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[MisterJB]

Did Gaider and Weekes confirm this?

You dare doubt the words of Xilizhra, she who is wise in the ways of SJW?
Repent!

[leaguer of one]

Greek gods were attributed as immortal, the Norse gods were also immortal outside their fated deaths at Ragnorok, I don't think the elven gods are even considered to be immortal

Sorry, but their many stories about gods, both greek and Norse, dying. Look it up.

[Steelcan]

Sorry, but their many stories about gods, both greek and Norse, dying. Look it up.

There was never a Greek God who died, or a Norse God who died outside of their ascribed fate

[ComedicSociopathy]

The Maker - Doomed the entire world to suffer five apocalyptic sieges by horrific monsters because of the actions of seven men. The Maker is terrible. 

The Creators - One of them hunted down her own people for sport while another created constant warfare to increase his own power. They also were all apparently were fine with the nobility enslaving people. Most of the Elven gods are terrible. 

The Stone - Serves as a rationale for the casteless and surface dwarves to be treated like unpersons. The Stone is terrible.

The Qun - Saarebas. Mind control. Qamek. Complete social and behavioral control. The Qun is terrible.

 

The Avvar - Mostly friendly spirits that help and guide their people without directly trying to dominate them. Compared to every other religion in Thedas the avvar faith has absolutely nothing to be shamed of. 

[leaguer of one]

If only he would stop being such a glass cannon 

It's called hit and run. Use Hook and tackle->It's beats walking and Evade->Hidden step with easy to miss.

[Broganisity]

According to the Chant, the spirits of the dead pass through the fade to The Maker, those of a less-than-savory nature are doomed to wander. Wynne, when talked to at Ostagar, also makes mention of the dead passing through the fade on death, whether that's her as a mage or her as a follower of The Chantry I cannot say.

[leaguer of one]

There was never a Greek God who died, or a Norse God who died outside of their ascribed fate

http://en.wikipedia....Death.22_of_Pan

[leaguer of one]

According to the Chant, the spirits of the dead pass through the fade to The Maker, those of a less-than-savory nature are doomed to wander. Wynne, when talked to at Ostagar, also makes mention of the dead passing through the fade on death, whether that's her as a mage or her as a follower of The Chantry I cannot say.

And Justice in da:a says that bull. So let's pin that as not being true.

[Dragonzzilla]

The Maker - Doomed the entire to suffer five apocalyptic sieges by horrific monsters because of the actions of seven men. The Maker is terrible. 

The Creators - One of them hunted down her own people for sport while another created constant warfare to increase his own power. They also all apparently were fine with the nobility enslaving people. Most of the Elven gods are terrible. 

The Stone - Serves as a rationale for the casteless and surface dwarves to be treated like unpersons. The Stone is terrible.

The Qun - Saarebas. Mind control. Qamek. Complete social and behavioral control. The Qun is terrible.

 

The Avvar - Mostly friendly spirits that help and guide their people without directly trying to dominate them. Compared to every other religion in Thedas the avvar faith has absolutely nothing to be shamed of. 

I have no problem with Avvar mythology. I find it disappointing though that they're basically not-credible. It's hard to convey what I'm trying to say. I mean, I would've preferred the Avvar drawing power from a place other than the Fade; something unknown to us. As in, "Those were angry spirits from the realm you call the Fade. Our spirits could not have attacked you; the Fade is not their realm."

[Steelcan]

http://en.wikipedia....Death.22_of_Pan

The status of Pan as a true Greek deity isn't exactly universally accepted you know

 

and its contemporary nature to the actual history makes it suspect at the very best

[MisterJB]

Yavanna plucked the soul of a Crow from the Fade and interrogated him in the comics so, that part is true, at least.

[leaguer of one]

The status of Pan as a true Greek deity isn't exactly universally accepted you know

Sorry, he's a greek god.  Stop trying. If you look it up you'll see there more died Gods..Like Zeus father, Cronus.

[Steelcan]

Yavanna plucked the soul of a Crow from the Fade and interrogated him in the comics so, that part is true, at least.

damnit Yavanna go back to your proper universe

[Steelcan]

Sorry, he's a greek god.  Stop trying. If you look it up you'll see there more died Gods..Like Zeus father, Cronus.

definitely not dead, not even close

 

he's also a Titan, not a god

[leaguer of one]

Yavanna plucked the soul of a Crow from the Fade and interrogated him in the comics so, that part is true, at least.

Or she just pulled A spirit from the fade and it Mimiced the guy.

[MisterJB]

Or she just pulled A spirit from the fade and it Mimiced the guy.

Except it knew Titus' name.

[Ashagar]

There was never a Greek God who died, or a Norse God who died outside of their ascribed fate

 

Well nobody knows why or how the god Pan died only that his death was reported...

 

As for the maker his return was foretold by the same person that foretold what Corypheus was going to do though as long as he doesn't show up in the game that will fit with neither confirming or denying his existence in game while giving hints he really does exist.

 

Though honestly in my view the Maker, the ancient Neromenian/Tevinter deity likely wasn't around for when Corypheus broke into the golden city. Looking at the lore I suspect he already left likely around the time the Tevinter started talking to the Forbidden ones if not earlier and he may or may not have had anything to do with the golden city at all but I don't buy the theory it is a lost elven city. In any case the existence of the maker obvious doesn't invalidate the existence of the elven gods or the Avvar gods and their existence doesn't invalidate the existence of the maker as none of them are described as creating the world.

[leaguer of one]

definitely not dead, not even close

 

he's also a Titan, not a god

It's aliving death and the titans are gods. 

[Steelcan]

It's aliving death and the titans are gods. 

he's not dead though, and he's not a God, he's a Titan

[Steelcan]

All y'all need the Drowned God

 

[leaguer of one]

Except it knew Titus' name.

*Points to Cole.

 

So...A spirit bounded to a persons memory has all that persons memories.

[ComedicSociopathy]

I have no problem with Avvar mythology. I find it disappointing though that they're basically not-credible. It's hard to convey what I'm trying to say. I mean, I would've preferred the Avvar drawing power from a place other than the Fade; something unknown to us. As in, "Those were angry spirits from the realm you call the Fade. Our spirits could not have attacked you; the Fade is not their realm."

 

Who cares if the Avvar gods are just spirits and not strange deities from a place other then the Fade? Well... you do of course, but that's totally not my point. The fact that avvar gods/spirits aren't arseholes (Hakkon doesn't count because he was twisted the Jaws of Hakkon into a demon against his will) is what makes makes them awesome and actually deserving of worship and respect. That's what really matters.

 

The Maker, the elven pantheon and the Stone are jerks and even if they are "real gods" then they still aren't worthy of worship, regardless of their nature. 

[leaguer of one]

he's not dead though, and he's not a God, he's a Titan

His body is alive but his mind is gone and Titans are gods.

[Steelcan]

His body is alive but his mind is gone and Titans are gods.

clearly the distinction is lost on you

[ComedicSociopathy]

All y'all need the Drowned God

 

 

 

The Lord of Light actually gives his worshipers powers, so you take your Drowned God and drown along with him.