Not true. Sex scenes, explicit or not are a part of the storytelling. Saying that it shouldn't be in the game or movie is like saying it shouldn't be in books either. The only difference between an explicit sex scene in a book vs movie or game is that one is written on pages and imaged in the reader's minds and the other does the same thing only in a visual format.
I do say it shouldn't be in some books. I do say it shouldn't be in some movies
I do say it shouldn't be in some books. I do say it shouldn't be in some movies
Great. This fills me with confidence in our cultural future. Where can I vote for you as the next Grand Censor? ... or wait, that's not gonna be a democratic election any more, is it?
I do say it shouldn't be in some books. I do say it shouldn't be in some movies
It should be anywhere the creators want it to be. No one is holding you down and forcing you to watch. By all means, express your opinion against it if you like, but to call for eradicating it in some media is a bit too much. Particularly when the content is optional. It's like going to a dinner party and demanding the host not serve sushi because if you don't want sushi then no one should have it.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU, OP.
AND ESPECIALLY WHAT IS TOTALLY MIND-BLOWING AND SUCH AN ENORMOUS INNOVATION IN ALL GAMING HISTORY (NOT ONLY RPGS) IS THE USE OF CAPITALS IN ALMOST ALL TEXTS IN THE GAME: WHAT A GORGEOUS, MAGNIFICENT IDEA !
SO MANY PEOPLE DREAMED OF IT, 
BIOWARE 
DID IT !
IT COMPLETELY REVOLUTIONIZES THE WAY OF PLAYING VIDEO GAMES, AND I PERSONALLY THINK THAT SUCH AN INNOVATION SHOULD BE MASSIVELY EXPORTED EVERYWHERE: NO MORE OF THESE UGLY BORING LOWER CASE LETTERS, END THIS USELESS STUPID CUSTOM, ENTER A NEW WORLD, A NEW VISION, A NEW, GREATER, BOLDER WAY OF LIFE !
ALL CAPS, EVERYWHERE, FOREVER, SO MUCH BETTER !
^TW3 was not released yet so what are you talking about?
I do say it shouldn't be in some books. I do say it shouldn't be in some movies
You absolutely right. it shouldn't be in kids books and moves. I thought DA:I is for adults but we have disney villain, Josephine disney princes.
It should be anywhere the creators want it to be. No one is holding you down and forcing you to watch. By all means, express your opinion against it if you like, but to call for eradicating it in some media is a bit too much. Particularly when the content is optional. It's like going to a dinner party and demanding the host not serve sushi because if you don't want sushi then no one should have it.
As I said earlier, that's pretty much true of all complaints. We might as well shut down the forum if the response to any shortcoming is "Nobody is forcing you to the play the game."
As I said earlier, that's pretty much true of all complaints. We might as well shut down the forum if the response to any shortcoming is "Nobody is forcing you to the play the game."
When I stated that no one is forcing you to watch, I'm not saying "Do not play the game/watch the movie/read the book" I'm saying "skip the offensive parts in said media."
ie. Sex scene pops up in a movie, turn your head until it's over.
And if the piece of media is making it optional, then all the better for you. Complaint is done. Click the button to skip it and move on. The creators are not forcing you to partake in that content.
When I stated that no one is forcing you to watch, I'm not saying "Do not play the game/watch the movie/read the book" I'm saying "skip the offensive parts in said media."
ie. Sex scene pops up in a movie, turn your head until it's over.
And if the piece of media is making it optional, then all the better for you. Complaint is done. Click the button to skip it and move on. The creators are not forcing you to partake in that content.
This^^
When I stated that no one is forcing you to watch, I'm not saying "Do not play the game/watch the movie/read the book" I'm saying "skip the offensive parts in said media."
ie. Sex scene pops up in a movie, turn your head until it's over.
And if the piece of media is making it optional, then all the better for you. Complaint is done. Click the button to skip it and move on. The creators are not forcing you to partake in that content.
So we all like the tactical cam now? 
Ironically, have been receiving some complaints at the same advice for skipping side-quests.
Have no intentions of purchasing TW3, the GoT series, Breaking Bad, or most Quinton T films for these reasons. Yet when it is suggested that others reign in the use of so-called mature materials, or apply the same to their dislike of a gaming mechanic, popping nose joints are heard everywhere.
90% DA:I quests are fetch quests is absolutely different think than, remove nudity I am afraid of nipples. We don't ask remove quest from DA:I we ask make better quests because what we have, is just bad. I don't want to skip all game, I expect quest to be at least same quality as previous games, I liked.
Not even close, but it was a step up from that abomination called DA II.
90% DA:I quests are fetch quests is absolutely different think than, remove nudity I am afraid of nipples. We don't ask remove quest from DA:I we ask make better quests because what we have, is just bad. I don't want to skip all game, I expect quest to be at least same quality as previous games, I liked.
While that may be one opinion, it does not match many others. If the side-quest is not desired, one may exit from it, skip it, do it anyway, etc. Or if one perceives that 90% of the game is this way, pass on the game.
While there are many forms of entertainment that seem entertaining to many, offending materials allow the choice to skip it, even though they may like the remaining content.
I know what I writing but you reading something else. No one wants less quests. We want better quests. Ready forums everyone except you agree DA:I have to much fetch quest and to little real side quests with story and choices.
And about offensive who decide what offensive and what not. Naked body is not offensive I never understand why some people think it is, what they are dressed in the shower so they don be offended 
. You using word offensive like it means something people are offended by everything look at this.http://www.telegraph...instorming.html I offended by cheese, so what? Bioware must put toggle for cheese.
Some people have real fear of spiders, we still have spiders in game, you can't accommodate all nonces we people can come up, you offended deal with it it's your problem not game.
I offended (I don't like it) is not the same as, game have bad quests and combat is bad game have no tactics is.
This is the worst RPG I have ever played.
I know what I writing but you reading something else. No one wants less quests. We want better quests. Ready forums everyone except you agree DA:I have to much fetch quest and to little real side quests with story and choices.
And about offensive who decide what offensive and what not. Naked body is not offensive I never understand why some people think it is, what they are dressed in the shower so they don be offended
Some people have real fear of spiders, we still have spiders in game, you can't accommodate all nonces we people can come up, you offended deal with it it's your problem not game.
I offended (I don't like it) is not the same as, game have bad quests and combat is bad game have no tactics is.Spoiler
I want a better overall experience; one without those so-called Mature materials. The human form is to be honored; not paraded about on common display, IMO. It is not the form or the experience that gathers my objections, but the oft casual and degrading manner in which they are implemented into the products.
If one does not care for what is in the game, then they should deal with it. Personally, I lower the Gore settings, and avoid encounters and NPC's that have objectionable attachments; suggest those that do not care for whatever mechanics they dislike do something much the same.
Let me put it this way: the view that the human form should be "honoured" is just a particular view. A lot of what so-called graphic media is doing is to rally against that view. It's (as a political statement) a statement about the fact that the form is crude, naturally and should be taken right off the pedestal. It's the same with swearing. It's about a kind of liberty and equalization, or at the very least about going against social convention.
Tha's a valid artistic aim, even if it's not expressed. Of course we could argue at the meta-level whether this should be the case, and I'm not suggesting you're wrong in holding the views you do in some objective sense.
Let me put it this way: the view that the human form should be "honoured" is just a particular view. A lot of what so-called graphic media is doing is to rally against that view. It's (as a political statement) a statement about the fact that the form is crude, naturally and should be taken right off the pedestal. It's the same with swearing. It's about a kind of liberty and equalization, or at the very least about going against social convention.
Tha's a valid artistic aim, even if it's not expressed. Of course we could argue at the meta-level whether this should be the case, and I'm not suggesting you're wrong in holding the views you do in some objective sense.
I realize that this is an opinion of which I strongly believe, but it is not political. And it is one that may be against the cultural norm, but I am OK with that. I prefer entertainment and art that does not contain the aforementioned materials, and use the forums as a way to try and influence a change, much as the BSN imposes a stricter code of conduct that many other boards.
In the same way, some others come here to debate for change in games; others simply whine and complain, or even demand change thinking this has influence. And I suggest that they can follow the same advice I am often given: to deal with it, or get something else.
Political doesn't have to mean "political" in the way that is so common in US discourse (i.e., tied to some policy). It's political in the sense that it's a normative view on how society ought to be or has to be (for some reason, e.g. moral or religious).
I appreciate your view - all I wanted to get across was that it need not be crass for crass's sake.
Political doesn't have to mean "political" in the way that is so common in US discourse (i.e., tied to some policy). It's political in the sense that it's a normative view on how society ought to be or has to be (for some reason, e.g. moral or religious).
I appreciate your view - all I wanted to get across was that it need not be crass for crass's sake.
The "sex in games" debate is still going on?
I agree that taste is all relative, and I don't mean come off rude. Yet, I want to ask...what exactly does this have to do with the topic? I doubt that BioWare is going to ever take the same route as CDPR, so who cares? Some folks don't mind full frontal pixelated nudity. Some would rather do without it.
When it comes to DA, if someone doesn't like the romance scenes then they should skip them. They don't show anything more graphic than boobs and butts as far as nudity goes in this game. I've done IB's romance, and I've done Cullen's. Neither of them show anything explicit. I know that Sera's romance involves hints that she's going down on the Inquisitor, but that's about it. And that's really easy to avoid as long as you don't romance her. If you do (you=general term,) get cozy with the skip button and just go past all of that. If the topless conversation with Cassandra, or the Dorian butt shot, or the topless conversation between a female Inquisitor and Bull bothers someone that much, then those romances probably aren't a good idea.
Otherwise, if someone is that uncomfortable, then they might want to stick to edited rated M games (some countries tone down and censor some of the sexual content,) learn and love the skip cutscene button, or just avoid it all together. I didn't care for The Witcher, but seeing women with full frontal nudity was not my issue. Nor was it the sex cards really, as stupid as it was. I didn't like the story or the main hero. Pixelated boobies and nymphs with pubic hair (was that moss?) is not something worth stressing over imho.
TW fans, I hope TW3 works out well for you. It may not be for me, but it looks like a solid game. 
I agree that taste is all relative, and I don't mean come off rude. Yet, I want to ask...what exactly does this have to do with the topic? I doubt that BioWare is going to ever take the same route as CDPR, so who cares? Some folks don't mind full frontal pixelated nudity. Some would rather do without it.
The best RPG is measured by the quantity of nudity per pixel per unit time, otherwise known as the "seximetre" of measure of the game. It's quite fundamental to an RPG. The number of academic papers on the appropriate time allocation to areolas alone is a testament to the importance of this topic not just to gaming but to human social advancement as a whole.
The Witcher is superior in basically every way.
Hell Skyrim even is, because it's better at being a sandbox while DA:I fumbles at it.
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