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[Corti78]

Mak89 wrote...

First of all I have to take back what I said earlier about how EVERYONE dissed you cause that's not true. Wrex was the only one to me who showed some emotion. I understand Anderson and Garrus and Liara knew you were alive prior to the run-ins but it still feels a lttle stale. And as for Liara goes what I don't get is why she can't open up and tell you her role in bringing you back. I mean, that would have helped, but instead I have to find out in forums or a comic book, just doesn't make sense.

I've repeated this alot in various topics lol.

To quote myself:

If you ask her about her anger toward shadow broker she tells you everything. How she had to take your body back from the shadow broker before he handed it over to the collectors.

It troubled and hurt her a lot to have to hand Shepard over to Cerberus given their reputation. But Cerberus told her they could rebuild Shepard and in her own words she said she "Couldn't let Shepard go." She was reluctant to reveal this info because she thinks Shepard would hate her for her decision, which is why she seemed so distant when meeting.

She's not hunting the shadow broker just for her friend, but also for what he was going to do to Shepard which she says.

If you mess up during the conversations with her you will miss this dialog option. In appears after finishing her 2nd hack quest. If you choose investigate and "Liara's Needs" It will end the conversation. If you choose investigate and "anger toward the shadow broker" you learn everything. She actually drops the whole cold/commando act and becomes normal Liara for that conversation.

Modifié par Corti78, 28 janvier 2010 - 11:28 .

[Eragondragonrider]

I think everyone is forgetting the run in with Ash on Horizon if she is you LI in ME1, the scene was pretty good and also the letter you get afterwords from her explains a lot.

[Sidac]

Yea I felt like crying a few times. Kaiden my tech / bio buddy never left my side in ME1 and when I saved him in the 1st run in with collectors he tells me to F off. Wrex is understandable but still sad. Liara has become odd somehow.

[Ranou]

I got to shoot conrad verner in the foot, i was pleased

[MICHELLE7]

DarchAngelDavid wrote...

MICHELLE7 wrote...


Another little thing that just ticked me off a minute ago was when I did the Zhu's hope quest on Illium. The Asari came on to Shepard and Shepard smiled one of those little smiles(the same kind that Kaidan and Ash gave Shep  when they became interested). It really made me mad. If I have the option of staying loyal to my LI why is my Shep acting like she's interested in other people and all you have to do is do the quest. You don't give her any indication you are interested whatsoever. 

I found that Sheperds reactions are all based on what you make him or her do.  When some one flirts with you he doesnt react in any way that you dont direct him or her to.  I ended many advances from others in the game and keep respectful of the one I did want to be with.  He only flirted when I told him too.  Also in the first game the character was the same way.  If I wanted to be the guy that sleep with everything and came on to everyone I could.  You define that.  It is one of the things that makes this game so great.

I'm assuming that you are referring to my last paragraph here...The thing with the Asari(the one who was the clone on Feros) had nothing to do with response. She simply asks you to get the colonists of Feros out of a bad contract that they got into and you go do it. When you come back to here to tell her that it's done she thanks you and when you say goodbye she comes on to you. End of story...there are no options to lead her on or turn her down...she's not a potential love interest. And none of that would bother me...except for the fact that they make it look like that Shepard is interested in her proposition by making her smile.

[MICHELLE7]

Corti78 wrote...

Bioware said they wanted to see how many people would cheat on their LI, well with how poor the ME1 LI were implemented in this I'd say majority will cheat.

I also heard one of them say that they thought most people would cheat on their LI's. I can't understand why they would do something like that to those fans who really like the romance part of the story and would have preferred to be with our old LI's. It's like they did a poor job on purpose knowing it would cause a majority to cheat. Kinda cruel if you ask me. If it was simply to garner some kind of emotion it only added to by detachment from the game. 

This also occurred to me...they went on and on about they had worked on the eyes and expressions in the eyes to help the characters convey emotions yet Shepard didn't really seem to react all that much on Horizon. One person said in another thread that Shep was stony-faced. Yet they go out of their way with the new characters even to the point that in the paragon Love scene with Jack she cries mascara. Again it feels like they are manipulating the players into cheating...my question is why.

On a side note...I've also heard them say that they wanted the love story to carry through to ME3 but that the love interest you started with may not be the love interest you end with. A lot of people are thinking that cheating in ME2 means that you will have conflict with your old LI from ME in ME3. I think it simply means that if you choose someone new in ME2... that's your new LI and you won't have Kaidan, Ash, or Liara in ME3 as a love interest at all. They could still play some sort of roll but I don't think they'll even be mentioned as a previous LI...why do I think that? Because the longer they go on with this the more complicated it gets to script. A confrontation scene between Shep and the old LI or a jealousy scene would just be more they would have to script.

I would love to be wrong about that. But I really think they'll have one storyline to wrap up the romance in the final game...(if we are lucky)maybe one for the paragon and one for the renegade. It may be like the Ash/Kaidan one is now...interchangeable with all the LI's. Same outcome with whoever you picked as your LI. Once again I think they'll simplify it due to scripting concerns.

[DarchAngelDavid]

Corti78 wrote...

Mak89 wrote...

First of all I have to take back what I said earlier about how EVERYONE dissed you cause that's not true. Wrex was the only one to me who showed some emotion. I understand Anderson and Garrus and Liara knew you were alive prior to the run-ins but it still feels a lttle stale. And as for Liara goes what I don't get is why she can't open up and tell you her role in bringing you back. I mean, that would have helped, but instead I have to find out in forums or a comic book, just doesn't make sense.

I've repeated this alot in various topics lol.

To quote myself:

If you ask her about her anger toward shadow broker she tells you everything. How she had to take your body back from the shadow broker before he handed it over to the collectors.

It troubled and hurt her a lot to have to hand Shepard over to Cerberus given their reputation. But Cerberus told her they could rebuild Shepard and in her own words she said she "Couldn't let Shepard go." She was reluctant to reveal this info because she thinks Shepard would hate her for her decision, which is why she seemed so distant when meeting.

She's not hunting the shadow broker just for her friend, but also for what he was going to do to Shepard which she says.

If you mess up during the conversations with her you will miss this dialog option. In appears after finishing her 2nd hack quest. If you choose investigate and "Liara's Needs" It will end the conversation. If you choose investigate and "anger toward the shadow broker" you learn everything. She actually drops the whole cold/commando act and becomes normal Liara for that conversation.

I said something very similar to this.  You understand her motivation to take care of this because she loves Shepherd so much.  Even if you didnt have a romantic realationship with her in the first game they have made it clear that she cares deeply for you regardless.  Her actions at the start of the game and her actions in the comic along with ME2 prove this fact.

Modifié par DarchAngelDavid, 29 janvier 2010 - 01:17 .

[BlackwindTheCommander]

Kaiden: now hates me even though he and I were best friends in ME1



Liara: I can't trust her and I am extremely saddened by her change. Luckily Miranda has given me somewhere to rest my weary head. hehehe



Wrex: Still awesome as hell! Me and him would prolly have spent a long night drinking and reminiscing if they'd let me.

[MICHELLE7]

Hey, for all you playing as malesheps that played Kaidan as your best friend...I was curious...did you also get an email from him? or femsheps who saved Ash?



Was kinda wondering if the carry over of Kaidan/Ash to ME3 would even be included if the Viremire survivor wasn't an LI?

[PSUHammer]

Eragondragonrider wrote...

I think everyone is forgetting the run in with Ash on Horizon if she is you LI in ME1, the scene was pretty good and also the letter you get afterwords from her explains a lot.

It was good...but my issue is Sheperd seems just "meh" about seeing her, too?  Kind of interesting.  I did think they would make it a little bit more of an emotional reunion.  Her reaction kind of made me want to go Indiana Jones/James Bond on her and bed Miranda in ME2, just to go back to Ashley in ME3.  LOL!

I thought the Garrus interaction was awesome and fitting when you meet him again.  Tali too, early on.

[ratzerman]

MICHELLE7 wrote...
I also heard one of them say that they thought most people would cheat on their LI's. I can't understand why they would do something like that to those fans who really like the romance part of the story and would have preferred to be with our old LI's. It's like they did a poor job on purpose knowing it would cause a majority to cheat. Kinda cruel if you ask me. If it was simply to garner some kind of emotion it only added to by detachment from the game. 

It's definitely cruel.  Whether it was done on purpose or not, we'll probably never know.  But the fact remains that those of us who still care about the original LIs are getting a big F-U from Bioware.  They can talk about wanting to "save" them for ME3 all they want, but it doesn't explain why they made them all so unlikable in this game.

I don't understand how any of this, especially their decision to bury Liara's breakdown and confession behind two one-chance-only dialog options.  I've lost count of the posts I've seen saying things like "Liara is cold" and "what happened to Liara?"  It's obvious most people aren't getting to the good ending of her quest, and it's really starting to bother me.  I don't want to believe that Bioware would sabotage her character that, but I can't think of another explanation.  Are they simply trying to drive comic sales?  And if so, couldn't they have thought of a better way to do it?

The cruelest part of all is that we'll have to wait another two or three years to find out what Bioware intends to do with these characters.  But as it stands right now, I have little reason to believe they won't be swept under the rug and forgotten about.  The way the roles of Liara, Ash, and Kaidan were written in this game, I don't see anyone but their most hardcore fans remaining loyal to them anyway.

[Badpie]

ratzerman wrote...

MICHELLE7 wrote...
I also heard one of them say that they thought most people would cheat on their LI's. I can't understand why they would do something like that to those fans who really like the romance part of the story and would have preferred to be with our old LI's. It's like they did a poor job on purpose knowing it would cause a majority to cheat. Kinda cruel if you ask me. If it was simply to garner some kind of emotion it only added to by detachment from the game. 

It's definitely cruel.  Whether it was done on purpose or not, we'll probably never know.  But the fact remains that those of us who still care about the original LIs are getting a big F-U from Bioware.  They can talk about wanting to "save" them for ME3 all they want, but it doesn't explain why they made them all so unlikable in this game.

I don't understand how any of this, especially their decision to bury Liara's breakdown and confession behind two one-chance-only dialog options.  I've lost count of the posts I've seen saying things like "Liara is cold" and "what happened to Liara?"  It's obvious most people aren't getting to the good ending of her quest, and it's really starting to bother me.  I don't want to believe that Bioware would sabotage her character that, but I can't think of another explanation.  Are they simply trying to drive comic sales?  And if so, couldn't they have thought of a better way to do it?

The cruelest part of all is that we'll have to wait another two or three years to find out what Bioware intends to do with these characters.  But as it stands right now, I have little reason to believe they won't be swept under the rug and forgotten about.  The way the roles of Liara, Ash, and Kaidan were written in this game, I don't see anyone but their most hardcore fans remaining loyal to them anyway.

I think it was done on purpose but not at all as an F-U from Bioware.  Think about it.  They knew perfectly well that everyone would have a strong response to the way they handled the love interests from the first game.  And that was the point! They WANT you to be hurt and confused and angry and frustrated and maybe even a little vindictive, maybe even a little tempted to assuage your anger and sadness by running to the arms of another.  Because that's what Shepard is feeling.  All I know is this is how I felt after meeting Ash:  OMG ASH!  SO HAPPY!  okay this is a little awkward but who cares?  ASH!  .....WTF ASH?!  **** YOU!  WAIT DON'T GO!  NO GO!  I HATE YOU!  WAIT I LOVE YOU!  Okay fine.  Bye.  Sigh.  It says a lot for the writing when you're actually feeling exactly what your character is supposed to be feeling.

This is a really ambitious and risky move that they've taken that could end up being one of the most amazing love stories or they could drop the ball and give us crap in the 3rd installment.  They're asking for a lot of faith from their loyal fans.  Personally, I predict awesomeness, but I understand why some people are frustrated.

[PSUHammer]

Plus...I think they are aiming slyly at the James Bond/Indy romance vibe of a different one in each chapter. I could be wrong, but how else could you explain it?

[MICHELLE7]

ratzerman wrote...

MICHELLE7 wrote...
I also heard one of them say that they thought most people would cheat on their LI's. I can't understand why they would do something like that to those fans who really like the romance part of the story and would have preferred to be with our old LI's. It's like they did a poor job on purpose knowing it would cause a majority to cheat. Kinda cruel if you ask me. If it was simply to garner some kind of emotion it only added to by detachment from the game. 

It's definitely cruel.  Whether it was done on purpose or not, we'll probably never know.  But the fact remains that those of us who still care about the original LIs are getting a big F-U from Bioware.  They can talk about wanting to "save" them for ME3 all they want, but it doesn't explain why they made them all so unlikable in this game.

I don't understand how any of this, especially their decision to bury Liara's breakdown and confession behind two one-chance-only dialog options.  I've lost count of the posts I've seen saying things like "Liara is cold" and "what happened to Liara?"  It's obvious most people aren't getting to the good ending of her quest, and it's really starting to bother me.  I don't want to believe that Bioware would sabotage her character that, but I can't think of another explanation.  Are they simply trying to drive comic sales?  And if so, couldn't they have thought of a better way to do it?

The cruelest part of all is that we'll have to wait another two or three years to find out what Bioware intends to do with these characters.  But as it stands right now, I have little reason to believe they won't be swept under the rug and forgotten about.  The way the roles of Liara, Ash, and Kaidan were written in this game, I don't see anyone but their most hardcore fans remaining loyal to them anyway.

I went back and played Liara's quest and got the good ending but the whole thing still seemed lacking. The conversation wasn't in-depth at all. And despite the fact you get to see a flicker of the old Liara...the assassin(I'll kill them with my mind bit) was over the top weird. She was my favorite character after Kaidan...I really hate to see her that way.

[MICHELLE7]

Badpie wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

MICHELLE7 wrote...
I also heard one of them say that they thought most people would cheat on their LI's. I can't understand why they would do something like that to those fans who really like the romance part of the story and would have preferred to be with our old LI's. It's like they did a poor job on purpose knowing it would cause a majority to cheat. Kinda cruel if you ask me. If it was simply to garner some kind of emotion it only added to by detachment from the game. 

It's definitely cruel.  Whether it was done on purpose or not, we'll probably never know.  But the fact remains that those of us who still care about the original LIs are getting a big F-U from Bioware.  They can talk about wanting to "save" them for ME3 all they want, but it doesn't explain why they made them all so unlikable in this game.

I don't understand how any of this, especially their decision to bury Liara's breakdown and confession behind two one-chance-only dialog options.  I've lost count of the posts I've seen saying things like "Liara is cold" and "what happened to Liara?"  It's obvious most people aren't getting to the good ending of her quest, and it's really starting to bother me.  I don't want to believe that Bioware would sabotage her character that, but I can't think of another explanation.  Are they simply trying to drive comic sales?  And if so, couldn't they have thought of a better way to do it?

The cruelest part of all is that we'll have to wait another two or three years to find out what Bioware intends to do with these characters.  But as it stands right now, I have little reason to believe they won't be swept under the rug and forgotten about.  The way the roles of Liara, Ash, and Kaidan were written in this game, I don't see anyone but their most hardcore fans remaining loyal to them anyway.

I think it was done on purpose but not at all as an F-U from Bioware.  Think about it.  They knew perfectly well that everyone would have a strong response to the way they handled the love interests from the first game.  And that was the point! They WANT you to be hurt and confused and angry and frustrated and maybe even a little vindictive, maybe even a little tempted to assuage your anger and sadness by running to the arms of another.  Because that's what Shepard is feeling.  All I know is this is how I felt after meeting Ash:  OMG ASH!  SO HAPPY!  okay this is a little awkward but who cares?  ASH!  .....WTF ASH?!  **** YOU!  WAIT DON'T GO!  NO GO!  I HATE YOU!  WAIT I LOVE YOU!  Okay fine.  Bye.  Sigh.  It says a lot for the writing when you're actually feeling exactly what your character is supposed to be feeling.

This is a really ambitious and risky move that they've taken that could end up being one of the most amazing love stories or they could drop the ball and give us crap in the 3rd installment.  They're asking for a lot of faith from their loyal fans.  Personally, I predict awesomeness, but I understand why some people are frustrated.

It is a risky move that will probably turn some people off to the third game. Still not everyone is directing there anger or hurt toward's the old LI...some of it is being directed towards Bioware and despite the fact that it may lead to an excellent outcome in the future...it'll take at least 2 years to have ME3 on the shelves. Like Ratzerman said...that's a long wait. Might work okay for a TV show when you can tune in next week to see if the couple get back together or even tune in next season...but in a game that takes two years? It is a big gamble and if they don't come up with something amazing it really could damage their reputation in some people's eyes.

Now on a different note...has anyone gotten anything with Ashley with her helmet yet. There was that spoiler of Ash in her helmet with Shep looking out a window and it looked like he was remembering her or something like that. I was just wondering if anyone had come across it yet.

Also on my run through with Kaidan I got a little more info on why he acted so angry towards Cerberus(more so than what some people thought he should). I went and talked to Anderson and there was a topic about Kaidan on Horizon. 

It seems he(and this would apply to Ash as well) was sent to Horizon with an underlying mission of finding out if Cerberus was behind the disappearances of the colonies. If Kaidan(and Ash) thought that Cerberus was behind it and just happened to see Shep standing there with Cerberus right after the colony was abducted...well I guess you can imagine what was going through their minds. They are thrilled to see Shep again but shocked to realize that she/he might be working with an organization they believe might be responsible for the disappearances. Really hits home with what Kaidan said in his email about seeing femshep standing there with Cerberus. 

Again, however...this is something you have to go and look for to find. Anderson and Shep's words are a little sharp in the exchange but he does tell her that Cerberus was cleared after the incident. Oh, and it seems the Li is right back where Shep was in ME...trying to convince the council that the reapers are behind it...and yes the council doesn't believe them.

[Badpie]

MICHELLE7 wrote...

[
Also on my run through with Kaidan I got a little more info on why he acted so angry towards Cerberus(more so than what some people thought he should). I went and talked to Anderson and there was a topic about Kaidan on Horizon. 

It seems he(and this would apply to Ash as well) was sent to Horizon with an underlying mission of finding out if Cerberus was behind the disappearances of the colonies. If Kaidan(and Ash) thought that Cerberus was behind it and just happened to see Shep standing there with Cerberus right after the colony was abducted...well I guess you can imagine what was going through their minds. They are thrilled to see Shep again but shocked to realize that she/he might be working with an organization they believe might be responsible for the disappearances. Really hits home with what Kaidan said in his email about seeing femshep standing there with Cerberus. 

Again, however...this is something you have to go and look for to find. Anderson and Shep's words are a little sharp in the exchange but he does tell her that Cerberus was cleared after the incident. Oh, and it seems the Li is right back where Shep was in ME...trying to convince the council that the reapers are behind it...and yes the council doesn't believe them.

Thank you for saying this!  I hadn't thought to go speak with Anderson.  NOW I WILL!

[PSUHammer]

MICHELLE7 wrote...

Now on a different note...has anyone gotten anything with Ashley with her helmet yet. There was that spoiler of Ash in her helmet with Shep looking out a window and it looked like he was remembering her or something like that. I was just wondering if anyone had come across it yet.

Also on my run through with Kaidan I got a little more info on why he acted so angry towards Cerberus(more so than what some people thought he should). I went and talked to Anderson and there was a topic about Kaidan on Horizon. 

It seems he(and this would apply to Ash as well) was sent to Horizon with an underlying mission of finding out if Cerberus was behind the disappearances of the colonies. If Kaidan(and Ash) thought that Cerberus was behind it and just happened to see Shep standing there with Cerberus right after the colony was abducted...well I guess you can imagine what was going through their minds. They are thrilled to see Shep again but shocked to realize that she/he might be working with an organization they believe might be responsible for the disappearances. Really hits home with what Kaidan said in his email about seeing femshep standing there with Cerberus. 

Again, however...this is something you have to go and look for to find. Anderson and Shep's words are a little sharp in the exchange but he does tell her that Cerberus was cleared after the incident. Oh, and it seems the Li is right back where Shep was in ME...trying to convince the council that the reapers are behind it...and yes the council doesn't believe them.

I think the scene you are mentioning happens in the prologue when the LI is trying to stay with Shep on the original Normandy and they run up to him as he is putting his helmet on.  He then tells them to get off the ship with everyone else while he goes after Joker...so, if you played the game at all, you saw this at the beginning.

[Badpie]

Hammer6767 wrote...

MICHELLE7 wrote...

Now on a different note...has anyone gotten anything with Ashley with her helmet yet. There was that spoiler of Ash in her helmet with Shep looking out a window and it looked like he was remembering her or something like that. I was just wondering if anyone had come across it yet.

Also on my run through with Kaidan I got a little more info on why he acted so angry towards Cerberus(more so than what some people thought he should). I went and talked to Anderson and there was a topic about Kaidan on Horizon. 

It seems he(and this would apply to Ash as well) was sent to Horizon with an underlying mission of finding out if Cerberus was behind the disappearances of the colonies. If Kaidan(and Ash) thought that Cerberus was behind it and just happened to see Shep standing there with Cerberus right after the colony was abducted...well I guess you can imagine what was going through their minds. They are thrilled to see Shep again but shocked to realize that she/he might be working with an organization they believe might be responsible for the disappearances. Really hits home with what Kaidan said in his email about seeing femshep standing there with Cerberus. 

Again, however...this is something you have to go and look for to find. Anderson and Shep's words are a little sharp in the exchange but he does tell her that Cerberus was cleared after the incident. Oh, and it seems the Li is right back where Shep was in ME...trying to convince the council that the reapers are behind it...and yes the council doesn't believe them.

I think the scene you are mentioning happens in the prologue when the LI is trying to stay with Shep on the original Normandy and they run up to him as he is putting his helmet on.  He then tells them to get off the ship with everyone else while he goes after Joker...so, if you played the game at all, you saw this at the beginning.

I know what footage Michelle is talking about.  It isn't this.  It's this weird elusive footage that was seen in the background of some ME2 event.  It was clearly Ash and Shepard talking but it was also clearly NOT the opening scene.  Weird right?

[ratzerman]

Badpie wrote...

I know what footage Michelle is talking about.  It isn't this.  It's this weird elusive footage that was seen in the background of some ME2 event.  It was clearly Ash and Shepard talking but it was also clearly NOT the opening scene.  Weird right?

Yeah, it's definitely not the opening scene.  I have a feeling this footage is going to haunt us for awhile.

[PSUHammer]

Badpie wrote...

I know what footage Michelle is talking about.  It isn't this.  It's this weird elusive footage that was seen in the background of some ME2 event.  It was clearly Ash and Shepard talking but it was also clearly NOT the opening scene.  Weird right?

Ah...exactly why I avoided all pre release spoiler stuff. 

[Kittykat1984]

okay, I'll admit I'm not the most emotional person, but I think alot of you are giving way to much concern over the ME1 LIs in ME2. As has been pointed out its been 2 years seventeen days since you died before you even return to the citadel. The average grieve time before someone moves on from my understanding is six months to a year? That means Kaiden, and Ashley could have spent nine months to a year and a half in another relationship, depending on how well they handle grief. If you ran into an ex that you thought died, well you were in a relationship, would you be all lovie dovey toward them? Especially if you had heard that they were working for what effectively is the enemy in your eyes? Or would you be hostile that they had cut you out of their lives for two whole years, not bothered to contact you even after they woke up, and were now working for a terrorist cell that has killed not only millions of aliens but thousands humans. In Kaiden's eyes you also have the complication, of the fact he's likely the direct result of Cerberus's efforts to make biotics, namely blowing up freighters in mid flight over major communities. Its a lot to take in at once, and how long do you talk to him? 5 minutes? ten? Now back to the email, if he is in a relationship, would he want to write something overly emotional in an email, that could easily come back to bite him in the ass. six months can make you very close to someone. I got the impression that Sheperd and Kaiden only were in a relationship at most 3 and a half months. yes he may love her, but he also has these feelings of betrayal, heartbreak, fear, anger, rage, confusion, conflicts of loyalty, and many more going on all at once. His instinctive response at the time would likely be hostile, and 'over emotional' as Sheperd can tell him. I think perhaps you should all take a step back and look at this from the outside as if they were real people, and their possible motives for their behavior?

[Badpie]

Kittykat1984 wrote...

okay, I'll admit I'm not the most emotional person, but I think alot of you are giving way to much concern over the ME1 LIs in ME2. As has been pointed out its been 2 years seventeen days since you died before you even return to the citadel. The average grieve time before someone moves on from my understanding is six months to a year? That means Kaiden, and Ashley could have spent nine months to a year and a half in another relationship, depending on how well they handle grief. If you ran into an ex that you thought died, well you were in a relationship, would you be all lovie dovey toward them? Especially if you had heard that they were working for what effectively is the enemy in your eyes? Or would you be hostile that they had cut you out of their lives for two whole years, not bothered to contact you even after they woke up, and were now working for a terrorist cell that has killed not only millions of aliens but thousands humans. In Kaiden's eyes you also have the complication, of the fact he's likely the direct result of Cerberus's efforts to make biotics, namely blowing up freighters in mid flight over major communities. Its a lot to take in at once, and how long do you talk to him? 5 minutes? ten? Now back to the email, if he is in a relationship, would he want to write something overly emotional in an email, that could easily come back to bite him in the ass. six months can make you very close to someone. I got the impression that Sheperd and Kaiden only were in a relationship at most 3 and a half months. yes he may love her, but he also has these feelings of betrayal, heartbreak, fear, anger, rage, confusion, conflicts of loyalty, and many more going on all at once. His instinctive response at the time would likely be hostile, and 'over emotional' as Sheperd can tell him. I think perhaps you should all take a step back and look at this from the outside as if they were real people, and their possible motives for their behavior?

I think they're perfectly justified in their behavior toward Shepard and it makes perfect sense, but I don't know what you mean when you say we're "giving way to much concern over the ME1 LIs in ME2."  Do you mean that we just shouldn't care about them because oh well, it's been two years and nevermind how Shepard might have felt about them or them about Shepard?  Or do you mean people are freaking out too much about the things Ash and Kaidan said to Shepard?

[PSUHammer]

All this talk reminds me of the movie Cast Away with Tom Hanks....just saying.

[SkywardDescent]

Wrex's was nice, but they dropped the ball on Ash's/Kaidan's and Liara's.

[Pabloescobar20]

Funniest part was the fact that Liara didn't care enough about you to even investigate the ship that attacked Normandy or even take revenge. Even though she was my love interest and a trusted member of the team that shared a deep connection with me.



But instead, she decides to kill The Shadow Broker because he murdered her no name friend that she only knew for a year or two. It's like me forgetting about some guy that killed my wife but then going after someone who murdered a co-worker i only knew for a short time.