It is. It's just a thread disguised to bash BioWare and for the old fashioned fans to gather and feel like the nostalgia is the only way they'll be satisfied with their gaming life. However, we also seen a few fans of the new style BioWare is using for the series while also appreciating PoE.
"This is how you start a 'Just Finished Witcher 3 - This is how RPGs are done Bioware!"-Thread".
Just you wait until May. The mods'll have a field day.
What a person could want more than a game that dumb people won't play? That's part of the perfection of the game. No risk of running into dumbs.
The light of perfection purge the worthless only the worthy can touch it.
PoE is still too mainstream, but it balances well with quality. It brights like the blade of a paladin slaying the demon of dumbness.
I'm a few hours in and already made several choices, one I think will bite me in the ass later. Met some interesting companions, and got a shythole Keep to fix up. lol!! I admit that I'm not a fan of the isometric camera but I'm getting used to it. The voice acting is really good. I just wish my character spoke.
I'm also not sure how I feel about the whole "PC is special." story that seems to be developing. But I'm not that far in to judge the story completely.
If Pillars had DAI graphics and DAO controls and camera, along with a voiced PC I would....
Um, I actually think the over fancy graphics may ruin it. There are things that are much better conveyed with carefully written words than with fancy animation. Things like character emotions, really subtle movements, other things like wind for example. These things would take too much time and resources to animate and do properly and will never have the same impact, imho.
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Just because DA:I isn't for you doesn't mean BioWare doesn't care about it and its fans.
I never said they didn't. All I said was that Inquisition was certainly not made "by PC gamers, for PC gamers," while Pillars was.
I kinda get where you're coming from. BioWare may have had that intention but it didn't turn out that way. We all know they tried since it's a better port? Than most, BioWare just kinda screwed up with the controls which are the most important part of a game.
Watched streams for the past 24 hours, I can already tell I won't like the outdated gameplay.
Yeah streams wont give you the same gameplay affect but i agree each to their own, i love movie experience type games as well (absolutely loving Dying Light) but i grew up on games that made you read as well as play like Baldurs Gate 1 and 2, Icewind dales, Torment, Fallout series and Temple of elemental evil etc..
So obviously PoE has a soft spot in the genre for me.
Those games while graphically different made their characters just as exciting as any Dragon Age did, the humor and the companion drama's we see today in Inquisition started in those games above.. How anyone could forget Minsc and Boo is beyond me
The best thing about Pillars of Eternity is that you can tell the developers truly cared about the thing they were creating.
Remember Bioware's whole "Made by PC gamers, for PC gamers"? That's what Pillars is, except without the irony.
Could not have said it any better myself. AMEN!!!!!
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While I'm absolutely loving PoE, especially the ranger with animal companion, I think this thread should be in a different forum. I feel its quite disrespectful towards DA:I developers to bring up PoE as a "modal RPG" in a feedback forum for THEIR game.
If you have any idea of how to disrespect them more, please teach me. I would love to. They disrespected me beyond redemption with the low quality of their products. PoE, Divinity and a lot others are perfect proof of how they could have done better.
Thanks your post is the perfect proof that a person that don't hate Inquisition is one unable to think properly as in understand anything other than the obvious writting Gaider and his friends make for the children (as in Inquisition).
And what about people like me, who love Inquisition and are enjoying Pillars of Eternity as well? Do we not exist? Are we magical unicorns?
(I hope we're magical unicorns.)
And what about people like me, who love Inquisition and are enjoying Pillars of Eternity as well? Do we not exist? Are we magical unicorns?
(I hope we're magical unicorns.)
Yes.
I fail to see why the Dragon Age franchise should be anything like Pillars Of Eternity. Both are different games, designed differently, so they can cater to those who have different preferences. Newsflash, not every RPG fan is a fan of isometric RPGs..
As for the reading part. I myself hate reading stuff on my PC. I also dislike reading paragraphs of text when playing a game (I play a game for interactivity, not reading). I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one either.
The devs shouldn't have marketed DA as the spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate, then. That is exactly the reason why people expected DA to be very much like Pillars or BG.
Just because DA:I isn't for you doesn't mean BioWare doesn't care about it and its fans.
The people behind Pillars care about their fans. EA only cares about getting more customers. That is the difference, and it is a big one.
Thanks your post is the perfect proof that a person that don't hate Inquisition is one unable to think properly ...
Tell me, how high is your hate-level? I´m getting strange readings.
Thanks your post is the perfect proof that a person that don't hate Inquisition is one unable to think properly as in understand anything other than the obvious writting Gaider and his friends make for the children (as in Inquisition).
There's nothing more complex to Pillars of Eternity than a 12 year old couldn't understand... even the subject matter. So maybe we can tone down the holier than thou attitudes?
You don't have to be smart to put numbers in your favored stat... and manage your inventory.
@Rawgrim: You're aware their fans PAID for the game to be made yes? I'm sure you can see how buying DA:I after it's been paid to be designed is different.
@Andraste_Reborn: We are, indeed... magical unicorns.
Some of the views expressed on this thread seem very silly. PoE and DAI are different games made with very different goals in mind. Their intended audiences certainly overlap but arenot the same, with (at least I expect) PoE's being a lot smaller.
I'm expecting to enjoy PoE (i haven't had the time to make a character yet) and if I'm being honest I'm enjoying playing DAI. I have quite a few reasoned criticisms of DAI but, hair and pajamas aside, most of the things I don't like about it are just that - things I don't like. There seem to be a lot of people who confuse things they don't like with things that are wrong (or things that are dumb).
Oooo.... they had me at Obsidian. Fond memories of NWN2. Looks retro, but I'm fine with that (heck, I just played The Last Door). I actually like a non-voiced main character. Makes it feel more personal. Alas, no time to play it atm. Added to Steam Wishlist.
Sorry if my opinion doesn't join yours people, it looks like it belongs in the 90s and should remain there. Too much stuff to read, barely any voice acting and slow sort of gameplay. Not my cup of tea. Like, it's cool if people like it, but to me who never been a PC player, I don't understand the hype and the nostalgia. I don't understand how people enjoy this type of game which is too slow and forces you to read for hours stuff that pop on the screen. If I wanted to read something, I'd open up a book. "Believe it or not, this is the type of game BioWare used to make," someone will tell me. Well, guess what... I'm glad they stopped.
I didn't like what I saw so far and I'm glad Bioware moved away from those kinda games.
Cinematics and voice over belong to the most important things in games for me. Don't care much for combat and thus the classics with their butt slow fights and super complicated skill system become annoying very fast.
But I like watching films more than reading books, too. Yeah, I'm one of those people.
*Disgusted noise* I am 23 and I cannot believe I am born alongside these people and must live with them for the rest of my life.
"A good RPG is boring to watch but fun to play"
This.
The game got 93/100 on metacritic with 95% positive user reviews on Steam. If it stays at this level in the coming months, then the fans will have decided it is better than DA:I.
I think that fans, especially those who can read, have already decided that Pillar of Eternity > Dragon Age Inquisition.
The best thing about Pillars of Eternity is that you can tell the developers truly cared about the thing they were creating.
Remember Bioware's whole "Made by PC gamers, for PC gamers"? That's what Pillars is, except without the irony.
The people behind Pillars care about their fans. EA only cares about getting more customers. That is the difference, and it is a big one.
Bioware's pro-PC mantra is just terrible advertising.
Anyway, I like your Avatar. Badass old Bruce Wayne is badass. Batman Beyond was one of my most favorite cartoon series growing up, right alongside Batman TAS and Justice League. Though, if the Instant Gratification generation ever saw those cartoons, they would complain about outdated animation and low definition graphics...
Um, I actually think the over fancy graphics may ruin it. There are things that are much better conveyed with carefully written words than with fancy animation. Things like character emotions, really subtle movements, other things like wind for example. These things would take too much time and resources to animate and do properly and will never have the same impact, imho.
I think that only happens when the devs think fancy graphics are all they need. Just look at "The Last of Us." beautiful graphics, great story, awesome voice actors. Their expressions, everything helped pull you into the story. I do agree that they would have had to raise much more money for that, but I don't agree that written words conveys things better than visuals. I think both are great when used properly. With Pillars, I find myself skimming the descriptions of the character's actions when it's added in the middle of the spoken dialogue. It's a bit jarring and takes me out of what they are saying when I'm focused on reading their actions.
Um, I actually think the over fancy graphics may ruin it. There are things that are much better conveyed with carefully written words than with fancy animation. Things like character emotions, really subtle movements, other things like wind for example. These things would take too much time and resources to animate and do properly and will never have the same impact, imho.
Many modern AAA gaming studios have forgotten that gameplay mechanics and words can be powerful tools in conveying the message they want to the player. I personally think words and gameplay mechanics are far better than pretty graphics and over the top animation to do the job. They are also far more cost effective.
But since many gamers these days are all about feels and looks...Well...they have to follow the market demand, don't they ?
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