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[SomeoneStoleMyName]

With the exclusion of rogue archer and KE mage, what do you guys think is the best solo-NM class+spec post skyhold?

 

I'm considering Melee rogue focused on throwing blades as you have stealth + high base damage = very powerful throwing blades. That or a Rift mage with focus on EB+Guard on hit + flashpoint. With the latter you can, with 2 x Guard on hit get 9x24 = 216 guard bursts. That or 5 Guard + 1% lifeleech for 120 guard/24% hp regen per double EB burst. I'm guessing SnS Reaver is also viable?

 

The reason I'm asking for post-skyhold is that it is possible to do it, but instead of being diffucult (well difficult also of course) it is more tedious and time consuming than anything. So I've decided to take pre-skyhold as a team so I dont have to spend a week just to get to skyhold. 

[DomeWing333]

SnS Reaver is probably the best all-around class outside of KE for a solo run. Assassin DWs are better for damage but one slip-up and you're dead. Champions are better for survivability but take forever killing mobs. 

[Maker Be Damned]

I'm going to try a 2 handed Qunari champion but I have no idea if it will work.

[Arvaarad]

Assassin DWs are better for damage but one slip-up and you're dead.

On the flip side, you know very quickly if you're doing something wrong, rather than slowly draining your resources over a long, drawn-out fight.

And if you do somehow paint yourself into a 0 potions corner, you can always use Flank Attack+Skirmisher and get the hell out of Dodge.

[PapaCharlie9]

Best how? Easy to play? Fun to play? Most OP?

 

I like the challenge of trying a new class/spec and figuring out how to get the most out of it. From what I've read, they are all playable solo, though personally I gave up on solo Necromancer, I couldn't get the hang of it. I haven't tried SnS Reaver yet, probably on my next PT.

 

In terms of fun, I like Tempest or Assassin DW rogues for the sneaky-sneaky stabby-stabby playstyle.

 

After Tempest archer and KE mage, I'd say Assassin DW rogue is most OP.

[JeffKaos]

I'll tell you this: I play as S&S Champion (but specialty is probably a matter of taste) and I accidentally went to fight a dragon who I later found out was way higher level than me. He wiped my entire party within a few attacks but by using Shield Wall, Bull Charge and War Cry I was able to take him out in an epic 1 and a half hour battle that I just wouldn't give up on. I only needed to use 2 or 3 potions on myself when I mistimed a Shield Wall block. After that fight I realized the S&S warrior can probably solo anything is they make strategic use of guard. I developed a pretty decent play style with my character and by the time I unlocked the specialty classes I didn't feel like replacing my tried and tested skills I was used to with new ones so I chose the one with the passive skills I thought would work best.

[PapaCharlie9]

I'll tell you this: I play as S&S Champion (but specialty is probably a matter of taste) and I accidentally went to fight a dragon who I later found out was way higher level than me.

Don't tell me, let me guess. It can't be any of the dragons that you have to intentionally work hard to get to, like Vinsomer or The Abyssal or any in Emprise Du Lion. I'll also rule out the ones that give you plenty of warning, like the Fereldan Frostback or the Northern Hunter. They are also the lowest level dragons.

 

That leaves just two: either the Sandy Howler in the Hissing Waste, whom you have to pass to get to the final stage of the Tomb quest, or the Greater Mistral in Emerald Graves, though that one is hard to stumble upon unless you are running away from giants.

 

So I'll go with Sandy Howler in the Hissing Waste as my final answer. Am I right?

 

EDIT: Wait, I missed the hint that you hadn't unlocked Skyhold yet. That means it has to be the Fereldan Frostback. Shoot.

 

BTW, nice epic hour+ long battle there. My first PT and first battle with the Fereldan Frostback felt like an hour+.

[Magdalena11]

I thought the wartable mission to specialize was only available after reaching skyhold.  Is there a way to access it beforehand?  You can collect the wisp essences and broken philters or whatever, but without a trainer or writings, you won't be able to do anything with them.

[Tharkun]

I thought the wartable mission to specialize was only available after reaching skyhold.  Is there a way to access it beforehand?  You can collect the wisp essences and broken philters or whatever, but without a trainer or writings, you won't be able to do anything with them.

You are correct.  The poster references this in his dragon story.

 

 

 After that fight I realized the S&S warrior can probably solo anything is they make strategic use of guard. I developed a pretty decent play style with my character and by the time I unlocked the specialty classes I didn't feel like replacing my tried and tested skills I was used to with new ones so I chose the one with the passive skills I thought would work best.

 

[JeffKaos]

Don't tell me, let me guess. It can't be any of the dragons that you have to intentionally work hard to get to, like Vinsomer or The Abyssal or any in Emprise Du Lion. I'll also rule out the ones that give you plenty of warning, like the Fereldan Frostback or the Northern Hunter. They are also the lowest level dragons.

 

That leaves just two: either the Sandy Howler in the Hissing Waste, whom you have to pass to get to the final stage of the Tomb quest, or the Greater Mistral in Emerald Graves, though that one is hard to stumble upon unless you are running away from giants.

 

So I'll go with Sandy Howler in the Hissing Waste as my final answer. Am I right?

 

EDIT: Wait, I missed the hint that you hadn't unlocked Skyhold yet. That means it has to be the Fereldan Frostback. Shoot.

 

BTW, nice epic hour+ long battle there. My first PT and first battle with the Fereldan Frostback felt like an hour+.

I looked it up; it was Vinsomer. Tough battle and like you said "epic". But totally doable using guard and paying close attention to the dragons attack cues. Last night I soloed Highland Ravager for about half his HP. My party and I are level 20 and they were able to last long enough to whittle the dragon down to about half his HP before they got wiped by the little "dragonling" guys who show up during the fight. By using my shield block technique I was able to kill him in a little under 45 minutes. One strategy I added was to use "Bull Rush" just as he was about to breath fire. I could run right through him, do multiple hits and not get hit with fire. By using "war cry" when I was low on guard and also surrounded by the little dragons I was able to keep my guard up. I used "shield bash" and "payback strike" as AOE attacks which was able to kill the little guys and still do damage the dragon. I also made use of the enhanced version of shield bash to take down the dragons guard. I didn't need to use any potions on myself for this fight. I should also note that I'm currently on my first play through and playing at "normal" difficulty. As a Sword & Shield warrior I'm more than confident that I can pretty much solo the rest of the game if I needed to. 

 

*Edit* I was also able to use my "Mark of the Rift" ability more than once in this fight because I was able to take out so many little dragons and fill up my focus.

[Cydh]

I concur about soloing everything in the base game as a sword and shield. You don't need a specialization either, and you can pump your dps quite high (though you never reach the one-shot category).

 

The hard parts start with the DLC, as it becomes increasingly difficult to do without the assistance of a friend.

 

Right now my own little humble opinion is that the best warrior spec for soloing in the Jaws of Hakkon DLC would be sword and shield Templar because of Spell Purge, a critical tool that the other specs don't have access to. That said, I haven't tried soloing anything in there yet.

[Biotic Flash Kick]

Solo'd that jaw of haakon with my dwarven 2 hand templar
 
let me tell you
It took me over an hour to kill

 

Spoiler

Gurd and his mobs

 

and it was an exercise in combat roll and kiting 

 

to be fair i didnt craft any good gear

so mileage may vary

[Cydh]

Biotic, you're the man. Seriously.

 

And believe me I know.

 

Oh I know.

 

I know.

 

Congratulations!

[Biotic Flash Kick]

Pain in my god damn side

 

i tired the DLC with my Champ and was like NOPE

My guard got eaten left right center and walking fortress was just not really helping

 

I did with a DW Rogue + party

gotta say DW assassin can knife this DLC like butter if you max out the gear and craft it well 

[Zodrac]

In my opinion 2h Warrior with Champ tree + high crit chance is a good balanced solo class char. Masterwork on weapon - Hidden Blades (ofc u can use essence which increase dmg ... but i went for more dps because champion needs it badly), Masterwork on armor - Walking Fortress.

Why not Guard on Hit? With enough crit chance your passive "Flow of Battle" will shine. and as buffer masterwork - Walking Fortress for 5 sec is wonderful which keeps u alive most of the time. Well i am not sure if Hidden Blades proc crits also triggers "Flow of Battle" passive ... but it feels it does trigger the passive, because sometimes i saw my skills were already up after i triggered it (e.g. Charging Bull). It could be also a bug, but i am not sure. And most important skill: Combat roll. Damn i love this skill, safes your ass most of the time. For me better than "Block and Slash" skill.

 

As for Knight Enchanter solo ... well those archers nearly 1-2 shot me most of the time before i could anything could trigger like walking fortress etc. Ofc i can activate that cloak and barrier first before charging a group. Still if u are not carefully enough activating cloak everytime u are instantly dead. Champion has its lifesaver passive "Unyielding". 5 sec immunity is better than anything u can wish for. 

 

While soloing DLC, I feel more safer with Crit 2h Warrior Champ than with Crit- KE. Regarding dps ... well i wish i were Reaver + Champ... KE clearly tops Champs.

[deadkai]

SnS Reaver is probably the best all-around class outside of KE for a solo run. Assassin DWs are better for damage but one slip-up and you're dead. Champions are better for survivability but take forever killing mobs. 

With to the death active, the dps of a Champion is nearly as good as that of a Reaver.

[DomeWing333]

With to the death active, the dps of a Champion is nearly as good as that of a Reaver.

On bosses, maybe. But a Champion doesn't tear through groups of enemies nearly as efficiently as a Reaver.