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Can we just say this? DA:I is the best RPG I have ever played.


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 You CAN'T skip them. At least not that I've found. And I also found the sex scenes in inquisition to be less tasteful than previous games. There is absolutely no reason that sex scenes should be that explicit in a video game. It's just weird. 

 

And Geralt is not always saved by a woman. Most of the women in the games are useless and serve only as screw fodder or damsel in distress roles for him. 

Well, in DA:I I have only seen two of the possible "sex scenes" but they were not explicit at all... they kiss and then it fades out black. And after they're done they talk while naked, but I don't find that offensive. DAO was more explicit. But I like it anyway, so I might be a bit insensitive to it.


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What's "tasteful"?

 

Not showing full on doggy style humping for one. For two I don't need to see full nudity in a video game. I didn't mind the boobs in inquisition but to me they felt a little unecessary. 


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There is absolutely no reason that sex scenes should be that explicit in a video game. It's just weird. 

 

Nothing weird about that. There is one simple reason - more people than you would imagine likes it.

Otherwise for example, there would be no games version of ever so popular "Hentai" genre. There are entire games and series focused on sex. What does that tells us? This stuff sells and more than enough gamers are willing to buy those games. 

 

Now I would like to reverse a bit this sentence of yours, so it would go like.

There is absolutely no reason that sex scenes shouldn't be explicit in a video game.

 

Or maybe there is? If you know any, please do tell me.


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Not showing full on doggy style humping for one. For two I don't need to see full nudity in a video game. I didn't mind the boobs in inquisition but to me they felt a little unecessary. 

So you're a prude who finds nudity and sex in games tasteless? So why do you seek the sex/nudity out and then complain about it?


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Not showing full on doggy style humping for one. For two I don't need to see full nudity in a video game. I didn't mind the boobs in inquisition but to me they felt a little unecessary. 

You mean this scene? (NSFW)

Spoiler

 

You don't like nudity in games. That's fine, but that doesn't mean there is anything wrong with it. Everybody has a different definition of what "tasteful" means. I didn't find any of the underwear or clothed sex scenes in Dragon Age Origins or 2 "tasteful" but I also don't feel the neccessity to constantly complain about them, like you are doing with the Witcher sex scenes.


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My attitude to sex scenes in games (as with pretty much all media) is either do them properly, or don't do them at all. I'm perfectly happy with a fade to black after a kiss followed by seeing them in bed afterwards. But at the same time, I've no problem with actually showing two people having sex (as in the Witcher screenshot above). The problem for me comes when you're stuck somewhere in the middle - as DA:O was. No-one has sex while wearing undies like that. it was comically bad and utterly ruined any intimacy the scene should have had. If you don't want to (or can't) show sex in a believable manner, don't show it at all.

 

I actually think DA:I, from the two romances I've played through, does it pretty well. It doesn't try to show the actual sex, but at the same time, it doesn't try to hide either the fact that the people have had sex, or the fact that they're naked.


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If we all shared the Qunari view on open sex, the world would be a much better (and fun  ;) ) place.

 

Back on topic, thanks BioWare, really great RPG! But........when do we get to see Tallis again 



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Best rpg? Far from it
Could have been? Indeed

Overall Good game? Yes


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So you're a prude who finds nudity and sex in games tasteless? So why do you seek the sex/nudity out and then complain about it?

 

No, I'm not a prude. I'm a person who finds it odd that anyone would enjoy watching fictional characters that aren't even real humans have sex. I'd rather go do the act myself than watch pixels get it on. 



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No, I'm not a prude. I'm a person who finds it odd that anyone would enjoy watching fictional characters that aren't even real humans have sex. I'd rather go do the act myself than watch pixels get it on. 

So why do you actively seek out fictional characters getting it on? Besides the opening cutscene of The Witcher 2, you are never forcefully exposed to sex in either The Witcher or Dragon Age games.



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Well, this is has completely off the rails of the topic.  Please correct me if I'm mistaken, but can't you just hit ESC or spacebar to get past any cutscene in most RPGs these days?  When I was playing DA:O, I would always skip through the sex cutscene because I thought it was cheesy.    


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Well, this is has completely off the rails of the topic.  Please correct me if I'm mistaken, but can't you just hit ESC or spacebar to get past any cutscene in most RPGs these days?  When I was playing DA:O, I would always skip through the sex cutscene because I thought it was cheesy.    

Yes, you can. That is why I don't get it when people complain about nudity/sex scenes. I've yet to play a game where an integral part of the story is revealed during a sex scene, some people just need a reason to whine about something I guess.



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So why do you actively seek out fictional characters getting it on? Besides the opening cutscene of The Witcher 2, you are never forcefully exposed to sex in either The Witcher or Dragon Age games

 

The dragon age games don't bother me. While I think inquisition goes a little too far it's not far enough to be an issue. As for the Witcher games, I played them once and in 1 I didn't choose any of the sex scenes. In 2 you not only have that scene but the scene at the elven waterfalls or the scene with ves if you choose her as your mate. As I said none of them are skippable for me at least, or maybe I missed how to do so. Also i'm not the only one in my house playing the games so I have to see them whether I like it or not because I'm not about to dictate what other people do. 

 

I never said other people can't enjoy the games. I said I think it's weird and I don't enjoy sex in my video games. 



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I love RuPaul. Anyway...

 

 

 

People should go to the ME

 

Totally OT but I read people should go to the Mass Effect...



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The dragon age games don't bother me. While I think inquisition goes a little too far it's not far enough to be an issue. As for the Witcher games, I played them once and in 1 I didn't choose any of the sex scenes. In 2 you not only have that scene but the scene at the elven waterfalls or the scene with ves if you choose her as your mate. As I said none of them are skippable for me at least, or maybe I missed how to do so. Also i'm not the only one in my house playing the games so I have to see them whether I like it or not because I'm not about to dictate what other people do. 

 

I never said other people can't enjoy the games. I said I think it's weird and I don't enjoy sex in my video games. 

You can avoid all of that though, you don't have to have sex with Ves, you don't have to take Triss to the elven ruins and you don't have to watch the people in your house play the game. Like I said, unless you're playing a version of the game that hasn't been updated since its original launch date, every single cut scene can be skipped, I believe you left click, then right click to skip cutscenes.



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There is so much ridiculous semi-trolling whinging going on about this game on these boards, and it's really frustrating me. Especially since much of it is clearly coming from people who are playing this game to death, yet feel the need to come on these boards to whine and have their baseless criticisms validated because they think it makes them seem like discerning gamers.

 

Nuts to that. 

 

I have played Bioware games since Baldur's Gate 2, and up until now that was my favourite RPG of all time. I liked DA:O just fine, and I loved DA2, but they weren't quite as mind-blowing as BG2. 

 

This game makes all of those games look like amateur efforts. The sheer amount of content. The gorgeous well-designed graphics. The enormous amount of codex entries that don't dumb it down and don't "streamline" the world-building. The dynamic and innovative combat system that blends real-time elements with turn-based concepts. The well-thought out cast that's devoid of ridiculous stereotypes that have plagued some previous Bioware titles. Deep, involved romances, more so than any previous Bioware title. 

 

This game is truly incredible. People see that, and that's why it's received such critical acclaim. It's not without its flaws. The loss of the detailed tactics system in DA2 disappointed me. Skyhold feels a bit empty and lifeless - Haven is a better home-base.

 

But this truly redefined what I thought Bioware was capable of, and RPGs more generally. 

 

Please, leave a comment if you loved this game and are tired and frustrated by the constant pettiness and insincere cries of "Not enough hairstyles - guess I'm returning the game then!" 

 

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So much strange suppositions...
1. So much content: You mean it is good? Can be. Depends. If a person likes the game mechanics and the kind of content provided it is good, if not, it is torture. Content in itself is neutral. SO, "a lot of content" means absolutely nothing when it comes to the game quality.

2. Gorgeous well-designed graphics: You mean it is good? Can be. If you bother with graphics. Seeing how huge the market of android, iOS and mobiles like 3DS are I am pretty sure that not caring with graphics cannot be qualified as nostalgia. And no, not all low-graphics games are casual. Also, no, they are not all from other genre.

3. Codex entries: You mean it is good? If you love Thedas, yes. But not when the game makes you lose interest in Thedas. Inquisition managed to make me lose all wonder I had about Thedas. Everything DAO and DA2 built up making me read comics, the pen and paper RPG material, World of Thedas and other, Inquisition made it all look like a Micheal Bay Movie (Rawgrim copyright) and seem childish mainstream ****.

4. Dynamic and Innovative combat system: You mean it is good? Can be. If you like dynamic combat that is. If you like tactical combat and Origins was already too much action than Inquisition is a sharp sword cutting all hopes on ejoying the gameplay of the series.

5. Companions: DAI is a lot more stereotipical. You can't get more stereotypical than a BDSM huge guy with horns who is all macho, likes drinking and is sexually aroused with fighting dragons. A gay guy who looks gay and fab. A spock who looks like spock. And so on. DAO featured a lot more interesting companions.

6. Romances: Except for Sera's DAI's are a lot worse. They seem better because the writters were cowards and resorted to the most basic feelings, but DAO stories were a lot more interesting. They are better written and this is what I think you meant, but they are less interesting.

This truly redefined what I thought Bioware was capable of. I thought they couldn't be worse than DA2 but I was proven wrong. Now I don't doubt they can make games worse than even my most terrible nightmares plagued with fear, terror and despair demons.

So thing is, of course you can like this game, it features things you like. It does not feature things I like. Not a thing. So I hate it, Simple isn't it?
Like I absolutely love Pillars of Eternity, it features everything I like, every single thing.
It is not hard ot understand is it? Different tastes.

I just hate DAI because it destroyed Thedas for me, the whole lore, all interest I had. It is rare to find a game so awful it destroys your interest in the series. And that's it. I'm not home now, not able to play Pillars of Eternity, so I'm pretty sad and in need to say how awful DAI is.


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Wow that might be the most similar list to my own favorite games I've ever seen... especially putting Suikoden 3 in there when everyone celebrates 2 so much I feel like they might miss the magic of 3.

 

2 is great, but 3 has the best implementation of a "multiple viewpoints" mechanic I've ever seen, so it gets bonus points for that.



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No, I'm not a prude. I'm a person who finds it odd that anyone would enjoy watching fictional characters that aren't even real humans have sex. I'd rather go do the act myself than watch pixels get it on. 

That logic, though I suppose it's more a statement of opinion than logic, does not seem to hold any water unless you can elaborate further. For one it can be applied to fictional characters eating, drinking, speaking, fighting, joking, etc. All involve fictional characters that carry out some act where a user may state "I'd rather go do the act myself than watch pixels get it on." 

 

I sometimes laugh when a fictional character makes a joke, I do not chastise myself that the character is fictional and thus I ought to direct myself to the nearest mental asylum for having laughed at a joke spoken by nobody that exists. All of literature and art would be at once negated to the point of taboo.

 

Can you explain why sexual acts cause a specific unease or repulsion such that you seek to skip them (which you are perfectly within your rights to do so)? Are they not properly executed, very poorly done, or are you of the opinion that they have no place in the video game industry? 


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Reacts negatively to sex and nudity, and at the same time has zero reaction or complaints about the violence. No offense, but that is pretty disturbing.


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Just a reminder to the haters that are trolling this thread. Taken from this link

 

http://askagamedev.t...ve-their-game-i

 

You are a minority in the forum. You are not speaking for everybody.

 

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Just a reminder to the haters that are trolling this thread. Taken from this link

 

http://askagamedev.t...ve-their-game-i

 

You are a minority in the forum. You are not speaking for everybody.

 

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So what you are saying is that there shouldn't be a feedback forum, really. Since not many people use it anyway. The majority of the fanbase are those that say nothing at all, and Bioware should listen to those people.


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What's "tasteful"?

Whatever the person asking for tastefulness deems appropriate and in agreement with they're own personal taste. Therefore, in general, when someone says something is untasteful you should just ignore him/her. What he/she means is actually "I don't like it".


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So what you are saying is that there shouldn't be a feedback forum, really. Since not many people use it anyway. The majority of the fanbase are those that say nothing at all, and Bioware should listen to those people.


I wonder how they know what the majority of the fanbase thinks then.

@topic it's a good game but definitly not the best RPG I have played.
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I wonder how they know what the majority of the fanbase thinks then.

@topic it's a good game but definitly not the best RPG I have played.

 

Good question.


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At this point I have no clue what the majority of the fan base wants either. Maybe we are a tiny minority? Maybe there are fan forums where people eagerly discuss their favorite "found letter quest"'?  At this point, anything's possible.


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