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Can we just say this? DA:I is the best RPG I have ever played.


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I liked 2 better then Origins...

 

 

Not in the means of story and writing, which i personally consider the basis of the RPG.

 

Boy oh boy, so this is what this forum is about huh? What did I expect, really... I'll be right off then. Enjoy your mediocre games.



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(sorry! where did the 'delete post' button go?)

 

It's called "Hide".



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You know, I am one of those that will post in favor of new hairstyles, and in favor of new clothes for Skyhold.  I've also posted about my issues with the game that I've had.  Most of my complaints are minor, but I am giving my feedback on the flaws I've seen the game.  There is bigger issues too, like quests that are still bugged out and/or very hard to trigger.   The no error CTDs on the PC version are another big problem.

 

Most of the people that aren't happy with the game have been giving reasons beyond, "EA sucks!" or "Skyrim clone!"  Some of those points are very valid, such as the tactical cam being a complete joke, the Random Number Generator being a horrid idea (I've posted about that several times) the M/KB controls being awful, and some of the bugged quests as well.

 

It's possible to have those complaints about the game and still enjoy it a lot.  You shouldn't throw everyone that complains about the clothes or hair or models under the same bus as those that go out of their way to harass others or mindlessly bash on EA/BioWare.  The majority of the unhappier people I've talked to on the forums has seen that I'm a proud fan of this game, and they don't flame me for it.  They respect my view, because I don't slam on them for theirs.  With rare exceptions, I figure as long as folks are being civil towards each other, I let people rant as needed.  I don't want them to apologize for not having fun, anymore than I would want to apologize for having fun.

 

If folks are unhappy and aren't trolling others, then let them be unhappy.  I'm glad that both the OP and I are among those that had a lot of fun, but I'm not going to dismiss the opinions of those that didn't.  Amid the comments of "You're a sheep for liking this game," and "The devs should quit their jobs," there has been some complaints listed that I can agree with.  Even the ones that I disagree with I can usually see where they are coming from.  Most of the people that dislike the game have been articulate and on point as to why they don't like it.


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Boy oh boy, so this is what this forum is about huh? What did I expect, really... I'll be right off then. Enjoy your mediocre games.


For whatever it's worth, I'm pretty sure C0uncil0r Tev0s hates DAI plenty.

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Its a good game but the in game text needs to be bigger



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WoW is a better rpg than this lol

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I played WoW for the better part of 7 years (from 2005-2012.)  I'm going to have to disagree with you there.  The only RP part in the MMORPG aspect of World of Warcraft is making your own character at creation.  Most folks got harassed or flamed for actually roleplaying their characters, especially after that cluster known as CRZ came about.  

 

That's the basis of RP, is to create your own character and not just looks.  Nor is it just a catch-all term for "fantasy game."   You can debate about the quality of DA:I, but I can't call WoW a RPG with a straight face.


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Except that hair is a component in order to fully immerse yourself in the fantasy.  Hair has a psychological effect on many people, hence why losing it is a huge fear of when it comes to chemotherapy, people are more upset about losing it than the nausea of the treatment.

 

I thought Inquisition was trying to be all things to all people whereas Dragon Age II hit (writing wise) at what Bioware was good at.  People hated the same "scenery" but loved the characters.  Good writing prevails at all times, and good characters make or break the experience of this type of game.

 

I like Inquisition, but I don't love it.  I love aspects of it, but I don't love "it".  Without Dorian, all tea with zero shade, the game would suck.


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For me, my #1 "minor" (read: non gameplay or story impacting) complaint is the lack of looping music.  I have a lot of memories growing up with RPG music.  I used to fire up games like Chrono Trigger to hear the Kingdom of Zeal theme.  I also did this with several games in the Final Fantasy series as well.  The music brings me into a game world.   What makes me sad is that, at least according to forum rumor, the devs didn't add looping music because it would be "less realistic/less immersive."  If that is true, then that's part of the reason why I've said that the devs feel a little out of touch sometimes.  Folks create 1/2 hour extended versions of songs or put up game soundtracks because they wanted the memory of that experience.  It takes them into that world, into that moment.

 

I was playing ME1 again, and I decided to try an experiment.  I turned off the music on one of the larger planets while I went exploring with the Mako.  Sure, it was more "realistic" but felt more dull and lifeless.  In fact, doing that sort of exploration became boring, and made the silence deafening.  I suspect that when some of the posters talk about how tedious and grindy that this game can feel, I'm wondering if it's that lack of music that's exacerbating it.   Same goes for the party banter problems.  I wonder if having looping music would help with that.

 

I know I'm sick of hearing the same few chords from The Dawn Will Come over and over and over again, and no full tracks while out in the field.  


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Ok, well my 2 cents worth.

 

All in all I love the game.  It's very enjoyable and I never would have thought I would have played it as much as I have when I initially purchased it.    But that doesn't mean I don't see areas that could be improved, in some cases what would be minor changes that could have a drastic impact on the overall enjoyment offered by the game.

 

Also I'm assuming at some point Bioware wlll release another in the series, and when they do I hope they will take all of the feedback they've gotten here and consider it carefully when putting together the next release.  

 

I play on the PS4 at the moment, but I've enjoyed it so much I'm seriously considering getting the PC version as well, and seeing if I can find a copy of origins to go with it.  But the game itself does have some areas that can be improved, the pajama's being something that probably wouldn't be difficult to fix at all and yet would very much improve the game from a roleplay standpoint.  Even my current character, a Quinari mage, looks great in most of the various armor I've tried, but looks absolutely awful in the dreaded PJ's.

 

So every moment I'm at skyhold I just have to hold my nose and suffer through it, and the result is I generally try to rush through that an get back out on mission, which of course takes a lot out of the companion interactions.

 

Again, just my 2 cents worth, YMMV


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DA:I makes a very good impression at first. Unfortunately it is not a good game. I finished it recently and after over 150 exhausting hours of super boring fetch quests and picking elf roots I probably won't be able to play it again.
 
Of course there are  good moments where it comes to main plot and companions. But 80 % of this game is one giant beautiful yet shallow and boring fetch quest in the worst MMO style.
 
PS. Sorry for bad english.

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Its not great and its not terrible. Probably as mediocre as a game can get. The combat and the simplifications are the things that keeps this game from being great. The characters in it is what saves it.


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Its not great and its not terrible. Probably as mediocre as a game can get. The combat and the simplifications are the things that keeps this game from being great. The characters in it is what saves it.

You pretty much summed up my quick review of DA2.  :P



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Even though I have some complaints, I still love the game, and it's easily one of my favourites. Once mods are working again, then I'll eagerly pick it up again. Right now it's a huge let down for me that they're not. I'm dying to play the DLC but I'm afraid that when I log on my character's eyebrows will be missing because I used a modded skin texture. Le sigh.



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I thought that DA:I was an okay to good action game with RPG elements. On the bright side, the maps look amazing except for the horribly overtuned lighting, and I found the cast of characters very enjoyable to have around. It's one of the few BioWare games where I practically liked the entire team - with different levels of intensity, but none of them got on my nerves in any way. That's a huge, huge plus. The voice acting was consistently between good and stellar.

 

More than enough has been said about its repetitive elements and weak, weak final confrontation though, so no need to repeat that. Also, some gameplay decisions really don't work well for me.

 

Overall, I well got my money's worth out of the game.

 

Also, Bioware needs to l2postlaunchsupport.



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Nah, you think so because you never played Gothic 2.

 

Serious business: they have taken out everything, save romances, I loved in DAO and DA2. There is nothing left. I just yesterday went through my DA2 screenshots, and remembered that Hawke actually had a personality, 3 of them to choose from. He was snarky, he was funny, he was angry, he was kind, he was sad. My Inquisitor...no matter what of the 3 choices you take when he speaks, it is all the same porridge.

 

There is so much I could say but I always end up deleting everything because it just does not matter. For me, gameplay is bad, exploration is bad (I'm not so much for exloration anyway, best part for me in Skyrim was console and TMM1 and I have played plenty of Skyrim) and made tedious, game has tons of filler content to hide the lack of content where BioWare used to shine: story, characters, choises that mattered, plot twists. When they dragged Flemeth to be Mythal I literally gave up the story too, it is not worth even mentioning. I actually laughed in disbelief. It was that corny. DAO and DA2 made me laugh because there was humour in them, and cry because sometimes they were sad. DAI makes me laugh from disbelief and cry from frustration.

 

There simply is something wrong with BioWare nowadays. It is not the same company that had brilliant writers, ambition and tons of creativity. I see zero creativity in DAI. I'm sad about it. I feel like there will never be games like ME, ME2 and DAO. There never was second Gothic 2 either (you don't believe what crap Piranha Bytes makes these days it is a joke). Maybe this is what happens with gaming companies: they degenerate, they allready did the best they can and after that it is downhill. Then they take the wrong turn and start to copy other games, not understanding that people don't want those other games, they allready have them, they want the things they loved in said companys games to begin with. We, the old  customers, are the ones who remember, and we compare, and we see the sorry state of affairs.

 

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This is what I miss the most. I could go on about game play for hours but I have no tears left to do it, so I just accept the butchered mess we got.

 

Why I still play? I begin because I got this game with only 30 € (think, I waited that long. Never before. I used to pre-order. Somehow I managed to see beforehand what is coming and did not pre-order now). I needed a project to put my heart on and recorded the m/m romances, that was my goal. Now I do one last playthrough, I try to be as much a completionist as I can but now when I'm at lvl14 I feel like I just can't go on. I can't finish this game anymore. I can't listen to Morrigan and see Flemeth, and I just can't kill another bear. I can't watch Varric and mages being suicidal because of **** AI and I can't try to jump to that cliff one more time.

 

I feel like what we had is lost forever and that is why I'm here. I try to point the most obvious WTF-they-were-thinking-moments I had. I have to. I don't even do it that much, I'm not even that active because I just hate to repeat myself to anyone and I don't care about arguing. But I said this all now again just to help you understand at least some of us who are not happy with this game.


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You pretty much summed up my quick review of DA2.   :P

 

I felt the same way about DA2 too.



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Eh-------! I can't really label any one RPG as my favourite XD. I love so many and have many fond memories of playing them too. 

 

Notable ones for me are, Phantasy Star IV, SaGa Frontier 2, and Seiken Densetsu 3. I love many RPGs and many things about them, but these three are definitely my favourites ^^. I think Final Fantasy Type-0 is quickly becoming a favourite but I have yet to finish it!

 

If Dragon Age had the fantastic musical compositions as their Japanese counterparts have then I would definitely put it in my top games list! 



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I felt the same way about DA2 too.

See, we have one thing in common!   We disagree about DA:I, but agree about DA2.  It's the little victories in life.   :D


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I agree it's a great game/RPG, but it doesn't hold up to the BG series, nor to the ME trilogy. The BG games are likely beyond the reach of any multiplatform game designed today, so nothing to do about that (Pillars of Eternity stands a chance though).

 

When it comes to ME, Dragon Age had the potential to equal it, but for me they didn't go all the way. Maybe if they'd gone for a three-game continuity in terms of characters and narrative instead of starting over each time, they could have.



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Yeah, no.

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The Dragon Age Franchise is indeed my favourite - but in order when it comes to them as individual games?

1. Origins (tied with FFVII for my fav. game of all time)

2. 2 (hated the repeated graphics, but got over that because the story and characters were solid)

3. Inquisition (okay on playthrough 1, but got bored of all the choices leading to the same outcome and having stuff dumbed down)/

 

Inquisition is a good game - but for me, it's just not a great game.


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(...) The enormous amount of codex entries that don't dumb it down and don't "streamline" the world-building. The dynamic and innovative combat system that blends real-time elements with turn-based concepts (...)

lore and codex entries, the "world building", as you say, is spot on - even if i don't think BW is able to create a masterpiece or something unique, they certainly can engage the gamer - kotor was star wars to kotor2's space odyssey 2001: fun like hell but didn't make me speachless; while playing ME i couldn't stop myself from calling geths - cylons. then again maybe i see more parallels than normal people who don't waste their time...

anyway fun is what games are all about. and mostly it depends on your definition of fun. for me DA:I was boring (save for very few moments), not fun.

 

on topic tho:

i simply cannot read the dynamic and innovative combat with straight face. sorry.



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Some people really don't know the meaning of "rpg". Shame.


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Some people really don't know the meaning of "rpg". Shame.


It's a role-playing game. You played a role - the Herald/Inquisitor.