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[Teddie Sage]

So... have you actually played it?

Watched streams for the past 24 hours, I can already tell I won't like the outdated gameplay.

[Teddie Sage]

That's not true.  BioWare and Bethesda have tons of content involving reading.  Though most people have the attention span of a fish and won't take 5 seconds to read anything that goes beyond two sentences(at the most), so therefore the devs give the option of skipping these.

Newsflash, not everyone read the codex entries from Dragon Age games. I always skip those as they ruin my fun whenever I'm in the middle of a fight. Edit: Which is basically what you just said.

[Han Yolo]

I didn't like what I saw so far and I'm glad Bioware moved away from those kinda games.

Cinematics and voice over belong to the most important things in games for me. Don't care much for combat and thus the classics with their butt slow fights and super complicated skill system become annoying very fast. 

But I like watching films more than reading books, too. Yeah, I'm one of those people.

[SofaJockey]

Sorry if my opinion doesn't join yours people, it looks like it belongs in the 90s and should remain there. Too much stuff to read, barely any voice acting and slow sort of gameplay. Not my cup of tea. Like, it's cool if people like it, but to me who never been a PC player, I don't understand the hype and the nostalgia. I don't understand how people enjoy this type of game which is too slow and forces you to read for hours stuff that pop on the screen. If I wanted to read something, I'd open up a book. "Believe it or not, this is the type of game BioWare used to make," someone will tell me. Well, guess what... I'm glad they stopped.

 

This is about right (and I played Baldur's Gate and older games the first time. many times).

Ok, PoE looks gorgeous and the end point of the BG evolutionary tree.

But DAI is much more fun for me rather than hard work.

Not knocking PoE but I've kind of been there and done it.

 

And no BioWare should carry on the way they are going and PoE can carry on its thing.

 

Play the game you want to play.

(and ideally spend your time in the forum of the game you like too, though that would be too much to hope for).

[Dio Demon]

Sorry if my opinion doesn't join yours people, it looks like it belongs in the 90s and should remain there. Too much stuff to read, barely any voice acting and slow sort of gameplay. Not my cup of tea. Like, it's cool if people like it, but to me who never been a PC player, I don't understand the hype and the nostalgia. I don't understand how people enjoy this type of game which is too slow and forces you to read for hours stuff that pop on the screen. If I wanted to read something, I'd open up a book. "Believe it or not, this is the type of game BioWare used to make," someone will tell me. Well, guess what... I'm glad they stopped.

If you didn't understand the hype and nostalgia why even care about posting in here? It seems like you're trying to be a hipster by coming on here and putting everyone down or at least want some attention

 

To be fair I was kinda expecting the  game to fall flat. I'm glad it didn't, I'll pick it up one day. In the meantime can someone loot everything for me >.>

 

And as Syvius the Mad said "A good RPG is boring to watch but fun to play" (I'm paraphrasing a bit)

[Eelectrica]

In some of my favorite games you had to type commands.

Yeah done that too.

Even as recently as SR:Dragonfall had sections where the correct text had to be input, instead of having a simple multiple choice guess the correct answer for those that couldn't be bothered walking a few steps to the next room.

[Teddie Sage]

If you didn't understand the hype and nostalgia why even care about posting in here? It seems like you're trying to be a hipster by coming on here and putting everyone down or at least want some attention

 

To be fair I was kinda expecting the  game to fall flat. I'm glad it didn't, I'll pick it up one day. In the meantime can someone loot everything for me >.>

 

And as Syvius the Mad said "A good RPG is boring to watch but fun to play" (I'm paraphrasing a bit)

Well that's because I am some sort of hipster (and I don't hide it) and I do agree with Sylvius... even though it's not the sort of game I would play. Too... meh... I don't know, if the game was ported on consoles miraculously or if there was a PC demo, I would probably try it. So far, from what I've seen, I'm not impressed with the slow gameplay style. It's like watching people streaming visual novels. 

[Rawgrim]

Yeah done that too.

Even as recently as SR:Dragonfall had sections where the correct text had to be input, instead of having a simple multiple choice guess the correct answer for those that couldn't be bothered walking a few steps to the next room.

 

 I haven't played that game yet either. I did try out Wasteland 2 for a bit, but put it aside. Mostly been playing point and click adventure games for the last 6 months. Now I am in full rpg mode, though. So its actually great to have several games about that I haven't played through yet.

[Eelectrica]

Watched streams for the past 24 hours, I can already tell I won't like the outdated gameplay.

I suppose one persons outdated gameplay is anothers timeless gameplay.

And PoE's combat isn't slow. Not that there's anything wrong with a 'slow' turn based system. X-com proves that - So much tension in getting everything set, and praying that something from left field doesn't make everything come undone or one missed high percentage shot...

[Teddie Sage]

I suppose one persons outdated gameplay is anothers timeless gameplay.

And PoE's combat isn't slow. Not that there's anything wrong with a 'slow' turn based system. X-com proves that - So much tension in getting everything set, and praying that something from left field doesn't make everything come undone or one missed high percentage shot...

It's a lot of pauses and clicks, pauses and clicks. I prefer dynamic gameplay.

[Ashagar]

I am playing Pillars of eternity and yes it is quite good but a number of kids these days may find it too hard as it won't hold their hands, requires them to use their brain and isn't mindless hack and slash or shooting. If you liked Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, Planescape Torment, Neverwinter Nights, Divinity: original sin and other CRPGs you will most  likely like this game.

[Eelectrica]

Well that's because I am some sort of hipster (and I don't hide it) and I do agree with Sylvius... even though it's not the sort of game I would play. Too... meh... I don't know, if the game was ported on consoles miraculously or if there was a PC demo, I would probably try it. So far, from what I've seen, I'm not impressed with the slow gameplay style. It's like watching people streaming visual novels. 

Fair call on the demo hopefully they can put something together. To be honest I think it's a game that has to be played rather than watch someone play.

[SofaJockey]

If you didn't understand the hype and nostalgia why even care about posting in here? It seems like you're trying to be a hipster by coming on here and putting everyone down or at least want some attention

 

Very simple answer, if this was a thread about enjoying what looks to be a very well crafted game it would be in the Lobby (off topic) section and I may well play it myself at some point.

 

But no, this is the feedback section and the tone of the OP is to whine at BioWare for not being PoE.

 

That is why some come back is legitimate. If this thread was in the Lobby (off topic) section, such comment would be less appropriate.

[Dio Demon]

Well that's because I am some sort of hipster (and I don't hide it) and I do agree with Sylvius... even though it's not the sort of game I would play. Too... meh... I don't know, if the game was ported on consoles miraculously or if there was a PC demo, I would probably try it. So far, from what I've seen, I'm not impressed with the slow gameplay style. It's like watching people streaming visual novels. 

 

Watched streams for the past 24 hours, I can already tell I won't like the outdated gameplay.

That might have something to do with it.

 

Slow would be Dragon Age: Origins. POE (from what I've seen) focuses more on strategy and planning. There is a massive difference between slow and strategy and planning.

 

Imagine playing X-Com with DA:I style speed O.o

[Dio Demon]

Very simple answer, if this was a thread about enjoying what looks to be a very well crafted game it would be in the Lobby (off topic) section and I may well play it myself at some point.

 

But no, this is the feedback section and the tone of the OP is to whine at BioWare for not being PoE.

 

That is why some come back is legitimate. If this thread was in the Lobby (off topic) section, such comment would be less appropriate.

I just figured he got lost

[Teddie Sage]

This reminds me X-Com is cheap now... I should try it someday... Not sure I will like it, but it's cheap, come on.

[Kroitz]

... BioWare should carry on the way they are going and PoE can carry on its thing.

 

Play the game you want to play.

 

I think that´s how it should be.

 

I didn´t enjoy DA:I and stopped playing it but I don´t think it has to cater to my taste and should just be it´s own thing,

for the gamers that enjoy it´s direction.

 

PoE is more to my liking when it comes to a party-based RPG and I can enjoy it without pointing fingers at BioWare. Live and let live.

[Dio Demon]

I suppose one persons outdated gameplay is anothers timeless gameplay.

And PoE's combat isn't slow. Not that there's anything wrong with a 'slow' turn based system. X-com proves that - So much tension in getting everything set, and praying that something from left field doesn't make everything come undone or one missed high percentage shot...

Oh god. I can remember the stress when something comes out of left field and you lose half you men all because you forgot to cover your flank....

[Rawgrim]

This reminds me X-Com is cheap now... I should try it someday... Not sure I will like it, but it's cheap, come on.

 

Xcom was actually pretty damn good. Great replay value in it as well.

[Innsmouth Dweller]

@Teddie Sage

it's an rpg, you have to choose your own path and play it yourself. watching someone else doing it, it's like watching a really boring movie someone reading a book

 

it's not nostalgia. it's another type of game.

 

but i agree with most posters - this topic doesn't belong here.

[Naesaki]

Oh god. I can remember the stress when something comes out of left field and you lose half you men all because you forgot to cover your flank....

I had so many dark moments in X-COM Enemy within, bloody chrysalids.....stop turning my people into zombies! 

[Teddie Sage]

cRPGs for me are very different than what BioWare has to offer these days and what I'm used to with JPRGs, so to me RPGs have many roots. Just happens that the cRPG branch is my least favourite, I figure.

[Dubya75]

it's too complicated to play. and you need to read stuff... and combat is slow and boring. besides... isometric view? it's 2015 ffs, hello

 

Yeah I kind of agree with you there.

 

Although I recognise the love and care that went into that game (just imagine if the same love and care went into things like the DAI UI...), the zoomed out isometric view and the text-based thing seems a little tedious to me.

I'm already finding codex reading in DAI a bit too much.

 

As far as story and characters are concerned, again, I am sure PoE is providing a level of excellence there far beyond what DAI provides, but I just can't see myself playing that game.

 

DAI has all the systems in place. Fantastic graphics, excellent characters, stellar voice acting, crafting system, etc etc. The thing that makes DAI a failure is the lack of SOUL in the game. A severe lack of story content, a feeling of complete disconnect from the protagonist as well as the characters.

Just think about the character development of the Warden and even of Hawke. 

The Inquisitor? No character development at all.

 

The game feels absolutely hollow. Nothing memorable beyond the beautiful visuals.

Repetitive content. Boring content. Fetch quests. shards. Astrariums....too much of the same stuff repeated again and again and again.

DAI is driven not by story progression, but by collecting stuff. 

 

And this is why PoE and most likely, The Witcher 3, will be huge successes as RPG games. They have the right kind of CONTENT.

[Spooky81]

 

but i agree with most posters - this topic doesn't belong here.

 

I don't see why not.  This is a feedback forum and devs with Obsidian, BioWare and the team that produced PoE use to work together.  These boards even have a forum for NWN2 which was developed by Obsidian Entertainment.

 

While there's nothing wrong with posting an opinion about BioWare straying from their core RPG roots, it's obvious they're now cemented to action RPGs and have chosen the fast pace, arcade like market as their target demographic.

[Venti]

Well...Young One....then maybe you will never understand why Dragon Age Origins is and remains an absolute classic. And yes,,,reading is a necessary life skill,,,even for enjoyment something as  modern as a videogame it seems!!

The condescending is strong in this one! It's almost like we're not reading right at this second. Games have always required the ability to read, even ones made for kids; just look at Pokemon.

 

So... have you actually played it?

So....have you heard of youtube? The place with the walkthroughs and reviews and hours of pure gameplay? You don't need to play a game to know if its your thing or not, which is great because otherwise we'd all waste so much money on games we would hate.