increased and get angry at anyone who dislikes their precious game

Not a fanboy. I rate the game an 8/10

 

I just don't think the games garbage like you. You are miserable and you attempt to make everyone else miserable. Do you enjoy that?


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It's hardly just this forum that found the shallow sidequests and collection stuff tiresome.


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Not a fanboy. I rate the game an 8/10

 

I just don't think the games garbage like you. You are miserable and you attempt to make everyone else miserable. Do you enjoy that?

Again how am I miserable for disliking the game? 

I think its pretty bad (especially compared to the first two) I would rate it 4/10

 

 

And I don't attempt anything you seem to forget that this is a discussion forum

interestingly not everyone has to like the game

big shock I know 


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You've beaten the dead horse. You've beaten 10 dead horses. The fact remains it pisses you off that people LIKE the game. Just  admit and go find something constructive to do and stop making people so uncomfortable to post.


Oh for god sake

Allow him/her to share his/hers opinion on the game! If you find it inmature ranting do you really have to stooped down to that.
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its the opposite

lately it seems the fanboys have increased and get angry at anyone who dislikes their precious game

 

Please read what you just said. Am I a "fanboy" because I enjoy both the game and it's DLC? I do not blindly love the game simply because it is made by Bioware, nor do I agree with all the design choices(Skyrim references....I have never beaten Skyrim, and probably will never bring myself to do so). 

 

I purchased the game based on past games. I have enjoyed both Origins as well as Dragon Age 2(Yes, and I agree with 99% of the criticism over that game as well). The Mass Effect series is absolutely amazing in my eyes, even with all the games flaws and poor design choices there. I give criticism where it's due, but in the end, my opinion of these games still comes out positive.

 

Personally, I've seen more hate-mongering on these forums than fanboying. I do not lump everyone who has a negative opinion of the game into the same category, so please show the same respect and do not classify everyone who enjoys the game as a "fanboy".


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If they would just give every important conversation an actual cutscene, I think it would greatly subtract from that MMO feel and improve the atmosphere 1000 times over.


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Please read what you just said. Am I a "fanboy" because I enjoy both the game and it's DLC? I do not blindly love the game simply because it is made by Bioware, nor do I agree with all the design choices(Skyrim references....I have never beaten Skyrim, and probably will never bring myself to do so). 

 

I purchased the game based on past games. I have enjoyed both Origins as well as Dragon Age 2(Yes, and I agree with 99% of the criticism over that game as well). The Mass Effect series is absolutely amazing in my eyes, even with all the games flaws and poor design choices there. I give criticism where it's due, but in the end, my opinion of these games still comes out positive.

 

Personally, I've seen more hate-mongering on these forums than fanboying. I do not lump everyone who has a negative opinion of the game into the same category, so please show the same respect and do not classify everyone who enjoys the game as a "fanboy".

I definitely didn't mean you sry should have been more specific

 

good that you like the game

I'm talking about people like Melca who just jump at people because they don't like DA:I 

Thats very fanboyish


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If they would just give every important conversation an actual cutscene, I think it would greatly subtract from that MMO feel and improve the atmosphere 1000 times over.

I agree but they won't 

since Skyrim doesn't have cutscenes


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