DAI is by far the worst game in the series as far as I'm concerned. Perhaps the best-looking one with very cool mechanics and gameplay systems.
But as far as imaginative story content goes, this falls far short of DAO and DA2.
This game is HOLLOW.
Husssh there don't say "DA:I is the worst game in the series", that offends the fangirls.
Use the "third best game in the franchise so far" trope 
Not even close. It's worst DA game. But not worst RPG.
Husssh there don't say "DA:I is the worst game in the series", that offends the fangirls.
Use the "third best game in the franchise so far" trope
Oops, my bad! Shhhh...
While it's not my favourite RPG of all time I'd say it's a great one. The characters are deep and three dimensional, flawed just like real people. The relationships - friendships, romances, and negative ones as well are fairly immersive and feel natural. The storyline itself is well written and I really like the concept. There are some truly wonderful breaks from typical RPGs (the winter palace amoung other things) that make the game stand out in my mind. It's beautiful and immersive graphically as well.
It's also extremely flawed in its own way. I love the game but there are things about it that stick in my craw. Why make such an amazing story when I spent 90% of the game doing things completely unrelated to it? Beautiful scenery starts to become dull when you've been running around it for 20 hours trying to do a bunch of fetch quests that seem insignificant.
Had they just trimmed out at least 1/3 of the mindless repetitive quests I feel the game would have been better.
All that said, it's still a wonderful game and definitely in my top 10.
Ignore all the asshats. There are several people in here that I know just post to cause trouble or because they're bitter. I don't know why they even bother interacting on the Bioware forums if they're just going to hate on everything Bioware does. Might as well go play other games and ignore those fans.
Not the best, because Origins is better. But I like Inquisition anyway. It has a few problems, like broken quests, but hopefully that will be resolved in the near future.
Pffftt, yea right.
DA:I isn't even the best looking RPG game out, that title goes to Witcher 2.
DA:I is lacking in RPG mechanics that the first two games had, and because of that it will never be the greatest RPG ever made and people that think like that - think like you OP, must be half-wits.
Let's not get personal, OK? Everyone is entitled to their opinion whether or not it seems legitimate to you. Personal insults are not cool.
I could for example suggest you get your eyes examined if you really believe The Witcher 2 has better graphics fidelity than DAI, but I'm not going to do that, because it may well be how you perceive it.
Let's not get personal, OK? Everyone is entitled to their opinion whether or not it seems legitimate to you. Personal insults are not cool.
I could for example suggest you get your eyes examined if you really believe The Witcher 2 has better graphics fidelity than DAI, but I'm not going to do that, because it may well be how you perceive it.
Husssh there don't say "DA:I is the worst game in the series", that offends the fangirls.
Use the "third best game in the franchise so far" trope
OP
There is so much ridiculous semi-trolling whinging going on about this game on these boards, and it's really frustrating me. Especially since much of it is clearly coming from people who are playing this game to death...
Welcome to BSN.
Bah, yet another poster who feels the need to decide what criticism is "objectively (un)warranted".
Look, for you it's the best RPG you've ever played, which is about as spongy a statement as can be, but whatever -- that's great. I'm truly happy for you.
The Bioware team has done incredibly good work in level design, graphics, and audio. That's as far as my agreement goes. The rest of the game -- which sadly comprises the far more important parts such as (story / character) writing, game design, lore, etc. -- is just about average (if we're kind about it), and certainly not "the best". I'm not going to make yet another list of the numerous issues the game has; we have had fantastic threads on this board already that go far beyond your ridiculously narrow perception, e.g. http://forum.bioware.com/topic/546845-its-just-boring-why-bioware-this-isnt-you/, http://forum.bioware.com/topic/521662-lets-throw-some-tomatoes-shall-we-general-feedback-and-suggestions/, http://forum.bioware.com/topic/545735-keep-different-cultures-different-keep-the-qunari-as-qunari-you-cant-tackle-issues-without-prejudice/, http://forum.bioware.com/topic/522528-pc-community-bug-list-opinions/, just to name a few.
Edit/PS: On a very personal and serious note, DA:I has almost brought tears to my eyes. The brilliant, memorable moments of excellent writing (I can remember so many scenes from previous DA titles or from ME almost verbatim, because they were so good!) have given way to a bland mush that left me uninspired, hollow even. When I read statements by the Bioware executives that a- they want to do even "more Skyrim", which shows a shocking disregard for their very own traditional strengths, and that b- they still think DA:I is "too difficult" and needs further pruning, I just want to switch off my PC altogether. I'm honestly dejected that after almost 20 years 'together', shaped by NWN (esp. HotU), DAx, MEx and others, my favourite game studio and I are going separate ways. Still, even though they/you probably won't read this: Thank you for those 20 years, Bioware. They were awesome. "Had to be you -- somebody else would have gotten it wrong."
Kudos!
And you are not alone on this. But you knew that, alright ...
You need to get your eyes checked if you think DA:I looks better than Witcher 2.
Wow, overly manly compensating avatar, fan of the "I'm such a macho man look at me every girl wants me here have some ****** and collect **** cards" series. Not surprised.
Don't get me wrong. I like the witcher series but aside from being unfaithful to the books it was also obviously made with nerdy boys in mind who love to see virtual sex scenes and feel like gift to all women.
cut scene wise wticher 2 was better,gameplay graphics DAI is better
Wow, overly manly compensating avatar, fan of the "I'm such a macho man look at me every girl wants me here have some ****** and collect **** cards" series. Not surprised.
Don't get me wrong. I like the witcher series but aside from being unfaithful to the books it was also obviously made with nerdy boys in mind who love to see virtual sex scenes and feel like gift to all women.
Its a good game. I loved it when I played it, and certainly defended it here on forums. But it did not get through as much as I hoped it would.
Personal opinion of course, but there is something missing, I'm not sure what it is, but it did not get as much under my skin as other past games did. Which is a shame really.
OP - you may be able to say that but personally, I can not. I posted in one of the patch threads that I was enjoying it. And I did. The farther I got into it the more unsatisfied I became with it. It isn't a horrible game. For me, that was DA2. At least in terms of Bioware games. The game is beautiful to look at. The execution feels shallow now and I am less intrigued with it than at first. I'll admit that.
Some say this was suppose to be another "Skyrim" like game. Well they achieved some of that. That isn't a good thing. Believe it or not there are plenty of RPG players that were not at all pleased with Skyrim. No matter HOW many copies it sold or how many sing its praises. Because that game delivered basically the same thing. A beautiful world that fell so short story wise and game mechanics wise it made you want to cry. So many things that made the games before Skyrim so great were stripped down to nothing. There were two areas I saw improvement, the rest was complete trash. I never finished the game. No matter how hard I tried and how many characters I made it was a complete disappointment to me.
For me an RPG MUST give me control of my character. It must let me use the abilities that I choose when I want to. Not some of them. ALL of them. It must let me decide where I put things in my character build. It must let me fail at my character build and enjoy success when I achieve a good build. I don't want decisions being made for me. The story needs to keep me engaged. I don't mind fetch quests that let me see the world as long as it has something to do with what's going on. There's other musts I could list but I think you get the idea.
Sadly what I have found in most recent games and I include Skyrim in that is that stripping down and streamlining things is the way of it now. No one has to think, just click and go.
Yes of course, everyone who was disappointed and has criticisms is a whiny baby and a troll but you op, your opinion is the pure and undeniable truth. Thank you so much for enlightening us with your wisdom.
I like DA:I a lot. I liked it from the beginning, but I find I like it better all the time.
It does give me some of that old feeling from BG and DA:O. The magic is back.
I wouldn't be challenged for finding things I don't particularly much appreciate in the game design though.
There's a lot I don't like, a lot of choices by the developers that I find disappointing. In fact if I made a list, it would sound like I hate this game. I don't like the combat. It's just irrelevant and tiresome action nonsense. I don't like the leveling or customization. It succeeds in being both too simple and too bothersome to learn. It's just very uninteresting. The very ugly, messy and confusing UI doesn't help. Speaking of uninteresting, confusing, and painfully awkward, don't get me started on crafting. I'm willing to blame a lot on the consolish UI though, for making it so annoying.
Speaking of UI, the PC interface is a scandal.
...And I've never liked the dialogue wheel, still don't. Or voiced PC.
While I applaud Bioware for bringing back the 'save the world' paradigm, I think they may have overdone the protagonist this time, just a tad, when they have people worshiping the PC.
But you gotta take the bad with the good. Morrowind was one of my favorite games of all time, but I would have no problems making up a similarly long list of things I thought could have been handled better. All games are heavily flawed.
So what do I like about the game? Well, there is actually a fair degree of role playing freedom. Enough. While DA2, for instance, was a pure movie game. And I like the characters and what remains of the gameplay (that I haven't criticized). I have fun when I play it, and I'm engaged.
Yes of course, everyone who was disappointed and has criticisms is a whiny baby and a troll but you op, your opinion is the pure and undeniable truth. Thank you so much for enlightening us with your wisdom.
I can't even defend some of the things the OP has said at this point. I don't understand why people have to get so aggressive over this. I mean, this is easy. Using you and I as an example:
We've known each other for almost a year. We've gotten along plenty of times in the past.
I know you were let down by the game, and has been disheartened by the company.
I know I was very pleased by the game, and have had faith restored in the company.
You don't insult me for liking the game.
I don't insult you for disliking the game.
Neither of us are right.
Neither of us are wrong.
We just have different opinions.
And we see no need to flame each other over it.
Being passionate in your convictions is fine. It's when fans of the game or folks that didn't like the game start flinging insults towards each other that the whole thing becomes pointless and stupid. I don't think those that dislike the game should automatically be called trolls anymore than fans of the game should be called sheep. The respect works both ways. If you (general) feel that some people are being too rude, use the ignore feature and don't feel bad about it.
Otherwise, complaining about the complainers never does much good.
complaining about complainers is at least 30% of the internet, ignoring porn
complaining about complainers is at least 30% of the internet, ignoring porn
That doesn't change my point though. 
Yes of course, everyone who was disappointed and has criticisms is a whiny baby and a troll but you op, your opinion is the pure and undeniable truth. Thank you so much for enlightening us with your wisdom.
I'm ok with this, but I have to point out that your not allowed to enlighten me without smores. It's, well kind of a long story but just thought I'd be sure that everyone was clear on the ground rules first.. lol
I can't even defend some of the things the OP has said at this point. I don't understand why people have to get so aggressive over this. I mean, this is easy. Using you and I as an example:
We've known each other for almost a year. We've gotten along plenty of times in the past.
I know you were let down by the game, and has been disheartened by the company.
I know I was very pleased by the game, and have had faith restored in the company.
You don't insult me for liking the game.
I don't insult you for disliking the game.
Neither of us are right.
Neither of us are wrong.
We just have different opinions.
And we see no need to flame each other over it.
Being passionate in your convictions is fine. It's when fans of the game or folks that didn't like the game start flinging insults towards each other that the whole thing becomes pointless and stupid. I don't think those that dislike the game should automatically be called trolls anymore than fans of the game should be called sheep. The respect works both ways. If you (general) feel that some people are being too rude, use the ignore feature and don't feel bad about it.
Otherwise, complaining about the complainers never does much good.
Well I've noticed lots of people get really aggressive about all sorts of things on the internet, and say things they would never say in a million years to someone's face. Funny how that works really. Me I try very hard to be every bit as much of a jerk in real life just to avoid that problem. Lol.
complaining about complainers is at least 30% of the internet, ignoring porn
So what we really need then is porn in which they complain about corporate greed and immorality. Bam. Total synergy. Lol
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